base428 1 #1 January 24, 2005 Did you see James Dobson on Fox News Friday night regarding Spongebob supposedly being gay? His Focus on the Family NEVER made any reference to Spongebob being gay. Focus on the family was upset over the Teacher's Guides that were provided along with the video, saying the guides promote the acceptance of homosexuality among youth. Don't believe everything you read or hear folks. This is another example of media spin. Story Here ---------------------------------------- FULL STORY, FROM THE LINK ABOVE ---------------------------------------- Why is Dr. Dobson objecting to a video featuring characters such as SpongeBob? Question Why is Dr. Dobson objecting to the distribution of a video featuring such popular children's characters as SpongeBob SquarePants? Answer From the outset, let's be clear that this issue is not about objections to any specific cartoon characters. Instead, Dr. Dobson is concerned that these popular animated personalities are being exploited by an organization that's determined to promote the acceptance of homosexuality among our nation's youth. We applaud the ideal of championing to children the value and dignity of every human life as well as respect for our differences. What we vehemently object to is using these beloved characters to help advance an agenda that's beyond the comprehension of 6 and 7 year-old children, not to mention morally offensive to millions of moms and dads. The video in question is slated to be distributed to 61,000 public and private elementary schools throughout the United States. Where it is shown, schoolchildren will be left with the impression that their teachers are offering their endorsement of the values and agenda associated with the video's sponsor. While some of the goals associated with this organization are noble in nature, their inclusion of the reference to "sexual identity" within their "tolerance pledge" is not only unnecessary, but it crosses a moral line. We believe that it is the privilege of parents to decide how, when and where it is appropriate to introduce their children to these types of sensitive issues. The distribution of this video trumps the authority of mothers and fathers and leaves it in the hands of strangers whose standards may very well be different than the children they teach. By calling it to light this video and its affiliation with this larger organization, we are attempting to do for parents what their busy lives often prevent them from doing themselves--connecting the dots.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78RATS 0 #2 January 24, 2005 Spends all his time with a starfish. Of course he's gay. Rat for Life - Fly till I die When them stupid ass bitches ask why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #3 January 24, 2005 Actually, a coworker who watches the cartoon told me he's asexual. Hopefully, Porky Pig won't be the next target (wears a shirt with no pants!)(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #4 January 24, 2005 >While some of the goals associated with this organization are noble in > nature, their inclusion of the reference to "sexual identity" within their >"tolerance pledge" is not only unnecessary, but it crosses a moral line. Damn right it does! Tolerance? The next thing you know, teachers will be telling kids that racism or beating up other kids is wrong, when everyone knows that a parent is the only person qualified to teach such questionable morals to their children. Schools should be the morals-free environment that they used to be! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #5 January 24, 2005 QuoteHopefully, Porky Pig won't be the next target (wears a shirt with no pants!) Hey, that sounds exactly like all the guys out at Hippie Hollow. I always wondered why they wore shirts with no pants, but now I'm wondering if it's because they watched too many Porky Pig cartoons when they were kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #6 January 24, 2005 Quote>While some of the goals associated with this organization are noble in > nature, their inclusion of the reference to "sexual identity" within their >"tolerance pledge" is not only unnecessary, but it crosses a moral line. Damn right it does! Tolerance? The next thing you know, teachers will be telling kids that racism or beating up other kids is wrong, when everyone knows that a parent is the only person qualified to teach such questionable morals to their children. Schools should be the morals-free environment that they used to be! I am sorry but I call bullshit here. These two scenarios don't relate at all. Sex education isn't usually taught to kids that young. Parents should be the only ones even bringing up such discussions at that age, not cartoons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #7 January 24, 2005 > Sex education isn't usually taught to kids that young. "We should tolerate people of any color, religion, sexual identity, size or shape" isn't sex education. >Parents should be the only ones even bringing up such discussions at that age, not cartoons. The cartoons in question are not bringing up such discussions. It was just some loony right-winger who was watching such cartoons looking for something to be pissed off about. It's like someone watching Bugs Bunny and concluding that it promotes homosexuality and transgendering (since