funks 1 #1 February 14, 2005 80 Billion more going to the war. If he put 1/5 the effort into improving our own country instead of being hellbent on winning this personal war of his he might be able to earn a little more respect. Though even that is doubtful http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6968221/ What ever happened to the war being over? It has been almost a year since he made that declaration yet he is spending even more money and even more of our soldiers are dying. He is a topnotch jackass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 February 14, 2005 You obviously haven't read the budget...or even about the budget...or much about the Iraq war and why it started... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #3 February 14, 2005 Quoteor much about the Iraq war and why it started Wasn't it started because of weapons of mass distruction? Oh I'm sorry, the war was started to bring demoncracy to Iraq. That's right. The only thing that matters is for the Bush supporters to constantly change their agenda so as to make themselves look better. Who gives a shit about the thousands of innocent people who died in this war. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #4 February 14, 2005 QuoteThe only thing that matters is for the Bush supporters to constantly change their agenda so as to make themselves look better. In fairness, all politicians do that. From my understanding Bush had to cut out over 140 programs for this budget._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #5 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuote From my understanding Bush had to cut out over 140 programs for this budget. That sounds about right. So while he is spending all this money there will be thousands of americans losing their jobs as these programs are wiped out. I guess that is a little too granular for Bush to even notice. I am glad to see he is so intent on working on providing a better way of life for people in the middle east while neglecting ours in this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #6 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote From my understanding Bush had to cut out over 140 programs for this budget. That sounds about right. So while he is spending all this money there will be thousands of americans losing their jobs as these programs are wiped out. I guess that is a little too granular for Bush to even notice. I am glad to see he is so intent on working on providing a better way of life for people in the middle east while neglecting ours in this country. Many may fight this, but I think the job market is finally coming back. The last three weeks have been amazing - I've seen more job openings in that period of time than I have in the last three years._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #7 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Many may fight this, but I think the job market is finally coming back. The last three weeks have been amazing - I've seen more job openings in that period of time than I have in the last three years. The job market has come back to some degree. However, Bush is draining the govt of money and because of that thousands of contractors and people who do business with contractors are going to lose their jobs. DHS is a very small piece of the Federal government, yet this worthless agency has managed to suck all the money out of the other agencies and bureaus that actually need it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #8 February 14, 2005 Try again. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #9 February 14, 2005 You really should read up on things before posting. NEWSFLASH: Government programs don't exist to employ people. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #10 February 14, 2005 Quote NEWSFLASH: Government programs don't exist to employ people. NEWSFLASH: The existence of government programs provide employment for thousands of people. I am a government contractor. I live and breath government programs on a daily basis. Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Plain and simple. I think it is you who should read up prior to posting about something you know nothing about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #11 February 14, 2005 QuoteTry again. Try what again? How about the reason the USA invaded Iraq (at least the public was told this) was to rid Iraq of it's weapons of mass distruction. But they never found any weapons of mass distruction. Oh yes I forget, George Bush will save the entire world from itself starting with Iraq and ensure that everyone follows American culture, ideals and the good ole' right wing Christian morals. But what's GWB going to do if a religious Islamic fundamentalist government gets democratically elected in Iraq? In case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mirage63 0 #12 February 14, 2005 Quote NEWSFLASH: The existence of government programs provide employment for thousands of people. Correct, but that doesn't mean they should be there forever. Quote Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Some get cut, others get more. Elimination of contracting positions in one area normally leads to another area growing. The job of the goverment is not to be a job creator in any event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #13 February 14, 2005 Employing people is not the purpose of any government program, though some people are employed as a side effect. Deal with it. What would you do in GWB's place, spend ad infinitum? Not going to happen. Continue to fund programs that do not work? Not going to happen..er..shouldn't happen, but probably will anyway. The money isn't there to spend frivolously because SS will absorb more and more of it over the next few decades, as will other social programs. If you were familiar with goverment contracting - especially DoD - the LEAN and RTOC philosophies would be quite familiar to you and you'd realize that spend, spend, spend isn't the answer now and isn't going to be. The budget crunch is on now and will continue to be for a long, long time. Deal with it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #14 February 14, 2005 Try again. This time include your solution for 100% accurate intelligence and an accounting of where all the WMD given to him in the wake of the Iranian hostage crisis in the midst of his war with the Iranians actually went to. Looking forward to it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #15 February 14, 2005 Quoteyou'd realize that spend, spend, spend isn't the answer now and isn't going to be. The budget crunch is on now and will continue to be for a long, long time. Deal with it. Perhaps you should tell that to the guy who is asking for 80 billion dollars on top of what has already been allocated and spent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites only_at_120 0 #16 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteor much about the Iraq war and why it started Wasn't it started because of weapons of mass distruction? Oh I'm sorry, the war was started to bring demoncracy to Iraq. That's right. The only thing that matters is for the Bush supporters to constantly change their agenda so as to make themselves look better. Who gives a shit about the thousands of innocent people who died in this war. Just a question! What about the 10's or 100's of thousands of people that died at the hands of Hussien and his murdering, raping sons. Allowed to rape little children and kill at will. Sorry, I just don't get why people don't believe the Iraq people want to be free. Get over the WMD's don't think it couldn't have happened. And he was harboring terriosts in his country. Wheather or not Bush was right or wrong in your eyes, the Iraqi people wanted a free country! Now they have it. I don't understand why people think it is so easy to do, I have heard no one suggest a better plan other than for the US to run!!! I think not! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #17 February 14, 2005 I'm not going to debate the Iraq war. My point was that a certain poster was slamming another poster saying that they didn't know why the Iraq war started. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #18 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote. Just a question! What about the 10's or 100's of thousands of people that died at the hands of Hussien and his murdering, raping sons. Allowed to rape little children and kill at will. Sorry, I just don't get why people don't believe the Iraq people want to be free. Get over the WMD's don't think it couldn't have happened. And he was harboring terriosts in his country. Wheather or not Bush was right or wrong in your eyes, the Iraqi people wanted a free country! Now they have it. I don't understand why people think it is so easy to do, I have heard no one suggest a better plan other than for the US to run!!! I think not! What about those 10's or 100's of thousands of people? That is not the issue at hand. The issue at hand is that our PRESIDENT told the American public that we were launching this war to rid Iraq of any WMD. If our goal was to go in and save those people then fine, that is what he should have said our intent was. Even then, I for one would have questioned it because it is about god damn time the US stopped policing the world. Oh yeah, and you say the Iraqi people wanted a free country and now they have it. Well fucking great for them, guess what, I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #19 February 14, 2005 Oh my......... Yet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy C'mon Brits and Euros,heres your chance to chime in too......dont disappoint me *** in case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. He won simply because Kerry was an even"bigger idiot" And as far as people bemoaning the loss of American jobs,they are probably the same people buying Toyotas,Hyundais Volvos etc. and shopping at Walmart,the single largest contributor to our trade deficit to ChinaMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #20 February 14, 2005 Quoteet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy Oh I get it. Only Americans are allowed to have opinions concerning the world in which we all seem to live in. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites only_at_120 0 #21 February 14, 2005 I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Homelessness is a very big problem, but I bet you don't understand it nearly as well as I. But I'm not complaining. And I sure as hell don't expect Bush to give me a job. Hell if I wanted not to work, I could go on government assistance. What about all the people sucking up my SS, because they are just to damn lazy to work. You get out and get a friggin' job. Some people live that way because they want to, I for one did not. Most of the homeless have a choice. Let's get the foster children and the kids without family and homes into loving caring homes. Why didn't Clinton fix the homeless problem, or lets see what was that the co-president was suppose to fix, health care. Didn't happen! So to call Bush a dipshit must apply to all who have not fixed the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerryzflies 0 #22 February 14, 2005 QuoteYou obviously haven't read the budget...or even about the budget...or much about the Iraq war and why it started... You can read all about why it started in the 2003 State of the Union Address: www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html GWB's own words. Lots of stuff in there that turned out to be untrue. A little Googling will also find you White House extimates on how long it would last (6 months) and how much it would cost ($100M max).If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #23 February 14, 2005 Guess I was wrong on the job stuff: http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/14/news/economy/jobs_outlook/index.htm?cnn=yes QuoteNEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Waiting for the job market to bust out? Well, get ready for a long wait. There's little dispute that U.S. job growth has been well below normal since the last recession ended in November 2001. But rather than strengthening anytime soon, the labor market may not pick up much, or at all, at least for the foreseeable future, a growing number of labor market experts and Wall Street economists are saying. "I do think we're in a new era now in which job growth will remain sluggish for quite some time," former Labor Secretary Robert Reich said in a comment e-mailed to CNN/Money. "The times they are a-changing," added David Wyss, senior economist at Standard & Poor's, who's been arguing that the changes affecting the job market -- and the broader economy -- started after the previous recession that ended in 1991. The economy created nearly 2.2 million jobs last year, an improvement from the 2002-2003 period, when there was a net loss of jobs. But that's still well below the average of any recovery that's lasted this long since World War II, according to Anthony Chan at JPMorgan Fleming Asset Management. