funks 1 #1 January 20, 2005 according to all his supporters then why does he seem to me the most ridiculed? I don't recall Clinton or Reagan taking the beating that Bush seems to be subjected to. From the airwaves to general conversations it seems like a very large portion of the public hates this guy, more publicly so then Clinton haters back when he was in office.....Why is that? Is it because the majority of the public truly believes he is a moron? Ron - No need to say it is because the democrats are sore losers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #2 January 20, 2005 If Bush is such a good presidentQuote He is not. and yes he is a moron.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #3 January 20, 2005 Quoteaccording to all his supporters then why does he seem to me the most ridiculed? I don't recall Clinton or Reagan taking the beating that Bush seems to be subjected to. From the airwaves to general conversations it seems like a very large portion of the public hates this guy, more publicly so then Clinton haters back when he was in office.....Why is that? Is it because the majority of the public truly believes he is a moron? Ron - No need to say it is because the democrats are sore losers For the same reason the Democrats ridicule religious people... the "Party of Tolerance" aint very tolerant of things that don't fit their mold....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,550 #4 January 20, 2005 I think it's more a matter of who you hang out with. I certainly seem to remember quite a bit of ridicule of Reagan (he's not all there; he's too old; he's a puppet run by his staff), and, well, let's not forget the Clinton-bashing that went on. It didn't make fun of his intelligence because, well, it wasn't Clinton's intelligence that was questioned. Nixon's nickname was "Tricky Dick." Gerald Ford was the subject of skits on "Saturday Night Live" to highlight his supposed clumsiness. Jimmy Carter took a beating for his rabbit beating and for his "lust in my heart" comments. You just have to be old enough to remember them. And no, it's not just Democrats. It's just that people are more likely to ignore what they agree with because, well, it's right and reasonable. So they don't hear it as much. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #5 January 20, 2005 Look how many results show up on this search. Even his own people cant stand him http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=republicans+against+bush&btnG=Google+Search Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tcnelson 1 #6 January 20, 2005 people that bash bush are either: 1) bitter about the fact that the democratic "team" is doing worse than the bad news bears lately because most of the public doesn't agree with their ideals or; 2)they aren't knowledgeable/wise enough to know that what bush has done in office has been absolutely necessary to prevent larger problems down the road. i'm not refering to those that disagree with the details of how things are done; i am refering to those that don't understand why he has done what he has done."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #7 January 20, 2005 Quote For the same reason the Democrats ridicule religious people... Quite the generalization there. When you make a statement like that, you almost always will be wrong. I have it on good authority that there are quite a few religious Democrates and they come from just about all religions.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot90 0 #8 January 20, 2005 Quoteuite the generalization there. When you make a statement like that, you almost always will be wrong. I have it on good authority that there are quite a few religious Democrates and they come from just about all religions. was clinton one of those? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #9 January 20, 2005 What are you talking about? Reagan was damn near a hated president until AFTER he got out of office and people started to understand the changes he made and the results they produced. Clinton was far from being unbashed. In American history there has been no president that hasn't been publically bashed and bashed hard. Lincoln was hated by many many people. G. Washington was called King George due to his actions. Every single president. Some of the best presidents in history were damn near hated at the time. Everyone tends to consider Lincoln a good president, right? Well, go actually research his presidency and see the things he actually did. The very shady business practices, the civil rights violations and all. I guess my point is, if you actually knew a bit about history, then you wouldn't have made this post in the first place.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #10 January 20, 2005 Quoteaccording to all his supporters then why does he seem to me the most ridiculed? Perhaps because the mass media is heavily slanted towards the democrats, and since Bush is the opposition to their own political beliefs, they report all the negative stuff they can dream up. Just look at the Dan Blather fiasco. He actually used false documents to try to "throw" a presidential election. He's in bed with the democrats. Clinton got an easy ride from the press for the most part, but even his fellow media liberals couldn't resist the Lewinsky story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #11 January 20, 2005 Then how do you explain the 2.4 million results on google for the search phrase "Republicans against bush"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #12 January 20, 2005 Quote Then how do you explain the 2.4 million results on google for the search phrase "Republicans against bush"? Hahaha...since only intelligent persons with factual sources can post a website, right? Go read my previous post and please respond.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #13 January 20, 2005 Your google "experiment" has no control. Here's a potential control, but it's about 5 years out of date, so I wouldn't expect it to be too accurate. edit to add: according to the "google hits" methodology, There are also an awful lot of Christians who don't like Jesus. More than 2 million results! That Jesus character isn't even liked by his own followers.