markd_nscr986 0 #1 January 26, 2005 A very sad stat. in the news yesterday,over 43,000 dogs and cats euthanized in Colorado's animal shelters last yearThats close to 120 every single day!People,if you have dogs or cats,please take the time to spay/neuter them! If you know anyone that has not taken care of this with their animals,please remind them of the thousands of unwanted animals at the shelters that die everyday!There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of carnage! End of Rant........Thanks for ListeningMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #2 January 26, 2005 Quote... over 43,000 dogs and cats euthanized in Colorado's animal shelters last year ...Quote That's an awful lot of kung pao chicken, my friend, I hope for humanity's sake that it didn't go to waste. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #3 January 26, 2005 QuoteA very sad stat. in the news yesterday,over 43,000 dogs and cats euthanized in Colorado's animal shelters last yearThats close to 120 every single day!People,if you have dogs or cats,please take the time to spay/neuter them! If you know anyone that has not taken care of this with their animals,please remind them of the thousands of unwanted animals at the shelters that die everyday!There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of carnage! End of Rant........Thanks for Listening Remember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #4 January 26, 2005 Honestly, sometimes I have more compassion for animals than humans. Those poor creatures! PLEASE EVERYONE!!! If you own or will own a pet, please spay or neuter them! Then love them with all your hearts, and get them checked up regularly. If you can't take care of an animal, then DON'T GET ONE! That's a good start to limiting the number of animals that have to be put down because they're being "let go" by their owners and breeding amuck. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #5 January 26, 2005 QuoteRemember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Especially in consideration of the fact that euthanasia is usually kinder than leaving them there. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #6 January 26, 2005 Another very disturbed statistic is "sigma". He's constantly abused and misunderstood, so I can see why. Mmmm - Kung Pao Chicken ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #7 January 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteRemember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Especially in consideration of the fact that euthanasia is usually kinder than leaving them there. Blues, Dave Oh usually? Well that's OK then. Dude you leave a dog tied in the yard in some places these people will come, take it away "to a good home" & kill it within a week. (no it's never happened to me before you ask). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #8 January 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteRemember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Especially in consideration of the fact that euthanasia is usually kinder than leaving them there. Blues, Dave Oh usually? Well that's OK then. Well, it is in those cases. QuoteDude you leave a dog tied in the yard in some places these people will come, take it away "to a good home" & kill it within a week. (no it's never happened to me before you ask). Well, if the dog was tied in the yard in sub-zero temperatures without shelter, food, or water, it'd be justified. Honestly, I've never been exposed to any seizures that weren't justified. That's not to say they don't happen, they very well may. However in my experience there are people who provide proper care for their animals and keep them, people who don't provide proper care for their animals but keep them anyhow, and people who don't provide proper care for their animals and have them subsequently seized. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #9 January 27, 2005 Yep they happen. Best to take off and nuke the pet from orbit. That's the only way to be sure. For the good of the animal! P.S. I favor honesty, instead of pretending the animal is going to a shelter the animal control person should have to administer a lethal injection there and then. That way they get to focus on the consequences of their actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #10 January 27, 2005 sometimes, though, the animals do get adopted. Also, many cities now have no-kill shelters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #11 January 27, 2005 Quote P.S. I favor honesty, instead of pretending the animal is going to a shelter the animal control person should have to administer a lethal injection there and then. That way they get to focus on the consequences of their actions. What would be the benefit of turning a possible, future consequence into a definite, immediate consequence? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #12 January 27, 2005 Quotesometimes, though, the animals do get adopted. Also, many cities now have no-kill shelters. There are plenty of animals for adoption. Save one kill another, it's just juggling numbers. If they kill the animal they'll focus on the consequences of removing it and consider if the circumstances are actually worth killing the animal for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #13 January 27, 2005 QuoteQuote P.S. I favor honesty, instead of pretending the animal is going to a shelter the animal control person should have to administer a lethal injection there and then. That way they get to focus on the consequences of their actions. What would be the benefit of turning a possible, future consequence into a definite, immediate consequence? Blues, Dave The benefit is forcing these "animal lovers" to consider whether the circumstances actually merit killing the animal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #14 January 27, 2005 Speaking as someone who has 5 adopted cats (all rescue...) currently living with me, and as someone who has had the wonderful and difficult opportunity to rescue and place 18 cats last year alone, please spay and neuter your pets. Please don't place them between the door and the jamb and repeatedly slam the door onto your pet. Please don't cut off their tail. Do not abuse them and then turn them loose to fend for themselves. Please. I know Fido the Dog is gorgeous, and her offspring will be too. I know Princess the Cat is brilliant and that her offspring will be, too. I also know that if you spay and neuter your pets, they will have longer, healthier lives, and if you really want a second (3rd, 4th...) pet, you can get one from the shelter. And if you're hurting for money, there are low cost spay/neuter clinics in almost every large city, and most middle sized cities. Ask your vet. Ask the cat lady. Ask at the dog park. Just ask around. But please, speuter your animals. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #15 January 27, 2005 QuoteI know Fido the Dog is gorgeous, and her offspring will be too. I know Princess the Cat is brilliant and that her offspring will be, too. Ditto. I have 2 purebred dogs, both female. The boxer does not conform very well to the breed standard (she's too small, too long in the snout, and too skittish). The bulldog on the other hand does, and then some. Knowing the breed standard and having gone to a few dog shows, I'm certain she'd have placed well every time and won most smaller shows, if she weren't "altered". We got a friend deal on her for $1500, and the rest of her litter went for considerably more. The breeding requests are frequent, and constantly met with the same answer. "No, can't do it." Both of my dogs are spayed, as is our cat, and even our rabbit (though accidental pregnancy of the rabbit seems awfully unlikely). The female cockatiel isn't, but only because the male was and there's not exactly a cockatiel overpopulation problem. Bottom line - If you can't afford to spay/neuter your pet, you can't afford to have the pet. Blues, Dave P.S. What the fuck are people thinking when they intentionally allow mutts to breed? I mean, I could maybe understand a service-dog breeder trying to come up with some lab/shepherd mix that's smart and good for any kind of service training, but backyard Betty/Bob? Does anyone actually believe that a pug/scotty breeding with a pinscher/chihuahua might make some "cool" pups? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #16 January 27, 2005 A voice of sensibility and reasonThanks MicheleMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #17 January 27, 2005 You know, it's not just "mutts" who end up in shelters. In the last 8 years I've pulled no less than 5 Border Collies out of shelters, socialised & re-homed them! THere are A LOT of folk out there who'll buy a dog because of the image the breed represents; My dog (Rottweiler / Doberman / Pit Bull) is "tough, therefore I'm tough; My dog (Collie) is smart, therefore I'm smart; Etc... Throw in fashion, film appearances, & a few unscrupulous breeders and you end up with a glut of poorly bred pedigree dogs put into the hand of folk who can't handle them! So it's not only mutts that end up in shelters - but unless you REALLY know a breed and have a lot of patience, a suitably sized mutt is your best bet from a shelter. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peregrinerose 0 #18 January 27, 2005 QuoteSo it's not only mutts that end up in shelters - but unless you REALLY know a breed and have a lot of patience, a suitably sized mutt is your best bet from a shelter. And even if you really know the breed and have the patience, you still can't know how that individual dog will behave. I adopted my rottie/lab when he was almost 3 years old with no housetraining or any commands and a whirlwind tornado dog. He's now the favorite pet in the house. We also have a cattle dog, 3 cats, 2 guinea pigs, and 2 rabbits, all humane league. The pigs and the female rabbit are not neutered, but the rest are. Both the pigs (Bacon and Porkchop) are boys anyway. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #19 January 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteA very sad stat. in the news yesterday,over 43,000 dogs and cats euthanized in Colorado's animal shelters last yearThats close to 120 every single day!People,if you have dogs or cats,please take the time to spay/neuter them! If you know anyone that has not taken care of this with their animals,please remind them of the thousands of unwanted animals at the shelters that die everyday!There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of carnage! End of Rant........Thanks for Listening Remember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Yes, living in feces is better than being given the opportunity to be adopted, or even euthanized... (sarcasm) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,131 #20 January 28, 2005 > A very sad stat. in the news yesterday,over 43,000 dogs and >cats euthanized in Colorado's animal shelters last year . . . Y'know, that's sad. Around 7 million unwanted animals are euthanized in US shelters every year. But around the world, 10 million human infants die every year, primarily in Africa, of disease and malnutrition. I can't help but think they should be our priority - even if they're not as close to home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #21 January 28, 2005 QuoteY'know, that's sad. Around 7 million unwanted animals are euthanized in US shelters every year. 