Bugs dressed up like a woman sometimes) or watching Road Runner cartoons and deciding they promote domestic abuse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #8 January 24, 2005 Quote> Sex education isn't usually taught to kids that young. "We should tolerate people of any color, religion, sexual identity, size or shape" isn't sex education. >Parents should be the only ones even bringing up such discussions at that age, not cartoons. The cartoons in question are not bringing up such discussions. It was just some loony right-winger who was watching such cartoons looking for something to be pissed off about. It's like someone watching Bugs Bunny and concluding that it promotes homosexuality and transgendering (since Bugs dressed up like a woman sometimes) or watching Road Runner cartoons and deciding they promote domestic abuse. Yes tolerance is something that should be taught, but it isn't necessary to bring up anything of a sexual nature to teach tolerance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #9 January 24, 2005 Did you even READ the article I posted? It's NOT the video that was in question, but the teacher's guide that accompanied it. It has nothing to do with cartoon characters......or racism, or witch burning, or interracial marriage, or women's rights!!!!!!! QuoteIt was just some loony right-winger who was watching such cartoons looking for something to be pissed off about.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #10 January 24, 2005 QuoteDid you even READ the article I posted? It's NOT the video that was in question, but the teacher's guide that accompanied it. It has nothing to do with cartoon characters......or racism, or witch burning, or interracial marriage, or women's rights!!!!!!! Don't confuse the debate by bringing hard facts to the table. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #11 January 24, 2005 > Did you even READ the article I posted? I wasn't answering you. I was answering Beowulf, who said "Parents should be the only ones even bringing up such discussions at that age, not cartoons." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #12 January 24, 2005 Yes tolerance is something that should be taught, but it isn't necessary to bring up anything of a sexual nature to teach tolerance. For people who live in the world, things of a sexual nature are everwhere you look. There's not some magical age at which human sexuality becomes all-the-sudden apparent. If the issue of sexual identity were to come up with my 7 y/o it would probably be in the context of whether a girl's a girly girl or a tom boy.....or if a boy is a sissy. That's what sexual identity means to him. He has a firm grasp on what he sees as sex-determined roles for kids his age. I'm not going to bring up the issue of sexual orientation with him because at his age it would be without purpose. HOWEVER he's aware that some people are gay while others are straight, and he has been for some time. For people to put blinders on about that and pretend that until we as parents "teach" our children that they won't be exposed is pretty short-sighted. To say that teaching people to have respect for all other people is promoting a gay agenda is ridiculous in my mind.... linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #13 January 24, 2005 QuoteActually, a coworker who watches the cartoon told me he's asexual. Hopefully, Porky Pig won't be the next target (wears a shirt with no pants!) You do know that Bugs is a cross dresser - right? As is Wylie E. Coyote? I think I have even seen Taz and Sam in drag a few times - Better ban tham as well.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #14 January 25, 2005 And Donald Duck doesn't wear any pants.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #15 January 25, 2005 QuoteAnd Donald Duck doesn't wear any pants. That sicko! - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #16 January 25, 2005 >Donald Duck doesn't wear any pants. Don't even get me started on Beauty and the Seven Dwarfs. Or Goldilocks in bed with bears! Do we need to be teaching our children about bestiality? We need more prosecution of these sickos! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #17 January 31, 2005 QuoteSpends all his time with a starfish. Of course he's gay. And who better would know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #18 January 31, 2005 QuoteDon't even get me started on Beauty and the Seven Dwarfs. Or Goldilocks in bed with bears! Do we need to be teaching our children about bestiality? We need more prosecution of these sickos! Here's quite an amusing review of our favourite childhood stories that one of my friends wrote. http://www.monkeysuppers.co.uk/onceuponatime.htm ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakyrat 1 #19 January 31, 2005 It was reported that Dr. Dobson got the organization that produced this video and guide mixed up with a pro-gay organization with a similar name. Probably he did a website search and stumble on the wrong website and drew his conclusions. Even Nile Rogers who produced the video called him on this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #20 January 31, 2005 It was Snow White with the 7 dwarfs. It was Beauty with the Beast...next thing you know, people will be saying Disney promotes beastiality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
