What a disgrace

[juanesky 0]

One leftist? Only one? That is not really hard, since I will be out tonight celebrating 4 more years in Rhode Island!

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[TheAnvil 0]

Two gets you bonus points!

Vinny the Anvil
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[juanesky 0]

Anvil, hello?Rhode Island=New England=blue state? Do you know how many people I will pe pissing off? It is going to be crowded at the place I will be!

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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One leftist? Only one? That is not really hard, since I will be out tonight celebrating 4 more years in Rhode Island!

Ya but isn't that like cutting off your nose to spite your face? ... Since the cost of pissing off a liberal is larger deficits and more dead kids in Iraq...

[TheAnvil 0]

Er...you're making this difficult...how about 1 weekend at Camp David for every 10?

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
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[juanesky 0]

bwawawa....lost count man. You should have seen the faces of the people at the restaurant!.....

No problems, if we com accross, we'll do some tequila shots. Blue skies man.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Her target constituency was thinking "At last someone finally asking the tough questions."

Not all of them.

I am disheartened that a Senator of mine would take an opportunity to berate someone and impugn their integrity in a public arena, when they knew that they were not in the right.

I am all for tough questions. This wasn't "tough questioning," it was harranguing, ranting and spewing vitriol for the sake of the camera. That's grandstanding.

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Michele

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While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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Her target constituency was thinking "At last someone finally asking the tough questions."

Not all of them.

I am disheartened that a Senator of mine would take an opportunity to berate someone and impugn their integrity in a public arena, when they knew that they were not in the right.

I am all for tough questions. This wasn't "tough questioning," it was harranguing, ranting and spewing vitriol for the sake of the camera. That's grandstanding.

Ciels-
Michele

After looking at this thread, I took the time to read the transcript. Really don't understand what the outrage is about. The Senator spent a lot of time taking the public statements of Rice and compare them with the information that was available at the time (and the different views about the information in different agencies). Looking at it - I think the case can be made that the administration and Rice were embellishing the information and misleading the public. If this is "impugn the integrity" - well so be it - looking at the facts there is a case to answer in regard to the administration "misleading" the public into war.
Funny to see the "outrage" from the right. Just remember how happy the right was to "impugn the integrity" of John Kerry in regard to the Vietnam war.

Anyway, it is Saturday morning here, not a cloud in the sky and going to be around 85 F. So I am off to the DZ

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Boxer sounded like a spoiled rotten child screaming at a distinguished professor.

I didn't hear her raise her voice, did you ?

And she'll be around in the senate, long after the mendacious Ms. Rice is tenured in some comfy academic post somewhere.

Now, try a little experiment to see if you see beyond your predjuduces. Reverse the party affiliations of the two protagonists and see if you can summon up the same outrage. You'd probably post something about Rice's evasiveness in that case.

The whole left/right dog and pony show is a sham. You're just allowing yourself to be worked for their profit and amusement. The wheel will turn eventually, and the Democrats will be on top again one day, so it pays to get all this nonsense in perspective before you get caught up in more of the same old bullshit.

[TheAnvil 0]

You really think the leftists will be back on top anytime soon? I don't. Bill Richardson and Joe Liebermann seem the only two capable of taking the presidency in '08 and neither seem inclined to sell their souls to the pro-abortion/union/racial discrimination lobbies. Ms. Rice might fade into the limelight after '08 and perhaps not. Regardless, she'll still be far more intelligent than the senator from her home state, Ms. Boxer.

Vinny the Anvil
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[gjhdiver 0]

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You really think the leftists will be back on top anytime soon

This is exactly the hubris that republicans allowed themselves to develop during the Reagan adminstration. It was unthinkable after Reagan that you'd ever see a Democrat back in the white house.

This president is no Reagan either, and his popular majority is about 1%. That's not a rock solid mandate and a lot can happen in four years. The wheel will turn eventually. The Labour party waited neary 20 years in the UK. Remember the 40 years that the GOP waited to get control of congress ?

You'll see the wheel turn eventually. It always does. Doesn't matter how much we want it not to. That's why idiotc polemic does nothing other than to separate us all against each other. We're all going to have to work together and make use of that unfashionable word, compromise.

[TheAnvil 0]

I'm sure the wheel will turn but t'will not be soon. The current crop of left-leaning politicians have absolutely no idea/agenda other than block Bush in whatever he does.

Vinny the Anvil
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I'm sure the wheel will turn but t'will not be soon. The current crop of left-leaning politicians have absolutely no idea/agenda other than block Bush in whatever he does.

Vinny, you're more optimistic than I am. A lot can happen in the next 4 years to get the Repubs fired. On the other hand, I believe...like you...that the current crop on the left have no clue why they lost...and lost so big. The Kerrys, the Kennedys, the Boxers, the Pelosis et al seem to have this confused expression on their faces. As long as they hold on to the 'disenfranchised voter' conspiracy theory, they are never going to understand the message 60 million americans sent them on Nov. 2nd. I also believe that if they plan on being obstructionists the next 4 years, they will once again have that very confused look after election day '08.

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Muenkel, in a sense that is a bit of a funny read. Taking into account that Bush had the worst approval rating of any president on its second inauguration. I think much will depend on how long the Iraqi war continues and how it is dealt with.

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I'm sure the wheel will turn but t'will not be soon. The current crop of left-leaning politicians have absolutely no idea/agenda other than block Bush in whatever he does.

It's called being an effective opposition. It's what they are supposed to do really. The GOP did it for decades when in opposition. The GOP ran fillibuster after fillibuster on Clinton's judicial picks. It's the way a bicameral legislature is designed.

I personally think that the Democrats do better in elections when they show a spine in congress. It galvanizes the base that they badly need.

Let's not forget, that both Kerry and Bush got more votes in 2004 that any candidates for president ever got in history. The republican majority isn't that secure that they can legislate at will without seeing consequences during the next electoral cycle.

Bottom line is, we'll all be here to keep an eye on each other for a long time to come, so we might as well get used to the idea of compromise.

[Gravitymaster 0]

Denying a President Judicial picks who will serve long after the President has left office is understandable.

Denying the President his choice of an advisor to help him carry out his Foreign Policy and whose term will be over when the President leaves office is quite another.

I agree....Disgraceful and Indefensible