03CLS 0 #1 January 18, 2005 After this week they need to go........I mean the person is already on the job. This should only be held for first term presidents.......quit wasting taxpayers money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #2 January 18, 2005 Psssttt...wrong place for this post.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kinney29 0 #3 January 18, 2005 Yeah it's in the right forum now. but I agree it is somewhat rediculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 January 18, 2005 I believe that a 2nd term inaugural is called for, but the scale, scope, access and excess of this particular one is inappropriate when you consider that we have men and women in the field dieing for the mistakes of the Administration. Contrast the plans for this inauguration with those on 1945.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #5 January 18, 2005 ***After this week they need to go........I mean the person is already on the job. This should only be held for first term presidents.......quit wasting taxpayers money I think the 40+ million comes from the private sector,not from tax dollars,and I agree,I think they should be scaled back in time of war or for a "second".If the private sector feels the need to blow 40 mil,they could improve life on the res., buy land for a park, homeless shelters,etc.Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #6 January 18, 2005 QuoteI believe that a 2nd term inaugural is called for, but the scale, scope, access and excess of this particular one is inappropriate when you consider that we have men and women in the field dieing for the mistakes of the Administration. Contrast the plans for this inauguration with those on 1945. What an awful way to refer to our brave service men and women, Quade. Disgraceful, really. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #7 January 18, 2005 How did you feel about Clinton? I think that ALL second terms should have a small inauguration."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #8 January 18, 2005 I agree, all second term no matter who is elected should be small. The ONLY exception I could see is if the VP changed in the election.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
03CLS 0 #9 January 18, 2005 It has nothing to do with the current President........Why make another formal introduction when we know he keeping his position. And I don't think the DC police force will be paid for by private funds, but I could be wrong personally I think clinton was a whore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 January 18, 2005 Mistakes You guys never give up do you?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #11 January 18, 2005 What about no inaugurations at all - 1st or 2nd term? Everyone knows who won after the election anyway. and those who don't, aren't going to pay attention to a civil ceremony. How about just letting them get to work and quit with the pomp and so on and so forth...? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #12 January 18, 2005 First you say: QuoteIt has nothing to do with the current President........ Then you say: QuoteWhy make another formal introduction when we know he keeping his position So I guess then you feel the same about Clintons second Inauguration? And that was the question asked. I don't feel ANY second term prez needs a big second Inauguration....But I wonder if the Clinton lovers feel the same way, or if this is just another example of their hatred for Bush showing *again*. QuoteAnd I don't think the DC police force will be paid for by private funds, but I could be wrong I doubt it as well. But I don't care either. I don't think ANY second term Prez needs a big party. But some are just showing hatred of the current Prez anyway they can. They should just back off, accept defeat, and enjoy a good party. Or at least allow those that supported him to enjoy one. I didn't bitch about Clintons second Inauguration. Quotepersonally I think clinton was a whore I agree, and I also think he had some very good ideas. But he was a corrupt person."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
03CLS 0 #13 January 18, 2005 So I guess then you feel the same about Clintons second Inauguration? And that was the question asked. Yes, I felt the same about clinton's 2nd term, I just wasn't a member of this forum.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 January 18, 2005 I have no problem with the idea of no inaugurations. I was responding to the political jab quade just had to inject into the thread"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #15 January 18, 2005 QuoteWhat about no inaugurations at all - 1st or 2nd term? Everyone knows who won after the election anyway. and those who don't, aren't going to pay attention to a civil ceremony. How about just letting them get to work and quit with the pomp and so on and so forth...? I agree. We elect President's to work for us, not to throw "look at me" parties. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flarelatedad 0 #16 January 18, 2005 QuoteHow did you feel about Clinton? I think that ALL second terms should have a small inauguration. How do we know that Clinton has a "small inauguration" or not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #17 January 18, 2005 Bush is a fucking retard, the guy throws a 3 day party that costs over 40 million dollars, and on top of that refuses to pay the security tab forcing the city of DC to come up with the money, all this while we have our troops over seas dying on a daily basis. What the fuck does he have to celebrate? Another 4 years of being a public idiot? The guy is a top notch jackass. He is utterly worthless. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=7&u=/nm/20050118/ts_nm/bush_inaugural_dc_1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #18 January 18, 2005 QuoteBush is a fucking retard, the guy throws a 3 day party that costs over 40 million dollars, and on top of that refuses to pay the security tab forcing the city of DC to come up with the money, all this while we have our troops over seas dying on a daily basis. What the fuck does he have to celebrate? Another 4 years of being a public idiot? The guy is a top notch jackass. He is utterly worthless. Here is a perfect example of a Bush hater. At least he is honest about it. The only valid point he has is the cost of security. Everything else is noise. The cost of the party is from companies and individuals, not the public coffers. So why would that matter? The rant about the troops is typical, and it is also not related to this topic. But he took the chance to bring it up in typical fashion. One point I would like to bring up about the cost of security...How much does the city SAVE by having the Secret Service around 24/7? Either way I agree that a big party for a second term Prez is a waste....But then again they did win and they have the right to party....One might sugest that the WFFC is a waste of money."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #19 January 18, 2005 I cant remember the exact number, but how many days did michael moore calculate bush was on vacation during his first couple of years in office? Just my way of showing this guy is all about "ME" time. Now, while we are a nation at war he is compelled to shut down the entire district of columbia turning this area (yes I live here) into a total nightmare just so he can throw this grand event showcasing himself as the one and only. What the fuck is the purpose of that? Perhaps a positive gesture would have been for him to fore go this event and get his ass to fucking work (since he has a shitload of work to do making up for everything he screwed up in the first 4 years) instead of grandstanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #20 January 18, 2005 I'd be more impressed with the criticism if it was levelled at all Presidents who throw a big party for their inauguration. It seems self indulgent and wastefull, swear the guy in a small room and broadcast it on C-Span and get on with the job. That way it'll get the attention it deserves. Does a second term even need another oath? The capacity of different sides of the U.S. media to raise or lower their penalty flags depending on who is in office never ceases to amaze me. If Bush is upping the ante with this celebration then he should be criticized (extra security aside) but I have no way of determining this, I just don't trust the numbers from any side, maybe the G.A.O. should get involved (if they aren't already). Clinton had James Earl Jones and Air Force flybys so it wasn't a modest affair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #21 January 18, 2005 Quote cant remember the exact number, but how many days did michael moore calculate bush was on vacation during his first couple of years in office? OK this has been covered...He does not have to be in the WH to execute the powers of his office. Ever see the mobile office on AF1? QuoteJust my way of showing this guy is all about "ME" time. I only know of one Inauguration that was not a big deal. ONE. EVERY Prez has a big party it all started with the 1st Prez....It still happens. Clinton had a big party and made DC pay for the security...Where was your outrage then? You didn't have it since your beef is with the man, not the topic. QuoteNow, while we are a nation at war he is compelled to shut down the entire district of columbia turning this area (yes I live here) into a total nightmare just so he can throw this grand event showcasing himself as the one and only. What the fuck is the purpose of that? Hie reason is clearly just to piss you off. He has nothing better to do than try and piss in your cornflakes. It could be that this has been the tradition for over 200 years, a celibration of his victory and a party in the name of the Democratic process........Naw, it is just to piss you off. QuotePerhaps a positive gesture would have been for him to fore go this event and get his ass to fucking work (since he has a shitload of work to do making up for everything he screwed up in the first 4 years) instead of grandstanding. Well then he would miss a prime opportunity to accomplish his #1 goal. (Which BTW is piss you off). I still think that he is doing ti since he is glad he won a tight race, I think he wants to thank his supporters, I think he wants to celibrate the Democratic process...I could be wrong."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 January 18, 2005 QuoteI still think that he is doing it I really doubt most presidents have much say in how big an inauguration they are subjected to. Jimmy Carter requested a small inauguration "because that's the type of guy I see myself as" it royally pissed on the DNC and the press in general - "when are they going to bring back the pomp and circumstance of the PRESIDENCY". I'm not sure he got the small party even upon request - I was in high school or earlier I think at the time and not watching this stuff. With a party, without a party - bitching will happen regardless. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #23 January 18, 2005 >One might sugest that the WFFC is a waste of money. Of course it is, but it's fun. If the people who went to the inauguration paid for it voluntarily, then it would be very much like the WFFC and no problem whatsoever. The problem is, of course, that taxes pay for the inauguration, which means you and me. Imagine what the public would say if they found out that THEY paid for the jumps, the beer and the wet T-shirt contest at Rantoul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #24 January 18, 2005 Quote>Imagine what the public would say if they found out that THEY paid for the jumps, the beer and the wet T-shirt contest at Rantoul. "Where are the pictures?" "How can we be paying for this kind of thing while children are hungry?" "Bush is good" "I hate Bush" "The government needs to pay for my drinking" "The government needs to pay for dry t-shirts" "The government shouldn't be paying for drinking and t-shirts" "Won't someone think of the children?" "Dems are stupid" "Republicans are stupid" "The government should buy my local sports team a new stadium" "AADs are for the weak" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #25 January 18, 2005 QuoteMistakes You guys never give up do you? We'll give up when they stop making them. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