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #14 January 20, 2005 QuoteThen how do you explain the 2.4 million results on google for the search phrase "Republicans against bush"? I don't know, maybe the same way I explain the 1.8million results on google for the search phrase "Democrats against Clinton". http://www.google.com/search?&q=democrats%20against%20clinton&sourceid=firefox - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites funks 1 #15 January 20, 2005 QuoteWhat are you talking about? QuoteReagan was damn near a hated president until AFTER he got out of office and people started to understand the changes he made and the results they produced. Your opinion, much like mine in my original post. QuoteClinton was far from being unbashed. Once again, your opinion. But you have to admit Bush has taken a harsher public beating then clinton. Sure clintons whole hide the cigar scandal created uproar, but it also allowed the public to connect with his personal side and realize the POTUS is a human being. Dont think he lost to many points for that considering the general public could have cared less about that and more so about his ability to lead the country QuoteIn American history there has been no president that hasn't been publically bashed and bashed hard. Agree. But, I do believe Bush is taking a harder beating then anybody in recent history. QuoteLincoln was hated by many many people. G. Washington was called King George due to his actions. So? QuoteEveryone tends to consider Lincoln a good president, right? Well, go actually research his presidency and see the things he actually did. The very shady business practices, the civil rights violations and all. Very shady business practices? Yeah, bush never did anything of the such. QuoteI guess my point is, if you actually knew a bit about history, then you wouldn't have made this post in the first place. You really didnt quote that much history here. 98% of your comments above are personal opinions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #16 January 20, 2005 QuoteYou really didnt quote that much history here. 98% of your comments above are personal opinions. Hahaha... Ok. If I get bored and have a few hours to kill I'll post all the refrences I've read to come to those conclusions...don't hold your breath though. Oh, btw, history is actually mostly opinion. EDIT: As a side note, find a president in recent history (lets say the past 50 years) that maintained a 60% approval rating.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #17 January 20, 2005 Perhaps because your long term memory is shot? Do a search on the other presidents, they all get bashed during term. Wendy pointed out SNL bashing Ford. I like the SNL bashing because they bash all the presidents regardless of party. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #18 January 20, 2005 Quote I have it on good authority that there are quite a few religious Democrates and they come from just about all religions. *** was clinton one of those? As a matter of fact . . . yes. That's not to say he was perfect. Many religious people aren't perfect . . . some would say that's kind of the point.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #19 January 20, 2005 QuoteMany religious people aren't perfect . . . some would say that's kind of the point. That would also be why I'm not fond of religious people. Spiritual people I have a lot of respect for, but "religious" people aren't perfect, no one is perfect, but a religious person will tell you when you're wrong according to their religion. See where I'm going with this?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #20 January 20, 2005 Quote Once again, your opinion. But you have to admit Bush has taken a harsher public beating then clinton. Sure clintons whole hide the cigar scandal created uproar, but it also allowed the public to connect with his personal side and realize the POTUS is a human being. Dont think he lost to many points for that considering the general public could have cared less about that and more so about his ability to lead the country Uh, where were you in the 90s? The attacks started from the first month in 1993. He lost two potential AGs to the process in the first of the now common nanny scandals. Then he briefly tried sending Hillary to sell national health care (big flop), tried to open up the military to gays and fell back to the lame compromise. Then there was "Travelgate" where Hillary had some staffers fired. And that was just year 1, before Whitewater, the Foster suicide and then the impeachment. You wouldn't have heard of Rush Limbaugh if it were for the existence of the Clintons to slam. As the only popular Democrat since Kennedy, of course a lot of people forgave his offenses, just as the current GOP will ignore a lot of Shrub's misgivings. But the other side certainly won't stay quiet on either of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #21 January 20, 2005 QuoteThen how do you explain the 2.4 million results on google for the search phrase "Republicans against bush"? If that's your idea of scientific proof, then your argument is sorely lacking. By the way, Google also has 2,080,000 hits for "Democrats Against Kerry". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #22 January 21, 2005 I think alot of people that voted for Bush think that he isn't a good President, just that he would suck less than Kerry. Personally, I don't like or have confidence in either of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflight 0 #23 January 21, 2005 understanding of what bush is doing leads to, well, disapproval. unless of course you are one of the beneficiaries of his presidency. that would mean that you are a large corporate donor who is now getting returns on your investment. if not, your are probably some peasant that's being porked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropoutdave 0 #24 January 21, 2005 QuoteBut you have to admit Bush has taken a harsher public beating then clinton. Bush has taken more of global public beating than most presidents of recent years. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #25 January 21, 2005 Every POTUS gets ridiculed. GW Bush gets it often. Of course, not so much that he's an idiot, anymore. There is plenty of othr stuff they ridicule him about now. Clinton? Need I indicate the meteoric rise of right-wing radio when he was in office? He was a true gem. Bush, Sr.? "Wimp" and "Vomit" and plenty of things to ridicule him about. Reagan? Was called the "Amiable Dunce." People still mention him in jest. Carter? Peanut head, killer rabbits, etc. And Amy Carter caught more heat than Chelsea. Ford? The uncoordinated fool. Nixon - "Tricky Dick" LBJ - ask any hippie about him. Ridicule and hatred. JFK - Not much with him. The guy was teflon. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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mnealtx 0 #3 January 20, 2005 Quoteaccording to all his supporters then why does he seem to me the most ridiculed? I don't recall Clinton or Reagan taking the beating that Bush seems to be subjected to. From the airwaves to general conversations it seems like a very large portion of the public hates this guy, more publicly so then Clinton haters back when he was in office.....Why is that? Is it because the majority of the public truly believes he is a moron? Ron - No need to say it is because the democrats are sore losers For the same reason the Democrats ridicule religious people... the "Party of Tolerance" aint very tolerant of things that don't fit their mold....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,550 #4 January 20, 2005 I think it's more a matter of who you hang out with. I certainly seem to remember quite a bit of ridicule of Reagan (he's not all there; he's too old; he's a puppet run by his staff), and, well, let's not forget the Clinton-bashing that went on. It didn't make fun of his intelligence because, well, it wasn't Clinton's intelligence that was questioned. Nixon's nickname was "Tricky Dick." Gerald Ford was the subject of skits on "Saturday Night Live" to highlight his supposed clumsiness. Jimmy Carter took a beating for his rabbit beating and for his "lust in my heart" comments. You just have to be old enough to remember them. And no, it's not just Democrats. It's just that people are more likely to ignore what they agree with because, well, it's right and reasonable. So they don't hear it as much. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #5 January 20, 2005 Look how many results show up on this search. Even his own people cant stand him http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=republicans+against+bush&btnG=Google+Search Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #6 January 20, 2005 people that bash bush are either: 1) bitter about the fact that the democratic "team" is doing worse than the bad news bears lately because most of the public doesn't agree with their ideals or; 2)they aren't knowledgeable/wise enough to know that what bush has done in office has been absolutely necessary to prevent larger problems down the road. i'm not refering to those that disagree with the details of how things are done; i am refering to those that don't understand why he has done what he has done."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 January 20, 2005 Quote For the same reason the Democrats ridicule religious people... Quite the generalization there. When you make a statement like that, you almost always will be wrong. I have it on good authority that there are quite a few religious Democrates and they come from just about all religions.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #8 January 20, 2005 Quoteuite the generalization there. When you make a statement like that, you almost always will be wrong. I have it on good authority that there are quite a few religious Democrates and they come from just about all religions. was clinton one of those? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 January 20, 2005 What are you talking about? Reagan was damn near a hated president until AFTER he got out of office and people started to understand the changes he made and the results they produced. Clinton was far from being unbashed. In American history there has been no president that hasn't been publically bashed and bashed hard. Lincoln was hated by many many people. G. Washington was called King George due to his actions. Every single president. Some of the best presidents in history were damn near hated at the time. Everyone tends to consider Lincoln a good president, right? Well, go actually research his presidency and see the things he actually did. The very shady business practices, the civil rights violations and all. I guess my point is, if you actually knew a bit about history, then you wouldn't have made this post in the first place.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #10 January 20, 2005 Quoteaccording to all his supporters then why does he seem to me the most ridiculed? Perhaps because the mass media is heavily slanted towards the democrats, and since Bush is the opposition to their own political beliefs, they report all the negative stuff they can dream up. Just look at the Dan Blather fiasco. He actually used false documents to try to "throw" a presidential election. He's in bed with the democrats. Clinton got an easy ride from the press for the most part, but even his fellow media liberals couldn't resist the Lewinsky story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #11 January 20, 2005 Then how do you explain the 2.4 million results on google for the search phrase "Republicans against bush"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 January 20, 2005 Quote Then how do you explain the 2.4 million results on google for the search phrase "Republicans against bush"? Hahaha...since only intelligent persons with factual sources can post a website, right? Go read my previous post and please respond.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #13 January 20, 2005 Your google "experiment" has no control. Here's a potential control, but it's about 5 years out of date, so I wouldn't expect it to be too accurate. edit to add: according to the "google hits" methodology, There are also an awful lot of Christians who don't like Jesus. More than 2 million results! That Jesus character isn't even liked by his own followers.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #14 January 20, 2005 QuoteThen how do you explain the 2.4 million results on google for the search phrase "Republicans against bush"? I don't know, maybe the same way I explain the 1.8million results on google for the search phrase "Democrats against Clinton". http://www.google.com/search?&q=democrats%20against%20clinton&sourceid=firefox - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #15 January 20, 2005 QuoteWhat are you talking about? QuoteReagan was damn near a hated president until AFTER he got out of office and people started to understand the changes he made and the results they produced. Your opinion, much like mine in my original post. QuoteClinton was far from being unbashed. Once again, your opinion. But you have to admit Bush has taken a harsher public beating then clinton. Sure clintons whole hide the cigar scandal created uproar, but it also allowed the public to connect with his personal side and realize the POTUS is a human being. Dont think he lost to many points for that considering the general public could have cared less about that and more so about his ability to lead the country QuoteIn American history there has been no president that hasn't been publically bashed and bashed hard. Agree. But, I do believe Bush is taking a harder beating then anybody in recent history. QuoteLincoln was hated by many many people. G. Washington was called King George due to his actions. So? QuoteEveryone tends to consider Lincoln a good president, right? Well, go actually research his presidency and see the things he actually did. The very shady business practices, the civil rights violations and all. Very shady business practices? Yeah, bush never did anything of the such. QuoteI guess my point is, if you actually knew a bit about history, then you wouldn't have made this post in the first place. You really didnt quote that much history here. 98% of your comments above are personal opinions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 January 20, 2005 QuoteYou really didnt quote that much history here. 98% of your comments above are personal opinions. Hahaha... Ok. If I get bored and have a few hours to kill I'll post all the refrences I've read to come to those conclusions...don't hold your breath though. Oh, btw, history is actually mostly opinion. EDIT: As a side note, find a president in recent history (lets say the past 50 years) that maintained a 60% approval rating.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #17 January 20, 2005 Perhaps because your long term memory is shot? Do a search on the other presidents, they all get bashed during term. Wendy pointed out SNL bashing Ford. I like the SNL bashing because they bash all the presidents regardless of party. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 January 20, 2005 Quote I have it on good authority that there are quite a few religious Democrates and they come from just about all religions. *** was clinton one of those? As a matter of fact . . . yes. That's not to say he was perfect. Many religious people aren't perfect . . . some would say that's kind of the point.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #19 January 20, 2005 QuoteMany religious people aren't perfect . . . some would say that's kind of the point. That would also be why I'm not fond of religious people. Spiritual people I have a lot of respect for, but "religious" people aren't perfect, no one is perfect, but a religious person will tell you when you're wrong according to their religion. See where I'm going with this?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #20 January 20, 2005 Quote Once again, your opinion. But you have to admit Bush has taken a harsher public beating then clinton. Sure clintons whole hide the cigar scandal created uproar, but it also allowed the public to connect with his personal side and realize the POTUS is a human being. Dont think he lost to many points for that considering the general public could have cared less about that and more so about his ability to lead the country Uh, where were you in the 90s? The attacks started from the first month in 1993. He lost two potential AGs to the process in the first of the now common nanny scandals. Then he briefly tried sending Hillary to sell national health care (big flop), tried to open up the military to gays and fell back to the lame compromise. Then there was "Travelgate" where Hillary had some staffers fired. And that was just year 1, before Whitewater, the Foster suicide and then the impeachment. You wouldn't have heard of Rush Limbaugh if it were for the existence of the Clintons to slam. As the only popular Democrat since Kennedy, of course a lot of people forgave his offenses, just as the current GOP will ignore a lot of Shrub's misgivings. But the other side certainly won't stay quiet on either of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #21 January 20, 2005 QuoteThen how do you explain the 2.4 million results on google for the search phrase "Republicans against bush"? If that's your idea of scientific proof, then your argument is sorely lacking. By the way, Google also has 2,080,000 hits for "Democrats Against Kerry". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #22 January 21, 2005 I think alot of people that voted for Bush think that he isn't a good President, just that he would suck less than Kerry. Personally, I don't like or have confidence in either of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflight 0 #23 January 21, 2005 understanding of what bush is doing leads to, well, disapproval. unless of course you are one of the beneficiaries of his presidency. that would mean that you are a large corporate donor who is now getting returns on your investment. if not, your are probably some peasant that's being porked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #24 January 21, 2005 QuoteBut you have to admit Bush has taken a harsher public beating then clinton. Bush has taken more of global public beating than most presidents of recent years. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #25 January 21, 2005 Every POTUS gets ridiculed. GW Bush gets it often. Of course, not so much that he's an idiot, anymore. There is plenty of othr stuff they ridicule him about now. Clinton? Need I indicate the meteoric rise of right-wing radio when he was in office? He was a true gem. Bush, Sr.? "Wimp" and "Vomit" and plenty of things to ridicule him about. Reagan? Was called the "Amiable Dunce." People still mention him in jest. Carter? Peanut head, killer rabbits, etc. And Amy Carter caught more heat than Chelsea. Ford? The uncoordinated fool. Nixon - "Tricky Dick" LBJ - ask any hippie about him. Ridicule and hatred. JFK - Not much with him. The guy was teflon. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
