ying 0 #1 February 14, 2005 Remember the incident that took place in England two or three weeks ago? One of the young princes appeared publicly in a Nazi uniform wearing a swastika on his sleeve. Everybody was indigant. Some people suggested that swastika should be delegalized. Hinduist community strongly opposed to that idea. In their culture swastika's always been a symbol of luck. It was as late as in XX century when the Nazis used it. What do you think - should swastika be delegalized anyway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 February 14, 2005 No. Don't remeber anyone in the UK whinning that it should be banned. The main problem people had here was not that he was wearing a swastika - but that he was dressed as a Nazi officer... two very different complaints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #3 February 14, 2005 The Swastika is actually found in several cultures on the planet and has been in use long before hitler and the nazi's used it. Just last week I was in an Afghan village and several of the older women had Swastika tatoos on their forehead, cheeks and chin among other tats. For many cultures it is positive symbol and has no negative conotations when used."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #4 February 14, 2005 Personally, I think that the Swastika should be legal. It wasn't the symbol which was evil. The regime which adopted it had evil facets. The Nazi Regime would have been the same under the Swastika as it would have been under a design of "Stars & Stripes" or various "Crosses & Saltires" or "Hammers & Sickles"! In short, blame the regime and the circumstances which made it attractive to people.... Not the Graphic! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #5 February 15, 2005 Quote It wasn't the symbol which was evil. The regime which adopted it had evil facets. Symbols have meaning. That's the property that makes them useful. Can't just wake up one day and have everyone agree that a swastika is nothing more than some angled lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #6 February 15, 2005 QuoteThe regime which adopted it had evil facets. You are a master of understatement. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #7 February 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe regime which adopted it had evil facets. You are a master of understatement. t Hi Tonto, I don't know if you ever saw the series: "The Nazis - A warning from history"? It was made by the BBC in 1997 & I think it's available on disc & tape etc... It makes for "interesting" viewing. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #8 February 15, 2005 Never saw it... and with the exchange rate at R11 to the pound, probably never will. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #9 February 16, 2005 QuoteThe Swastika is actually found in several cultures on the planet and has been in use long before hitler and the nazi's used it. Just last week I was in an Afghan village and several of the older women had Swastika tatoos on their forehead, cheeks and chin among other tats. For many cultures it is positive symbol and has no negative conotations when used. It was precisely because the swatstika is such an ancient and mystical symbol that the Nazis used it. Hitler and his gang were hung up on myths, astrology and all that stuff and they knew the power it can have on people's imaginations. I mean if you can put the Nazis atrocities aside for a moment, it really is a COOL looking symbol. Aside from Hindus, American Indians also used the swatstika. There are some pre 1930's National Geographics with pictures of Indians who have swatstika patterns in the beadwork on their native clothing. It's such a shame that the Nazis had to ruin the reputation of such an ancient symbol. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #10 February 16, 2005 "What do you think - should swastika be delegalized anyway?" How would you "delegalise" it? Censor books, films, archive material....I don't think so. Ban it from public display? Nah sounds a bit like 1984. Ban people from wearing it? See above. Even if it were banned, people who associate themselves with Nazism will simply adopt a new symbol, similar but not exact. see a couple of attachments, one fictional, one all too real. Then if you ban 'similar' symbols, there is a whole new can of worms, such as the Isle of Man's 3 legged symbol. As much as I despise extreme right wing racism, and even bigotry in any form, these people have as much right to express their political beliefs as the more mainstream political parties do. Besides its all a bit of a storm in a teacup as far as I am concerned, a kid made a poor choice of outfits for a fancy dress party, I bet he won't make the same mistake twice.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 February 16, 2005 So if some evil ruler comes to power and adopts the crucifix and the star of david as two of his main symbols, are you going to say Christians and Jews should be ok with a ban on their symbols in the country where the evil guy took power?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #12 February 16, 2005 And what would Ozzie do with all that jewelry.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #13 February 16, 2005 Ah, the Dread Pirate NacMac, hijacker of threads, strikes again. All hail!! witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #14 February 16, 2005 Ar Har, twas a silly thread anyways, yohoho. Me sails are full of wind this fine morn, so I thought I'd go a-plunderin'. Thar be rich pickings in some of these threads. Har.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #15 February 16, 2005 QuoteAnd what would Ozzie do with all that jewelry. Perhaps the important question is: "Would Ozzie actually notice his jewellery being carted away if it were confiscated?" I think we should discuss this in depth... Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #16 February 16, 2005 some american indian tribes used it as a sun symbol, although I believe it was reversed"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
