SkyDekker 1,465
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"As long as someone has money, any and all violations should be overlooked?"
Not at all, but it does happen, that's capitalism baby.
I'm a socialist who earns his money working for one of the most reviled corporations in the world, but its what I do to put food on the table. At odds with my personal beliefs, probably, but I don't have the luxury of knowing how else to provide for the bairn.
It also depends on what you class as a 'violation', for example, maintaining the death penalty will count against a country if one tries to add up their 'human rights score card'. I'm guessing most people in the US see nothing wrong with the death penalty, cos thats the way they voted recently.
"If Bin Laden was to suddenly spend millions on American goods should he be forgiven."
Why not, it worked for Ghadaffi.....remember Lockerbie, Pan Am 103?
Not at all, but it does happen, that's capitalism baby.
I'm a socialist who earns his money working for one of the most reviled corporations in the world, but its what I do to put food on the table. At odds with my personal beliefs, probably, but I don't have the luxury of knowing how else to provide for the bairn.
It also depends on what you class as a 'violation', for example, maintaining the death penalty will count against a country if one tries to add up their 'human rights score card'. I'm guessing most people in the US see nothing wrong with the death penalty, cos thats the way they voted recently.
"If Bin Laden was to suddenly spend millions on American goods should he be forgiven."
Why not, it worked for Ghadaffi.....remember Lockerbie, Pan Am 103?
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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson
He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson
well, we do business with middle eastern countries,...buying their oil etc, ....and they are much worse in some ways. At least the Chinese aren't willingly harboring terrorists & promoting violent anti-western demagoguery etc...QuoteSo somebody please tell me why it's a good idea to play overly nice with China.
(particularly with their human rights level, there constant snubbing of UN and US policy, aggressive stance on everything, and general Nazi-esque behavior)
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Kennedy 0
QuoteAt least the Chinese aren't willingly harboring terrorists & promoting violent anti-western demagoguery etc...
You need to check into your Chinese propaganda subscription, I think it's lapsed.
Also, China directly supports terrorists when it wants to. The only difference is they're smart enough not to fuck directly with US interests by way of force (they do that via other means).witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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ok, if you say so.
my point is, re. doing businees, we are not applying the criteria to certain middle eastern countries which are just as bad, and are even a more immediate threat.
my point is, re. doing businees, we are not applying the criteria to certain middle eastern countries which are just as bad, and are even a more immediate threat.
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billvon 3,119
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>So somebody please tell me why it's a good idea to play overly nice with China.
Because:
1. There are a lot of people who believe in the "the real heartland of america shops at Wal-Mart" and thus they gain political capital by supporting Wal-Mart (i.e. China)
2. They will eventually be a superpower, and it would be good to not start the next cold war 20 years early
3. They will be able to hurt us economically if they want to, and we're nothing without our economy
Because:
1. There are a lot of people who believe in the "the real heartland of america shops at Wal-Mart" and thus they gain political capital by supporting Wal-Mart (i.e. China)
2. They will eventually be a superpower, and it would be good to not start the next cold war 20 years early
3. They will be able to hurt us economically if they want to, and we're nothing without our economy
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1. Political capital is lost more easy than cash in Vegas.
2. It's be better to avoid a cold war (as it's more likely to go hot with the Chinese than it was with the Russians) but we both know that the Chinese don't co-exist; they tolerate or they dominate.
3. What do you think they could do to us that either we couldn't do to them or that they wouldn't do to themselves in hurting us?
2. It's be better to avoid a cold war (as it's more likely to go hot with the Chinese than it was with the Russians) but we both know that the Chinese don't co-exist; they tolerate or they dominate.
3. What do you think they could do to us that either we couldn't do to them or that they wouldn't do to themselves in hurting us?
witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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China, the US already has a trade deficit of $162bn with them.
Thats about a quarter of your total trade deficit.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4254369.stm
Whether you like it or not, you are already doing business with them, large style!
Thats about a quarter of your total trade deficit.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4254369.stm
Whether you like it or not, you are already doing business with them, large style!
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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson
He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson
because they have, or will soon have the ability to cripple the economy, both in the US as well as Canada.
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