jjiimmyyt 0 #1 January 31, 2005 Haven't seen anything so far so thought I'd dive in... Stir the pot a little... My own thoughts, he's more guilty than a fox in a hen house, however i feel that he should have the chance of a fair trial. That is not going to happen due to the media storm, the obviously vindictive DA riding glory and that no one ever feels sympathy for the (mega) rich guy. Whatever way, going to be interesting to watch. Thoughts? "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #2 January 31, 2005 I doubt he ever touched a kid in a wrong way... Something tells me he simply regressed back into childhood and kids are whom he is comfortable with. I watched his interviews and watched his mannerisms closely. I didn't notice any psychological "physical" signs of lying. Who knows... I could be wrong.. My hunch is the authorities are just on a witch-hunt... Leave Michael Jackson alone and start prosecuting the Catholic Church I say. All MJ does is occasionally watch a dirty movie with a kid. The Catholic Priests are making the dirty movies with the kids... That should assist you in stirring the water Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 January 31, 2005 QuoteI doubt he ever touched a kid in a wrong way... Something tells me he simply regressed back into childhood and kids are whom he is comfortable with. I watched his interviews and watched his mannerisms closely. I would agree with you; however, those being not his children I think there are appropiate behaviors that were not used nor even attempted at being used. Is it a full on legal issue...well, I don't actually think so, I think its more of he's one really confused dude from having a fucked up childhood and WAY too much money and fame. I believe it could very well be a witch hunt; however, letting him go without an investigation to show innocence or prove guilt, if there is a suspicion would do wonders for showing a complete double standard of the legal system.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #4 January 31, 2005 If any solid proof comes out that he showed those kids porn or had them drinking, even if he didn't touch them, that is enough to put him away. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougiefresh 0 #5 January 31, 2005 The fact that these accusations keep coming up indicates to me that he's probably hiding something. He paid off one accuser a few years ago, probably thought he could get away with it again, and got busted. The trial is going to be a farce, whether they convict him or not. Justice gets skewed by media and money. There's no way that a juror can walk into the courtroom at this point without an opinion, having been exposed to it for so long. Just as a personal aside, I can't look at Michael without feeling nauseous. What he's done to his face is just gross.Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 January 31, 2005 Dude, I think the guy did it. Is he guilty? I actually don't know. "Guilty" implies that the defendant knows the difference between right and wrong. I don't think that Jackson knows the difference. Anyone remember the 60 Minute interview with Ed Bradley? The one where Bradley kept setting him up to say that sleeping in the same bed with little boys not related to you is not quite right? Look up the transcript. It's shocking. [url] MJ refused - REFUSED - to state that the conduct was wrong, or even that he was setting himself up for bad things by continuing to do it. There are other reasons why I think he did it. First, why on earth would he accuse the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's office of dislocating his shoulder? He was photographed picking his arm up above the level he claimed he could pick it up. Why would he outright LIE like that? Last time I heard that type of sociopathic fibbing was when I listened to Amber Frey's recordings of Scott Petersen. Finally, MJ seems to be completely unwilling to accept, or admit, that his behavior is even strange. Remember the documentary where he said he took his baby, still covered with afterbirth, out of the hospital? I mean, he stated proudly how he took the baby and bolted after the cord was cut. He doesn't find this wrong, nor does he seem to appreciate the risks involved with that. Then, those of us who find the behavior weird are "ignorant." He has no idea how weird he is. I mean, absolutely no concept. Why do I think he did it? 1) He refuses to find anything conceivably wrong with sharing a bed with kids (no real concept of right and wrong); 2) he sociopathically lied about injkuries received at the hands of the SBSD; and 3) he cannot acknowledge how weird he is. Would a guy like that know that it is wrong to give a kid liquor regardless of your reasons for doing so? Would a guy like that realize that "loving a child" has limits to acceptability? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 January 31, 2005 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/010605jackson.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #8 January 31, 2005 Hi DF Paying a out of court settlement is sometimes easier than going through a trial and being found not guilty. To LR does MJ know he's guilty? His employee's aren't going to tell him he's stepping over the line. Just because he's rich doesn't mean he's above the law. A new defense tactic: MJ was to rich to know what he may have been doing again was wrong. His wealth and being a music idol made him do it because he thought he could get away with it again. MJ deserves a jury trial just like everyone else.In the end MJ's lawyers will get paid for defending him, guilty or not. Job security & big $$$. If MJ is found guilty what next? Prison, house arrest . What do you do with the dude once you got him R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #9 January 31, 2005 I do not think he did it.....but I do think he has inappropiate friendships with children. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #10 January 31, 2005 As a mother I ask myself why parents would allow their children to be alone with Michael Jackson knowing his past history.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #11 January 31, 2005 As a father, I feel the same the way as you. Something is not right here, so damn what is and what is not legal, I have to go with my gut feelings. MJ may not be guilty, and the parents may not be entirely innocent, perhaps using the kids as a trap of sort. I don't think we will ever get the truth on this one. Either way Mar, I don't think I'd be entirely comfortable if the Mininac was hanging out at Neverland unsupervised.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #12 January 31, 2005 QuoteAs a mother I ask myself why parents would allow their children to be alone with Michael Jackson knowing his past history. Exactly! You have to wonder why they allowed their children to be there. Obviously, because of the 'star' quality of MJ, and who knows probably the $$ factor. My child would never have been allowed there, knowing of the allegations, true or not. J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Skygirl 0 #13 January 31, 2005 Whether he is guilty or not... I would never ever let my children go or stay at the house of a person that I suspect to abuse children in any way.!!!!!!!! Especially when that person in under suspicion of doing so. of course it could be the old man or woman living in your street, but from the moment there are rumours, I would not take nor allow my children to go to those people as it is my task as a parent to protect my children!!!!!!!! So... I don't know if he did it or not.. however I would keep my children far away from him. But afterwards sueing a person because he touched your children ... why sending your children to Michael as he is suspected of doing so? Isn't the welfare of your children more important than sueing one for money? Don't misunderstand me please, I don't say he did or did not touch the children, but I would protect my children from certain characters. Sometimes I think Michael lives in a dream world and that he is harmless, but other times I think he is mentally ill...------------------------------------------------- No dive, like skydive... wanna bet on it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #14 January 31, 2005 QuoteYou have to wonder why they allowed their children to be there. Most of the appeal lies in Michael's ameteur magic skills. His best trick is the one where he pretends to pull off a kid's nose, and then show it to them. Michael is really good at that one. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