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot90 0 #24 February 15, 2005 QuoteI am a government contractor. I live and breath government programs on a daily basis. Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Plain and simple. Anyone who has a busines plan with only one customer is looking for trouble. With the market expanding I have more work than I could ever do. I'm all for cutting program and taxes. 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ChasingBlueSky 0 #6 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote From my understanding Bush had to cut out over 140 programs for this budget. That sounds about right. So while he is spending all this money there will be thousands of americans losing their jobs as these programs are wiped out. I guess that is a little too granular for Bush to even notice. I am glad to see he is so intent on working on providing a better way of life for people in the middle east while neglecting ours in this country. Many may fight this, but I think the job market is finally coming back. The last three weeks have been amazing - I've seen more job openings in that period of time than I have in the last three years._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #7 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Many may fight this, but I think the job market is finally coming back. The last three weeks have been amazing - I've seen more job openings in that period of time than I have in the last three years. The job market has come back to some degree. However, Bush is draining the govt of money and because of that thousands of contractors and people who do business with contractors are going to lose their jobs. DHS is a very small piece of the Federal government, yet this worthless agency has managed to suck all the money out of the other agencies and bureaus that actually need it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #8 February 14, 2005 Try again. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #9 February 14, 2005 You really should read up on things before posting. NEWSFLASH: Government programs don't exist to employ people. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #10 February 14, 2005 Quote NEWSFLASH: Government programs don't exist to employ people. NEWSFLASH: The existence of government programs provide employment for thousands of people. I am a government contractor. I live and breath government programs on a daily basis. Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Plain and simple. I think it is you who should read up prior to posting about something you know nothing about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #11 February 14, 2005 QuoteTry again. Try what again? How about the reason the USA invaded Iraq (at least the public was told this) was to rid Iraq of it's weapons of mass distruction. But they never found any weapons of mass distruction. Oh yes I forget, George Bush will save the entire world from itself starting with Iraq and ensure that everyone follows American culture, ideals and the good ole' right wing Christian morals. But what's GWB going to do if a religious Islamic fundamentalist government gets democratically elected in Iraq? In case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mirage63 0 #12 February 14, 2005 Quote NEWSFLASH: The existence of government programs provide employment for thousands of people. Correct, but that doesn't mean they should be there forever. Quote Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Some get cut, others get more. Elimination of contracting positions in one area normally leads to another area growing. The job of the goverment is not to be a job creator in any event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #13 February 14, 2005 Employing people is not the purpose of any government program, though some people are employed as a side effect. Deal with it. What would you do in GWB's place, spend ad infinitum? Not going to happen. Continue to fund programs that do not work? Not going to happen..er..shouldn't happen, but probably will anyway. The money isn't there to spend frivolously because SS will absorb more and more of it over the next few decades, as will other social programs. If you were familiar with goverment contracting - especially DoD - the LEAN and RTOC philosophies would be quite familiar to you and you'd realize that spend, spend, spend isn't the answer now and isn't going to be. The budget crunch is on now and will continue to be for a long, long time. Deal with it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #14 February 14, 2005 Try again. This time include your solution for 100% accurate intelligence and an accounting of where all the WMD given to him in the wake of the Iranian hostage crisis in the midst of his war with the Iranians actually went to. Looking forward to it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #15 February 14, 2005 Quoteyou'd realize that spend, spend, spend isn't the answer now and isn't going to be. The budget crunch is on now and will continue to be for a long, long time. Deal with it. Perhaps you should tell that to the guy who is asking for 80 billion dollars on top of what has already been allocated and spent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites only_at_120 0 #16 