flyangel2 2 #1 February 7, 2005 How is it possible to live next to these people and not know what is going on in their house? I think of what these children went through and it makes me sick to my stomach. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/04/family.torture/ Death is too easy a punishment for these parents. I say that they get locked up and treated the same way that they treated those children. Let them suffer for the rest of their lives.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #2 February 7, 2005 How anyone could lay eyes on one of those kids and not know there was a problem is inconceivable, and I don't understand how any person's need to not get involved could reach this far. Once I was involved in a child abuse case that was not *this* bad, but was pretty close. I was very impressed with how another person who got suspicious went to the house and DEMANDED to see the child, and then went into the house and took him. THAT's a good neighbor! linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #3 February 7, 2005 QuoteHow is it possible to live next to these people and not know what is going on in their house? I think of what these children went through and it makes me sick to my stomach. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/04/family.torture/ Death is too easy a punishment for these parents. I say that they get locked up and treated the same way that they treated those children. Let them suffer for the rest of their lives. A 59 lb 16 year old boy, and twin 14 year old boys who weigh 36 and 38 lbs, the three of whom are forced to share the master bedroom closet with two sisters...and the "parents" are driving a Lexus SUV when not in their 1996 Prevost Marathon ($250k+?). Absolutely disgusting! Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #4 February 7, 2005 QuoteHow anyone could lay eyes on one of those kids and not know there was a problem is inconceivable, and I don't understand how any person's need to not get involved could reach this far. QuoteThe Dollars are accused of forcing the five children to sleep in a closet in the master bedroom with a "wind chime affixed to the door so that the Dollars would know if they tried to get out of the closet," Tierney said. ... In addition, they are accused of using a cattle prod or some sort of stun gun to shock the children, securing them to spots in the house with chains, striking their feet with hammers and pulling out the children's toenails with pliers. ... it also appeared that the Dollars tried to keep the children inside the home as much as possible and that each one was home-schooled. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #5 February 7, 2005 What's interesting is that this couple who was not feeding the kids was picked up in their Lexis and had a motor home. They were obviously pretty well off, financially. It is shocking to me what people will do. These are the types of people whom I do not think will last long in prison. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmanpilot 0 #6 February 7, 2005 So I'm guessing they have plenty of money for a good defense attorney. I can't imagine what kind of lawyer would defend this couple in court. It would have to be a completely empty human being._________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #7 February 7, 2005 It's so hard to read something like this. I just can't comprehend it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #8 February 7, 2005 So . . . Florida won't allow gays to adopt, but fucking soul-less assholes like this can? Makes perfect sense to me. That's so sad. Those two should be beaten every day for the rest of their lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #9 February 7, 2005 I cannot see how people could adopt these kids just to treat them like that. I just hope these kids will be given to caring people who will love them. It's sad to see how inhumane people can be.if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #10 February 7, 2005 The news story doesn't report what the parents did for a living, or if they received any kind of assistants from the government. Makes me wonder where they were getting their money to buy a motor home and a nice car. Were the Dollars adopting children to get more government assistants? Were the children all adopted at the same time, when did the abuse start, and once a child is adopted, isn’t there some kind of follow up that the agency needs to do? How long and how often does a follow up happen? Edit to fix spellingMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 February 7, 2005 QuoteMakes me wonder where they were getting their money to buy a motor home and a nice car. Where the Dollars adopting children to get more government assistants? You know, I had not even considered that aspect. It is possible that they were receiving a stipend to care for the children, and used this stipend for their own purposes. These are some sick individuals. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #12 February 7, 2005 I recall reading that the woman has had a history of being abused herself, which is often the factor blamed for such behavior (not an excuse) These poor kids need expert help and supervision - not only are they severely unhealthy in the physical sense, they're probably emotionally and mentally malnourished as well - that will take MUCH longer to heal than their little bodies. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #13 February 7, 2005 QuoteI recall reading that the woman has had a history of being abused herself, which is often the factor blamed for such behavior (not an excuse) I agree, it's not an excuse. I'm so sick and tired of hearing people use that for an excuse to get away with what they do to hurt children. Damn it, pull your head out of your ass and do some thing to make sure you don't hurt some one. Maybe if we start treating them the way they treated other people, they might think twice about what they are about to do. I am so sick to my stomach thinking about how long those children suffered. I hope the Dollars suffer for the rest of their lives here on earth and if there is an after life, they suffer there as well.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #14 February 7, 2005 Absolutely not an excuse! However, that kind of trauma can leave a person VERY warped with little to no sense of their own value as a human being, which is how they "can do such a thing" to another, especially a weaker one. I'm not concerned about the Dollars now - let God and the justice system deal with them. Violent inmates tend to respect/fear other inmates who've killed adults for pleasure or revenge, but child abusers are scum in prison too. They'll get what's coming. I'm worried about the kids' well-being. Growing up "normal" and unwarped after something this traumatic and horrible is a rare thing. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aggie04 0 #15 February 8, 2005 Well in houston today on the news they were talking about the hearing for a woman and her husband whose 6 month old was sexually assualted and beaten from head to toe also having a severed tongue. WHY in the hell does a 6 month old deserve this?? What sick jackass can do that to a child? There is no punishment i can even think of that would be enough for these two people to endure. It is disgusting. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3028050 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A life without a cause is a life without an effect Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #16 February 8, 2005 Those two are souless monsters. The part that still makes me sick is knowing that there are others out there doing the same thing that we haven't caught yet. Thank goodness for people who do stick their noses into other peoples' business, and bring these kind of monsters to justice. This is another one for all of us to learn from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites