bodypilot90 0 #1 January 29, 2005 QuoteTrue Colors Friday, January 28, 2005 By Neil Cavuto • Bias Is Alive and Well So the United Nations is all hot and bothered over leaflets. That's right — leaflets. Not the insurgents' leaflets — the ones that talk of murdering anyone who dare goes out and votes. Not a word about them. No, they are upset at "our" leaflets. The ones that simply remind Iraqis they have the chance to vote. They've plenty of words about them. The U.N. claims that we're taking sides. So, let me get this straight: Celebrating democracy is bad. Promising to butcher those who practice it is good? Only a body of soulless bodies like the U.N. could ignore the sacrifices for freedom and all but endorse those doing everything in their power to squash freedom. Why doesn't the United Nations just put out a sign that says, "You go, butchers!" At least that'd be more honest than the sneaky, sniveling, backstabbing way these disingenuous bastards are acting now. Never mind the fact that the U.N. stood by when another Iraqi butcher had his way with his people. They're just as happy to do the same as new butchers try to have their way with the same people. All I ask of the U.N. is to show your true colors. Admit it's not the Iraqi people you care for at all. It's not their home you want to protect. It's your own sorry asses on the thoroughly wasted piece of Manhattan real estate that you call yours. I know your greatest hurdle is securing dinner reservations at Lutece — figures, French. Just understand that the people whose fates you blithely ignore, want to secure something a tad more meaningful. So look in the mirror. Then get out of "their" face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #2 January 29, 2005 Ride'em cowboy. There hasn't been any trolling on the UN or the French for at least 8 hours. Damn I love you people. You never cease to entertain me...BTW: who's Neil Cavuto? Which grade? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #3 January 29, 2005 I made sure to post this just for you frenchy. Din't want you to feel unloved Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #4 January 29, 2005 QuoteI made sure to post this just for you frenchy. Din't want you to feel unloved Thanks man, I kindda knew that! Without you, my presence on this forum would have no meaning whatsoever. Thanks for keeping it interesting... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #5 January 29, 2005 I would have to see what the leaflets said, exactly, before forming an opinion on them or the UN's actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #6 January 29, 2005 well you may get your wish, I working on getting information on that. However what ever it said it really does not matter since the UN should be for freedom should and it really is not. Understanding that the election is about the Iraqis setting up their own gov't the UN should be doing everything in their power to help out. Instead they ran out of there like a frenchman from a fire fight (added for my man frenchy) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #7 January 29, 2005 QuoteWhich grade? Hahahahaha ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflydrew 0 #8 January 29, 2005 Quote...he UN should be doing everything in their power to help out. Instead they ran out of there like a frenchman from a fire fight OK, first off, that is such a stupid post (the original one that started this thread)... Second off, the UN evacuated it's people from Iraq after the Head of the mission, and others, were killed when insurgents blew up the UN Offices in Iraq. But here's the kicker... they didn't run away from anything... They moved their base of operations into Jordan where they could be safe and still operate efectively. Oh yeah, let's not forget that everytime you write about the "UN", your writing about the "US" because the "US" plays a major part of the "UN". PS-Here's a quote from Kofi Annan from the 28th of Jan: "“Elections are the best way to determine any country’s future; please exercise your democratic rights on Sunday,” he said in a videotaped pre-election message to the people of Iraq. “Whatever your feelings about how the country reached this point, this election offers an opportunity to move away from violence and uncertainty toward peace and representative government." “To those who seek to disrupt the democratic process, let me say that there can never be justification for murder and intimidation of voters, candidates and election workers. Don’t deny Iraqis who choose to vote their right to do so in freedom and safety,” he added. The elections are a crucial first step toward a new constitution and a free and stable Iraq, he said." Didn't read anything about leaflets there! PPS- Just so there's no question as to what exactly the UN's role in Iraq is suppoed to be, here's that info: "RESOLUTION 1546 ON IRAQ (8 June 2004) Paragraph concerning the mandate of UNAMI 7. Decides that in implementing, as circumstances permit, their mandate to assist the Iraqi people and government, the Special Representative of the Secretary-General and the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI), as requested by the Government of Iraq, shall: (a) play a leading role to: (i) assist