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dorbie 0 #3 January 26, 2005 QuoteA very sad stat. in the news yesterday,over 43,000 dogs and cats euthanized in Colorado's animal shelters last yearThats close to 120 every single day!People,if you have dogs or cats,please take the time to spay/neuter them! If you know anyone that has not taken care of this with their animals,please remind them of the thousands of unwanted animals at the shelters that die everyday!There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of carnage! End of Rant........Thanks for Listening Remember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #4 January 26, 2005 Honestly, sometimes I have more compassion for animals than humans. Those poor creatures! PLEASE EVERYONE!!! If you own or will own a pet, please spay or neuter them! Then love them with all your hearts, and get them checked up regularly. If you can't take care of an animal, then DON'T GET ONE! That's a good start to limiting the number of animals that have to be put down because they're being "let go" by their owners and breeding amuck. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #5 January 26, 2005 QuoteRemember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Especially in consideration of the fact that euthanasia is usually kinder than leaving them there. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 January 26, 2005 Another very disturbed statistic is "sigma". He's constantly abused and misunderstood, so I can see why. Mmmm - Kung Pao Chicken ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #7 January 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteRemember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Especially in consideration of the fact that euthanasia is usually kinder than leaving them there. Blues, Dave Oh usually? Well that's OK then. Dude you leave a dog tied in the yard in some places these people will come, take it away "to a good home" & kill it within a week. (no it's never happened to me before you ask). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #8 January 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteRemember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Especially in consideration of the fact that euthanasia is usually kinder than leaving them there. Blues, Dave Oh usually? Well that's OK then. Well, it is in those cases. QuoteDude you leave a dog tied in the yard in some places these people will come, take it away "to a good home" & kill it within a week. (no it's never happened to me before you ask). Well, if the dog was tied in the yard in sub-zero temperatures without shelter, food, or water, it'd be justified. Honestly, I've never been exposed to any seizures that weren't justified. That's not to say they don't happen, they very well may. However in my experience there are people who provide proper care for their animals and keep them, people who don't provide proper care for their animals but keep them anyhow, and people who don't provide proper care for their animals and have them subsequently seized. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #9 January 27, 2005 Yep they happen. Best to take off and nuke the pet from orbit. That's the only way to be sure. For the good of the animal! P.S. I favor honesty, instead of pretending the animal is going to a shelter the animal control person should have to administer a lethal injection there and then. That way they get to focus on the consequences of their actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #10 January 27, 2005 sometimes, though, the animals do get adopted. Also, many cities now have no-kill shelters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #11 January 27, 2005 Quote P.S. I favor honesty, instead of pretending the animal is going to a shelter the animal control person should have to administer a lethal injection there and then. That way they get to focus on the consequences of their actions. What would be the benefit of turning a possible, future consequence into a definite, immediate consequence? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #12 January 27, 2005 Quotesometimes, though, the animals do get adopted. Also, many cities now have no-kill shelters. There are plenty of animals for adoption. Save one kill another, it's just juggling numbers. If they kill the animal they'll focus on the consequences of removing it and consider if the circumstances are actually worth killing the animal for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #13 January 27, 2005 QuoteQuote P.S. I favor honesty, instead of pretending the animal is going to a shelter the animal control person should have to administer a lethal injection there and then. That way they get to focus on the consequences of their actions. What would be the benefit of turning a possible, future consequence into a definite, immediate consequence? Blues, Dave The benefit is forcing these "animal lovers" to consider whether the circumstances actually merit killing the animal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #14 January 27, 2005 Speaking as someone who has 5 adopted cats (all rescue...) currently living with me, and as someone who has had the wonderful and difficult opportunity to rescue and place 18 cats last year alone, please spay and neuter your pets. Please don't place them between the door and the jamb and repeatedly slam the door onto your pet. Please don't cut off their tail. Do not abuse them and then turn them loose to fend for themselves. Please. I know Fido the Dog is gorgeous, and her offspring will be too. I know Princess the Cat is brilliant and that her offspring will be, too. I also know that if you spay and neuter your pets, they will have longer, healthier lives, and if you really want a second (3rd, 4th...) pet, you can get one from the shelter. And if you're hurting for money, there are low cost spay/neuter clinics in almost every large city, and most middle sized cities. Ask your vet. Ask the cat lady. Ask at the dog park. Just ask around. But please, speuter your animals. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #15 January 27, 2005 QuoteI know Fido the Dog is gorgeous, and her offspring will be too. I know Princess the Cat is brilliant and that her offspring will be, too. Ditto. I have 2 purebred dogs, both female. The boxer does not conform very well to the breed standard (she's too small, too long in the snout, and too skittish). The bulldog on the other hand does, and then some. Knowing the breed standard and having gone to a few dog shows, I'm certain she'd have placed well every time and won most smaller shows, if she weren't "altered". We got a friend deal on her for $1500, and the rest of her litter went for considerably more. The breeding requests are frequent, and constantly met with the same answer. "No, can't do it." Both of my dogs are spayed, as is our cat, and even our rabbit (though accidental pregnancy of the rabbit seems awfully unlikely). The female cockatiel isn't, but only because the male was and there's not exactly a cockatiel overpopulation problem. Bottom line - If you can't afford to spay/neuter your pet, you can't afford to have the pet. Blues, Dave P.S. What the fuck are people thinking when they intentionally allow mutts to breed? I mean, I could maybe understand a service-dog breeder trying to come up with some lab/shepherd mix that's smart and good for any kind of service training, but backyard Betty/Bob? Does anyone actually believe that a pug/scotty breeding with a pinscher/chihuahua might make some "cool" pups? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #16 January 27, 2005 A voice of sensibility and reasonThanks MicheleMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #17 January 27, 2005 You know, it's not just "mutts" who end up in shelters. In the last 8 years I've pulled no less than 5 Border Collies out of shelters, socialised & re-homed them! THere are A LOT of folk out there who'll buy a dog because of the image the breed represents; My dog (Rottweiler / Doberman / Pit Bull) is "tough, therefore I'm tough; My dog (Collie) is smart, therefore I'm smart; Etc... Throw in fashion, film appearances, & a few unscrupulous breeders and you end up with a glut of poorly bred pedigree dogs put into the hand of folk who can't handle them! So it's not only mutts that end up in shelters - but unless you REALLY know a breed and have a lot of patience, a suitably sized mutt is your best bet from a shelter. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #18 January 27, 2005 QuoteSo it's not only mutts that end up in shelters - but unless you REALLY know a breed and have a lot of patience, a suitably sized mutt is your best bet from a shelter. And even if you really know the breed and have the patience, you still can't know how that individual dog will behave. I adopted my rottie/lab when he was almost 3 years old with no housetraining or any commands and a whirlwind tornado dog. He's now the favorite pet in the house. We also have a cattle dog, 3 cats, 2 guinea pigs, and 2 rabbits, all humane league. The pigs and the female rabbit are not neutered, but the rest are. Both the pigs (Bacon and Porkchop) are boys anyway. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #19 January 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteA very sad stat. in the news yesterday,over 43,000 dogs and cats euthanized in Colorado's animal shelters last yearThats close to 120 every single day!People,if you have dogs or cats,please take the time to spay/neuter them! If you know anyone that has not taken care of this with their animals,please remind them of the thousands of unwanted animals at the shelters that die everyday!There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of carnage! End of Rant........Thanks for Listening Remember this when you see these people remove animals from people's care for the animal's own good. Yes, living in feces is better than being given the opportunity to be adopted, or even euthanized... (sarcasm) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #20 January 28, 2005 > A very sad stat. in the news yesterday,over 43,000 dogs and >cats euthanized in Colorado's animal shelters last year . . . Y'know, that's sad. Around 7 million unwanted animals are euthanized in US shelters every year. But around the world, 10 million human infants die every year, primarily in Africa, of disease and malnutrition. I can't help but think they should be our priority - even if they're not as close to home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #21 January 28, 2005 QuoteY'know, that's sad. Around 7 million unwanted animals are euthanized in US shelters every year. But around the world, 10 million human infants die every year, primarily in Africa, of disease and malnutrition. I can't help but think they should be our priority - even if they're not as close to home. That's true... But all it would take to reduce the number of animals being euthanized would be for people to spay/neuter their pets, or to not get pets if they don't have the time for them. Oh wait, that's not as easy as it sounds - expecting irresponsible people to suddenly become responsible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