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteor much about the Iraq war and why it started Wasn't it started because of weapons of mass distruction? Oh I'm sorry, the war was started to bring demoncracy to Iraq. That's right. The only thing that matters is for the Bush supporters to constantly change their agenda so as to make themselves look better. Who gives a shit about the thousands of innocent people who died in this war. Just a question! What about the 10's or 100's of thousands of people that died at the hands of Hussien and his murdering, raping sons. Allowed to rape little children and kill at will. Sorry, I just don't get why people don't believe the Iraq people want to be free. Get over the WMD's don't think it couldn't have happened. And he was harboring terriosts in his country. Wheather or not Bush was right or wrong in your eyes, the Iraqi people wanted a free country! Now they have it. I don't understand why people think it is so easy to do, I have heard no one suggest a better plan other than for the US to run!!! I think not! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #17 February 14, 2005 I'm not going to debate the Iraq war. My point was that a certain poster was slamming another poster saying that they didn't know why the Iraq war started. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #18 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote. Just a question! What about the 10's or 100's of thousands of people that died at the hands of Hussien and his murdering, raping sons. Allowed to rape little children and kill at will. Sorry, I just don't get why people don't believe the Iraq people want to be free. Get over the WMD's don't think it couldn't have happened. And he was harboring terriosts in his country. Wheather or not Bush was right or wrong in your eyes, the Iraqi people wanted a free country! Now they have it. I don't understand why people think it is so easy to do, I have heard no one suggest a better plan other than for the US to run!!! I think not! What about those 10's or 100's of thousands of people? That is not the issue at hand. The issue at hand is that our PRESIDENT told the American public that we were launching this war to rid Iraq of any WMD. If our goal was to go in and save those people then fine, that is what he should have said our intent was. Even then, I for one would have questioned it because it is about god damn time the US stopped policing the world. Oh yeah, and you say the Iraqi people wanted a free country and now they have it. Well fucking great for them, guess what, I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #19 February 14, 2005 Oh my......... Yet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy C'mon Brits and Euros,heres your chance to chime in too......dont disappoint me *** in case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. He won simply because Kerry was an even"bigger idiot" And as far as people bemoaning the loss of American jobs,they are probably the same people buying Toyotas,Hyundais Volvos etc. and shopping at Walmart,the single largest contributor to our trade deficit to ChinaMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #20 February 14, 2005 Quoteet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy Oh I get it. Only Americans are allowed to have opinions concerning the world in which we all seem to live in. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites only_at_120 0 #21 February 14, 2005 I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Homelessness is a very big problem, but I bet you don't understand it nearly as well as I. But I'm not complaining. And I sure as hell don't expect Bush to give me a job. Hell if I wanted not to work, I could go on government assistance. What about all the people sucking up my SS, because they are just to damn lazy to work. You get out and get a friggin' job. Some people live that way because they want to, I for one did not. Most of the homeless have a choice. Let's get the foster children and the kids without family and homes into loving caring homes. Why didn't Clinton fix the homeless problem, or lets see what was that the co-president was suppose to fix, health care. Didn't happen! So to call Bush a dipshit must apply to all who have not fixed the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerryzflies 0 #22 February 14, 2005 QuoteYou obviously haven't read the budget...or even about the budget...or much about the Iraq war and why it started... You can read all about why it started in the 2003 State of the Union Address: www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html GWB's own words. Lots of stuff in there that turned out to be untrue. A little Googling will also find you White House extimates on how long it would last (6 months) and how much it would cost ($100M max).If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #23 February 14, 2005 Guess I was wrong on the job stuff: http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/14/news/economy/jobs_outlook/index.htm?cnn=yes QuoteNEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Waiting for the job market to bust out? Well, get ready for a long wait. There's little dispute that U.S. job growth has been well below normal since the last recession ended in November 2001. But rather than strengthening anytime soon, the labor market may not pick up much, or at all, at least for the foreseeable future, a growing number of labor market experts and Wall Street economists are saying. "I do think we're in a new era now in which job growth will remain sluggish for quite some time," former Labor Secretary Robert Reich said in a comment e-mailed to CNN/Money. "The times they are a-changing," added David Wyss, senior economist at Standard & Poor's, who's been arguing that the changes affecting the job market -- and the broader economy -- started after the previous recession that ended in 1991. The economy created nearly 2.2 million jobs last year, an improvement from the 2002-2003 period, when there was a net loss of jobs. But that's still well below the average of any recovery that's lasted this long since World War II, according to Anthony Chan at JPMorgan Fleming Asset Management. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot90 0 #24 February 15, 2005 QuoteI am a government contractor. I live and breath government programs on a daily basis. Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Plain and simple. Anyone who has a busines plan with only one customer is looking for trouble. With the market expanding I have more work than I could ever do. I'm all for cutting program and taxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #25 February 15, 2005 And your solution for 100% accurate intelligence, the location of the WMD's given Hussein in the wake of the Iranian hostage crisis whilst Iraq was engaged in a war with Iran, and erroneous cost estimation would be.....what, exactly? Looking forward to your response. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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funks 1 #7 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Many may fight this, but I think the job market is finally coming back. The last three weeks have been amazing - I've seen more job openings in that period of time than I have in the last three years. The job market has come back to some degree. However, Bush is draining the govt of money and because of that thousands of contractors and people who do business with contractors are going to lose their jobs. DHS is a very small piece of the Federal government, yet this worthless agency has managed to suck all the money out of the other agencies and bureaus that actually need it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #8 February 14, 2005 Try again. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #9 February 14, 2005 You really should read up on things before posting. NEWSFLASH: Government programs don't exist to employ people. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #10 February 14, 2005 Quote NEWSFLASH: Government programs don't exist to employ people. NEWSFLASH: The existence of government programs provide employment for thousands of people. I am a government contractor. I live and breath government programs on a daily basis. Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Plain and simple. I think it is you who should read up prior to posting about something you know nothing about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #11 February 14, 2005 QuoteTry again. Try what again? How about the reason the USA invaded Iraq (at least the public was told this) was to rid Iraq of it's weapons of mass distruction. But they never found any weapons of mass distruction. Oh yes I forget, George Bush will save the entire world from itself starting with Iraq and ensure that everyone follows American culture, ideals and the good ole' right wing Christian morals. But what's GWB going to do if a religious Islamic fundamentalist government gets democratically elected in Iraq? In case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mirage63 0 #12 February 14, 2005 Quote NEWSFLASH: The existence of government programs provide employment for thousands of people. Correct, but that doesn't mean they should be there forever. Quote Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Some get cut, others get more. Elimination of contracting positions in one area normally leads to another area growing. The job of the goverment is not to be a job creator in any event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #13 February 14, 2005 Employing people is not the purpose of any government program, though some people are employed as a side effect. Deal with it. What would you do in GWB's place, spend ad infinitum? Not going to happen. Continue to fund programs that do not work? Not going to happen..er..shouldn't happen, but probably will anyway. The money isn't there to spend frivolously because SS will absorb more and more of it over the next few decades, as will other social programs. If you were familiar with goverment contracting - especially DoD - the LEAN and RTOC philosophies would be quite familiar to you and you'd realize that spend, spend, spend isn't the answer now and isn't going to be. The budget crunch is on now and will continue to be for a long, long time. Deal with it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #14 February 14, 2005 Try again. This time include your solution for 100% accurate intelligence and an accounting of where all the WMD given to him in the wake of the Iranian hostage crisis in the midst of his war with the Iranians actually went to. Looking forward to it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #15 February 14, 2005 Quoteyou'd realize that spend, spend, spend isn't the answer now and isn't going to be. The budget crunch is on now and will continue to be for a long, long time. Deal with it. Perhaps you should tell that to the guy who is asking for 80 billion dollars on top of what has already been allocated and spent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites only_at_120 0 #16 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteor much about the Iraq war and why it started Wasn't it started because of weapons of mass distruction? Oh I'm sorry, the war was started to bring demoncracy to Iraq. That's right. The only thing that matters is for the Bush supporters to constantly change their agenda so as to make themselves look better. Who gives a shit about the thousands of innocent people who died in this war. Just a question! What about the 10's or 100's of thousands of people that died at the hands of Hussien and his murdering, raping sons. Allowed to rape little children and kill at will. Sorry, I just don't get why people don't believe the Iraq people want to be free. Get over the WMD's don't think it couldn't have happened. And he was harboring terriosts in his country. Wheather or not Bush was right or wrong in your eyes, the Iraqi people wanted a free country! Now they have it. I don't understand why people think it is so easy to do, I have heard no one suggest a better plan other than for the US to run!!! I think not! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #17 February 14, 2005 I'm not going to debate the Iraq war. My point was that a certain poster was slamming another poster saying that they didn't know why the Iraq war started. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #18 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote. Just a question! What about the 10's or 100's of thousands of people that died at the hands of Hussien and his murdering, raping sons. Allowed to rape little children and kill at will. Sorry, I just don't get why people don't believe the Iraq people want to be free. Get over the WMD's don't think it couldn't have happened. And he was harboring terriosts in his country. Wheather or not Bush was right or wrong in your eyes, the Iraqi people wanted a free country! Now they have it. I don't understand why people think it is so easy to do, I have heard no one suggest a better plan other than for the US to run!!! I think not! What about those 10's or 100's of thousands of people? That is not the issue at hand. The issue at hand is that our PRESIDENT told the American public that we were launching this war to rid Iraq of any WMD. If our goal was to go in and save those people then fine, that is what he should have said our intent was. Even then, I for one would have questioned it because it is about god damn time the US stopped policing the world. Oh yeah, and you say the Iraqi people wanted a free country and now they have it. Well fucking great for them, guess what, I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #19 February 14, 2005 Oh my......... Yet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy C'mon Brits and Euros,heres your chance to chime in too......dont disappoint me *** in case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. He won simply because Kerry was an even"bigger idiot" And as far as people bemoaning the loss of American jobs,they are probably the same people buying Toyotas,Hyundais Volvos etc. and shopping at Walmart,the single largest contributor to our trade deficit to ChinaMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #20 February 14, 2005 Quoteet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy Oh I get it. Only Americans are allowed to have opinions concerning the world in which we all seem to live in. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites only_at_120 0 #21 February 14, 2005 I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Homelessness is a very big problem, but I bet you don't understand it nearly as well as I. But I'm not complaining. And I sure as hell don't expect Bush to give me a job. Hell if I wanted not to work, I could go on government assistance. What about all the people sucking up my SS, because they are just to damn lazy to work. You get out and get a friggin' job. Some people live that way because they want to, I for one did not. Most of the homeless have a choice. Let's get the foster children and the kids without family and homes into loving caring homes. Why didn't Clinton fix the homeless problem, or lets see what was that the co-president was suppose to fix, health care. Didn't happen! So to call Bush a dipshit must apply to all who have not fixed the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerryzflies 0 #22 February 14, 2005 QuoteYou obviously haven't read the budget...or even about the budget...or much about the Iraq war and why it started... You can read all about why it started in the 2003 State of the Union Address: www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html GWB's own words. Lots of stuff in there that turned out to be untrue. A little Googling will also find you White House extimates on how long it would last (6 months) and how much it would cost ($100M max).If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #23 February 14, 2005 Guess I was wrong on the job stuff: http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/14/news/economy/jobs_outlook/index.htm?cnn=yes QuoteNEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Waiting for the job market to bust out? Well, get ready for a long wait. There's little dispute that U.S. job growth has been well below normal since the last recession ended in November 2001. But rather than strengthening anytime soon, the labor market may not pick up much, or at all, at least for the foreseeable future, a growing number of labor market experts and Wall Street economists are saying. "I do think we're in a new era now in which job growth will remain sluggish for quite some time," former Labor Secretary Robert Reich said in a comment e-mailed to CNN/Money. "The times they are a-changing," added David Wyss, senior economist at Standard & Poor's, who's been arguing that the changes affecting the job market -- and the broader economy -- started after the previous recession that ended in 1991. The economy created nearly 2.2 million jobs last year, an improvement from the 2002-2003 period, when there was a net loss of jobs. But that's still well below the average of any recovery that's lasted this long since World War II, according to Anthony Chan at JPMorgan Fleming Asset Management. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot90 0 #24 February 15, 2005 QuoteI am a government contractor. I live and breath government programs on a daily basis. Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Plain and simple. Anyone who has a busines plan with only one customer is looking for trouble. With the market expanding I have more work than I could ever do. I'm all for cutting program and taxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #25 February 15, 2005 And your solution for 100% accurate intelligence, the location of the WMD's given Hussein in the wake of the Iranian hostage crisis whilst Iraq was engaged in a war with Iran, and erroneous cost estimation would be.....what, exactly? Looking forward to your response. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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TheAnvil 0 #8 February 14, 2005 Try again. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #9 February 14, 2005 You really should read up on things before posting. NEWSFLASH: Government programs don't exist to employ people. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #10 February 14, 2005 Quote NEWSFLASH: Government programs don't exist to employ people. NEWSFLASH: The existence of government programs provide employment for thousands of people. I am a government contractor. I live and breath government programs on a daily basis. Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Plain and simple. I think it is you who should read up prior to posting about something you know nothing about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 February 14, 2005 QuoteTry again. Try what again? How about the reason the USA invaded Iraq (at least the public was told this) was to rid Iraq of it's weapons of mass distruction. But they never found any weapons of mass distruction. Oh yes I forget, George Bush will save the entire world from itself starting with Iraq and ensure that everyone follows American culture, ideals and the good ole' right wing Christian morals. But what's GWB going to do if a religious Islamic fundamentalist government gets democratically elected in Iraq? In case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage63 0 #12 February 14, 2005 Quote NEWSFLASH: The existence of government programs provide employment for thousands of people. Correct, but that doesn't mean they should be there forever. Quote Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Some get cut, others get more. Elimination of contracting positions in one area normally leads to another area growing. The job of the goverment is not to be a job creator in any event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #13 February 14, 2005 Employing people is not the purpose of any government program, though some people are employed as a side effect. Deal with it. What would you do in GWB's place, spend ad infinitum? Not going to happen. Continue to fund programs that do not work? Not going to happen..er..shouldn't happen, but probably will anyway. The money isn't there to spend frivolously because SS will absorb more and more of it over the next few decades, as will other social programs. If you were familiar with goverment contracting - especially DoD - the LEAN and RTOC philosophies would be quite familiar to you and you'd realize that spend, spend, spend isn't the answer now and isn't going to be. The budget crunch is on now and will continue to be for a long, long time. Deal with it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #14 February 14, 2005 Try again. This time include your solution for 100% accurate intelligence and an accounting of where all the WMD given to him in the wake of the Iranian hostage crisis in the midst of his war with the Iranians actually went to. Looking forward to it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #15 February 14, 2005 Quoteyou'd realize that spend, spend, spend isn't the answer now and isn't going to be. The budget crunch is on now and will continue to be for a long, long time. Deal with it. Perhaps you should tell that to the guy who is asking for 80 billion dollars on top of what has already been allocated and spent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
only_at_120 0 #16 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteor much about the Iraq war and why it started Wasn't it started because of weapons of mass distruction? Oh I'm sorry, the war was started to bring demoncracy to Iraq. That's right. The only thing that matters is for the Bush supporters to constantly change their agenda so as to make themselves look better. Who gives a shit about the thousands of innocent people who died in this war. Just a question! What about the 10's or 100's of thousands of people that died at the hands of Hussien and his murdering, raping sons. Allowed to rape little children and kill at will. Sorry, I just don't get why people don't believe the Iraq people want to be free. Get over the WMD's don't think it couldn't have happened. And he was harboring terriosts in his country. Wheather or not Bush was right or wrong in your eyes, the Iraqi people wanted a free country! Now they have it. I don't understand why people think it is so easy to do, I have heard no one suggest a better plan other than for the US to run!!! I think not! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #17 February 14, 2005 I'm not going to debate the Iraq war. My point was that a certain poster was slamming another poster saying that they didn't know why the Iraq war started. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #18 February 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote. Just a question! What about the 10's or 100's of thousands of people that died at the hands of Hussien and his murdering, raping sons. Allowed to rape little children and kill at will. Sorry, I just don't get why people don't believe the Iraq people want to be free. Get over the WMD's don't think it couldn't have happened. And he was harboring terriosts in his country. Wheather or not Bush was right or wrong in your eyes, the Iraqi people wanted a free country! Now they have it. I don't understand why people think it is so easy to do, I have heard no one suggest a better plan other than for the US to run!!! I think not! What about those 10's or 100's of thousands of people? That is not the issue at hand. The issue at hand is that our PRESIDENT told the American public that we were launching this war to rid Iraq of any WMD. If our goal was to go in and save those people then fine, that is what he should have said our intent was. Even then, I for one would have questioned it because it is about god damn time the US stopped policing the world. Oh yeah, and you say the Iraqi people wanted a free country and now they have it. Well fucking great for them, guess what, I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #19 February 14, 2005 Oh my......... Yet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy C'mon Brits and Euros,heres your chance to chime in too......dont disappoint me *** in case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. He won simply because Kerry was an even"bigger idiot" And as far as people bemoaning the loss of American jobs,they are probably the same people buying Toyotas,Hyundais Volvos etc. and shopping at Walmart,the single largest contributor to our trade deficit to ChinaMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #20 February 14, 2005 Quoteet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy Oh I get it. Only Americans are allowed to have opinions concerning the world in which we all seem to live in. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites only_at_120 0 #21 February 14, 2005 I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Homelessness is a very big problem, but I bet you don't understand it nearly as well as I. But I'm not complaining. And I sure as hell don't expect Bush to give me a job. Hell if I wanted not to work, I could go on government assistance. What about all the people sucking up my SS, because they are just to damn lazy to work. You get out and get a friggin' job. Some people live that way because they want to, I for one did not. Most of the homeless have a choice. Let's get the foster children and the kids without family and homes into loving caring homes. Why didn't Clinton fix the homeless problem, or lets see what was that the co-president was suppose to fix, health care. Didn't happen! So to call Bush a dipshit must apply to all who have not fixed the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #19 February 14, 2005 Oh my......... Yet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy C'mon Brits and Euros,heres your chance to chime in too......dont disappoint me *** in case you haven't noticed, there are millions and millions of people who think GWB is an idiot. But he was democratically elected (yes elected fair and square), so the world is stuck with this clown as leader of the free world for another four years of ... well we shall see what happens. He won simply because Kerry was an even"bigger idiot" And as far as people bemoaning the loss of American jobs,they are probably the same people buying Toyotas,Hyundais Volvos etc. and shopping at Walmart,the single largest contributor to our trade deficit to ChinaMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #20 February 14, 2005 Quoteet another Bush bashing thread and yet another Canadian with such a definitive grasp of US foreign policy Oh I get it. Only Americans are allowed to have opinions concerning the world in which we all seem to live in. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
only_at_120 0 #21 February 14, 2005 I want to cure the USA's homeless problem. You think dipshit Bush can help me out? I bet 80 billion dollars could do wonders for some of the less fortunate in this country. Homelessness is a very big problem, but I bet you don't understand it nearly as well as I. But I'm not complaining. And I sure as hell don't expect Bush to give me a job. Hell if I wanted not to work, I could go on government assistance. What about all the people sucking up my SS, because they are just to damn lazy to work. You get out and get a friggin' job. Some people live that way because they want to, I for one did not. Most of the homeless have a choice. Let's get the foster children and the kids without family and homes into loving caring homes. Why didn't Clinton fix the homeless problem, or lets see what was that the co-president was suppose to fix, health care. Didn't happen! So to call Bush a dipshit must apply to all who have not fixed the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #22 February 14, 2005 QuoteYou obviously haven't read the budget...or even about the budget...or much about the Iraq war and why it started... You can read all about why it started in the 2003 State of the Union Address: www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html GWB's own words. Lots of stuff in there that turned out to be untrue. A little Googling will also find you White House extimates on how long it would last (6 months) and how much it would cost ($100M max).If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #23 February 14, 2005 Guess I was wrong on the job stuff: http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/14/news/economy/jobs_outlook/index.htm?cnn=yes QuoteNEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Waiting for the job market to bust out? Well, get ready for a long wait. There's little dispute that U.S. job growth has been well below normal since the last recession ended in November 2001. But rather than strengthening anytime soon, the labor market may not pick up much, or at all, at least for the foreseeable future, a growing number of labor market experts and Wall Street economists are saying. "I do think we're in a new era now in which job growth will remain sluggish for quite some time," former Labor Secretary Robert Reich said in a comment e-mailed to CNN/Money. "The times they are a-changing," added David Wyss, senior economist at Standard & Poor's, who's been arguing that the changes affecting the job market -- and the broader economy -- started after the previous recession that ended in 1991. The economy created nearly 2.2 million jobs last year, an improvement from the 2002-2003 period, when there was a net loss of jobs. But that's still well below the average of any recovery that's lasted this long since World War II, according to Anthony Chan at JPMorgan Fleming Asset Management. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #24 February 15, 2005 QuoteI am a government contractor. I live and breath government programs on a daily basis. Budget cuts hurt government programs, budget cuts cause the elimination of contracting positions. Plain and simple. Anyone who has a busines plan with only one customer is looking for trouble. With the market expanding I have more work than I could ever do. I'm all for cutting program and taxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #25 February 15, 2005 And your solution for 100% accurate intelligence, the location of the WMD's given Hussein in the wake of the Iranian hostage crisis whilst Iraq was engaged in a war with Iran, and erroneous cost estimation would be.....what, exactly? Looking forward to your response. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