in the convening, during the month of July 2004, of a national conference to select a Consultative Council; (ii) advise and support the Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq, as well as the Interim Government of Iraq and the Transitional National Assembly, on the process for holding elections; (iii) promote national dialogue and consensus-building on the drafting of a national constitution by the people of Iraq; (b) and also: (i) advise the Government of Iraq in the development of effective civil and social services; (ii) contribute to the coordination and delivery of reconstruction, development, and humanitarian assistance; (iii) promote the protection of human rights, national reconciliation, and judicial and legal reform in order to strengthen the rule of law in Iraq; and (iv) advise and assist the Government of Iraq on initial planning for the eventual conduct of a comprehensive census;" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #9 January 29, 2005 QuoteInstead they ran out of there like a frenchman from a fire fight (added for my man frenchy) Spoken like a true veteran of the almighty Grenada and Panama campaigns, my dear friend! Your thought is much appreciated "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #11 January 29, 2005 QuoteI would have to see what the leaflets said, exactly, before forming an opinion on them or the UN's actions.*** The leaflets don't take sides, they are unbiased, i've seen them. they don't tell people who to vote for or that they have to vote, they simply encourage people to take a hand in determining their countries future. they are just like all those commercials that were playing before out elections telling everyone to get out and vote. if you guys want i'll get one and have my terps translate it and post what it says exactly in here.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #12 January 29, 2005 QuoteFuck the UN... agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #13 January 29, 2005 QuoteFuck the UN... Is the UN that hot? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #14 January 29, 2005 QuoteQuoteFuck the UN... Is the UN that hot? Surely not. But that's all, certain folks are able to comment. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #15 January 30, 2005 please do, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boudy 0 #16 January 30, 2005 If anyone cares to research the context of Cavuto's rant, the following two links provide background information: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39753-2005Jan26.html from this article: "UNITED NATIONS, Jan. 26 -- The United Nations' top elections official, Carina Perelli, sharply criticized U.S. military forces in Iraq Wednesday for distributing material urging Iraqis to vote in the country's elections Sunday. Perelli and other U.N. officials are concerned that such U.S. military involvement is compromising efforts to convince the Iraqi public that Iraqis are directing the elections." The issue was NOT - as Cavuto contends - the message conveyed in the leaflets. The UN itself encouraged all Iraqi's to vote and criticized those threatening violence. The official worried that the image of US soldiers "getting out the vote" would bolster the propaganda of the anti-American/anti-government forces in Iraq - and encourage the perception promoted by insurgents and others that the US was pulling the strings in the Iraq election. http://washingtontimes.com/world/20050127-103013-7621r.htm The UN decided to retract the complaint the next day - the day before Cavuto's release of his vitriolic commentary. The UN did not want to contribute to devisiveness concerning the electoral process. (think a star at a premiere 24/7 news service couldn't get the latest buzz before commenting on this story?) From Jan 28 Wash Times: >>But yesterday, U.N. spokeswoman Marie Okabe said that Miss Perelli "misspoke," and said "she did not intend to criticize the military's profile." "We all know it is a sensitive time before the election. We don't want anything we say to be misinterpreted, distract from the main focus and become a divisive issue," Miss Okabe said. "Everyone agrees that we want the Iraqi elections to proceed."<< On top of that - our top military guys agreed that our soldiers should not have the burden of distributing these pamphlets in the first place. >>Informed Wednesday evening of Miss Perelli's comments, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld and Army Gen. John Abizaid, chief of the U.S. Central Command, seemed mystified that troops would be involved in get-out-the-vote activities. "Millions of Iraqis are going to go vote because they want to vote, and American soldiers do not have the mission to get the vote out," Gen. Abizaid told reporters.<< Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #17 January 30, 2005 Stop trying to shed the truth on events, will you? Next thing I'll know, you'll claim that the UN (a sub-division of the French Republic) is actually not plotting to overthrow the US government... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #18 January 30, 2005 crazy frenchy with his crazy thoughts of world domination!!!History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites