Hot for Teacher

[ryoder 1,590]

Several points directed at no one in particular:

1. The "law" in the US is an arbitrary set of rules defined by a bunch
of rich middle-aged/elderly white men. Please don't confuse law
with ethics or morality. Just because the law permits something,
doesn't mean it is ethically/morally right. just because the law
prohibits something doesn't mean it is ethically/morally wrong.

I just read an article yesterday that presented evidence that the
ability to control risky behaviour isn't fully developed in humans
until the age of 25. Perhaps the age of consent should be raised
to 25?

2. I saw an interview with Mary Kay Latourneau's "victim", in which he
described in great detail how he had repeatedly come on to her on
numerous occasions, until she finally agreed. It is crystal clear
in that case, who was doing the seducing.

3. I have an ex-gf whose older brother was gainfully employed, happily
married, and had two kids. Oh, and he met his wife when he was in
secondary school and she was his English teacher. Now exactly how
would his life have been better if she was in prison?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[miked10270 0]

Hi Angel,

"As the mother of boys, what is wrong with being celibate?"

Absolutely nothing. I'm just not that optimistic for my kids. At some point the celibacy WILL cease & I voiced a preference for the situation I'd prefer should it cease in their early teens. Having said that, I'd be very worried if my kids were still virgins at 18! They'd then be outwith the local common morality.

"Why does dating have to lead to sex?"

Err... Because that's where it's supposed to lead!?

Dating is in effect the second step in forming a relationship! By & large my own experience is that you don't date someone who you wouldn't want to have sex with, and dating is the intermediate step between seeing someone you're attracted to sexually and having a sexual relationship. The object of dating is to find a mutual sexual, intellectual & emotional attraction.

Further, the main difference between dating in adolescence and dating in adulthood is that the dating relationship progresses to a sexual one (or ends) that much faster.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

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Where the hell were teachers like this when I was in school??? I saw her on the news last night, her body is just as smokin as her face!!

These threads get so sanctamonious it makes me giggle.

Fact is plenty of girls have had the backs knocked out of them before it is 'legal' and most normal hetro guys have fantasized at one time or another about being 'educated' by one of their teachers.

Legal age is an interesting thing: It's funny how just because in the USA it is 16, that makes Americans find it abhorrent that this guy was 13. Yet in other countries where 13 is legal folks will wonder what all this fuss is about.

This seems to be one of the few areas where western morals are 'tighter' than those of other cultures. It's fascinating that so few non-Muslim westerners can relate to the way Muslims treat their women with regard to covering them up, and yet they express outrage that a 13 year old boy got his end away with an experienced babe.

This issue highlights that we all need to think a bit more about what is really wrong with things like this as opposed to what we've been brainwashed to believe is wrong with it.

[justinb138 0]

I understand that different countries have a different AOC. This didn't happen in those countries.

[miked10270 0]

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I understand that different countries have a different AOC. This didn't happen in those countries.

So yes. She "broke the law". Further she broke the law in THAT state. My point is that the resulting negative moral judgements made of her and her "victim" are narrow minded & unfair.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

[ryoder 1,590]

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I understand that different countries have a different AOC. This didn't happen in those countries.

And different US states have different laws on the topic. Some have statutory rape laws, and some don't. In those that don't, the crime could fall under child-molestation. Even then the law may not even clearly define an age of consent. Example:

Some years back the state of IN dropped it's statutory rape law which said a girls consent was not valid if she was under 18. A friend of mine was talking to an attorney friend who explained that with the repeal of the statutory rape law, it was no longer clear by state law what Indiana's age of consent was. The problem was the child-molestation law was the only applicable law for sex with an under-age person, but the law did not specify an age definition for "child". The attorney summed it up like this:

"18 and over is clearly legal. 15-17 is a gray area: you could be charged with child-molestation, but a good attorney could get you out. Under 15, an attorney could't do much for you."

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Ron 10]

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I understand that different countries have a different AOC. This didn't happen in those countries.

So?

In some countries you are having kids by 14...We as a society don;t think thats a good idea, but Elvis married a kid, so did several other stars.

Is it wrong to have sex with a young person? Society in some places say yes, in others they say no.

So who is wrong?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[justinb138 0]

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I understand that different countries have a different AOC. This didn't happen in those countries.

So yes. She "broke the law". Further she broke the law in THAT state. My point is that the resulting negative moral judgements made of her and her "victim" are narrow minded & unfair.

Mike.

Yes, she did break the law in that state. Why should she be treated any differently than anyone else that broke the law in that state?

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Yes, she did break the law in that state. Why should she be treated any differently than anyone else that broke the law in that state?

MY POINT EXACTLY!!!! She IS being treated differently! Not least by some of the comments in this thread.

I suppose this is a question of whether you consider a male in his 14th year a "child" (and of course a lot depends on the individual male - some are more precocious than others at that age).

I would suggest that in the interests of justice, we should know more about the adoloscent male involved BEFORE we hurl accusations like "Paedophile" and "Child-Molester" at this woman... But needless to say this will not be forthcoming.

For example, Ryoder made an excellent point earlier when the "victim in a similar case (Latourneau) admitted that he was the one who made ALL the running... So who was/is really the "victim"?

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

[ryoder 1,590]

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2. I saw an interview with Mary Kay Latourneau's "victim", in which he
described in great detail how he had repeatedly come on to her on
numerous occasions, until she finally agreed. It is crystal clear
in that case, who was doing the seducing.

And the latest news on this case:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=718&e=6&u=/ap/20050214/ap_on_re_us/teacher_sex

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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2. I saw an interview with Mary Kay Latourneau's "victim", in which he
described in great detail how he had repeatedly come on to her on
numerous occasions, until she finally agreed. It is crystal clear
in that case, who was doing the seducing.

And the latest news on this case:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=718&e=6&u=/ap/20050214/ap_on_re_us/teacher_sex

this is a different case, this teacher isnt nearly as hot as the one in my original post...though this bit of news does add quite a twist to a number of the arguments in this thread....

[ryoder 1,590]

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this is a different case, this teacher isnt nearly as hot as the one in my original post...though this bit of news does add quite a twist to a number of the arguments in this thread....

Here are a couple more photos of the one in your original post:

http://uselessjunk.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1329&mode=nested&order=0&thold=-1

http://www.uselessjunk.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1330&mode=nested&order=0&thold=-1

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[tbrown 26]

Have raging hormones made your son a smoldering inferno ?

Well if they have, then send the lad to Mary Kay Letourneau !

Mary Kay she understands teenage male libidos,

He'll earn extra credit every time she peels his Speedos...

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !