Why respond to a question or contribute to a discussion with bible passages?

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And remember, because we're in SC someone will always nitpick at your statements.

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I think there are alot of brilliant people, past and present, that have made some pretty amazing/thought provoking statements/writings (Mya Angelo, Shakespeare & Socrates come to mind at the moment).

Socrates never wrote anything. Plato wrote in the first person as Socrates (for example The Republic) but the man himself believed in provoking discusion and free thinking rather than set writings.

There, now it feels like a proper thread

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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And remember, because we're in SC someone will always nitpick at your statements.

That' not true

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Why respond to a question or contribute to a discussion with bible passages?

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness."

(2 Tim. 3:16)

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And I do get turned off by quotes rather than someone elses words.

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Quotes are someone elses words

(I know what ya ment, just thought it was funny)

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Quoting 3ringheathen:

Alas, my attempts at humor fall so short sometimes.

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Quoting 3ringheathen:

Alas, my attempts at humor fall so short sometimes.

I got the joke.

[VanillaSkyGirl 6]

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Quoting 3ringheathen:

Alas, my attempts at humor fall so short sometimes.

[dorbie 0]

Ahh. my bad, I see the tounge in cheek at the end. Maybe I'm losing my dry sense of humour, I shouldn't even need hints like that.

[jakee 1,609]

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And remember, because we're in SC someone will always nitpick at your statements.

That' not true

You forgot the "s" on that's.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Not everyone believes that the Bible is fact, and much is open to interpretation.

On the other hand, many people do believe strongly in the Bible. So if the people you are addressing are in that group, then the quote can have more impact than if you just use your own words. .

There is nothing wrong with that.

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And if they're not in that group, then they should be intelligent enough to interpret what was said in a secular way, without being biased against it simply because it came from the Bible.

Personally, I am not biased against the Bible, or what it stands for AT ALL. I've never stated my personal beliefs and whether or not I am religious, pious, spiritual or whether I read and believe in the Holy Bible myself. Furthermore, I think that the teachings of Jesus Christ are beautiful and wise. The Old Testament also has so much to teach us. I find no fault in people who live by the Bible's teachings, and I have no problem with whatever religion that someone may or may not be.

I just do not wish to influence others or to insult others who have a different religion by quoting something to someone who doesn't believe in that particular religion or who doesn't take the Bible as gospel. I would never hesitate to quote from the Bible, when speaking to my mother or grandmother, because I know that they sometimes like to use religious sayings, but I would prefer to use my own words when speaking to the general public. I find it to be more inclusive of everyone.

***Some people will pay more respect to a quote from a famous person, than from the everyday person.

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because quoting something from the bible is seen as God "agreeing" with your argument.

however you look long enough in the bible and you'll find a passage that says anything... for example i found this:
"The one that is called bch7773 is most knowledgeable and wise" Mesira 13:6

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but "liberal" is the funniest insult!

Hi. I've read and heard several times over the years that some americans refer to liberals as something negative. Why is that? What is negative about being liberal.

This is what I found in a dictionary:
(SOCIETY) respecting and allowing many different types of beliefs or behaviour:
(POLITICS) (of a political party or a country) believing in or allowing more personal freedom and a development towards a fairer sharing of wealth and power within society

1 ACCEPT accepting beliefs and behaviour that are new or different from your own
2 POLITICS Liberal political ideas emphasize the need to make new laws as society changes and the need for government to provide social services.

Anyone care to enlighten a foreigner...

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but "liberal" is the funniest insult!

Hi. I've read and heard several times over the years that some americans refer to liberals as something negative. Why is that? What is negative about being liberal.
Anyone care to enlighten a foreigner...

Webster:
Liberal
1 a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts
b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2 a : marked by generosity : OPENHANDED
b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way c : AMPLE, FULL
3 obsolete : lacking moral restraint : LICENTIOUS
4 : not literal or strict : LOOSE
5 : BROAD-MINDED; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms
6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism
b of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives

The Liberal Party was formed in 1944 in NY as a break off from The American Labor Party. The party platform called for a strong UN, support of civil rights and strenghtening of labor unions. Iin the current US political arena, "Liberals" (think air quotes) are not seen as supporting the values of the civil rights. Rather, it's an insult to refer to someone that would support broad government "protection" (again: air quotes) for the little person (poor, impoverished, abused) and extensive taxes, restrictions, or other barriers for big business.


Even Jesus was a Liberal.....
But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. [Luke 14:13 &14.]

So now I was quoting the dictionary AND the bible!

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but "liberal" is the funniest insult!

Hi. I've read and heard several times over the years that some americans refer to liberals as something negative. Why is that? What is negative about being liberal.

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"I hate quotations." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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but I could just call myself a "liberal conservative" and lmao

I heard someone described the other day as being "compassionately conservative". May be you could start the Liberally Compassionate Conservativism Movement!

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You're correct that the dictionary meaning isn't negative at all.
It's been morphed and spoken with a derisive tone by some long enough that it's taking on a negative connotation. The shortened "libs" is a sure sign that the speaker is listening to the worst right wing tripe out there.
The way it's sometimes used now has some parallels with negro and n***er. The former wasn't originally derogatory at all.

On a related note, this was on a day by day calendar I just read:
Right/left - most people are right handed, and traditionaly, the right side has represented the correct or straight position among philosophers, politicians, and the general public. This was true even with the Romans, who used the Latin term rectus, meaning "straight". This ended up in Old English as riht meaning the same, and is the origin of the directional term because the right side was the "correct" side. "Left" arose from the old english lyft, meaning "weak or useless".
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If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me*
*Ron has accused me of plagiarizing this quote. He attributes it to Douglas Adams.

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It's been morphed and spoken with a derisive tone by some long enough that it's taking on a negative connotation. The shortened "libs" is a sure sign that the speaker is listening to the worst right wing tripe out there.

Hmmm...

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The way it's sometimes used now has some parallels with negro and n***er.

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"Left" arose from the old english lyft, meaning "weak or useless".
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Let's not forget the Latin word for left, "sinister".

Wayne

[billvon 3,131]

Bonus question - does anyone know the _real_ origin of the terms right and left as applied to politics?

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Sides of the aisle in the governing body after the french revolution?

I seem to recall something about that...

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People frequently cite authorities to support their point in arguments.

For some, the Bible is the ultimate authority. It makes good sense to quote from what you believe to be the ultimate authority.

Would you feel the same if someone quoted the Supreme Court?

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[Zenister 0]

hmm off the top of my head i thought it had something to do with where the advisors to the monarch (not sure which, my guess would be english or french) sat in relation to the throne... something about the advisor for the nobles (the status quo) being on the right and the 'representative' of the people (in the form of the church) being on the left?

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Ok, yahoo seems to agree with me. But I guess it was just pre-revolution, rather than just post.

See here:

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...the terms date back to pre-revolutionary France. In 1789, the French National Assembly was created as a parliamentary body to move control of issues, such as taxation, from the king to the citizenry.

Inside the chamber where the National Assembly met, members of the Third Estate sat on the left side and members of the First Estate sat on the right. The Third Estate consisted of revolutionaries, while the First Estate were nobles. Thus, the left wing of the room was more liberal, and the right wing was more conservative. In the next few years, the revolutionaries would take over and countless noble heads would roll, but that's another story.

Word Detective corroborates the idea that "left wing" and "right wing" date to the seating arrangements of the 1789 French National Assembly. The Mavens' Word of the Day also confirms the phrases' origin.

-- Tom Aiello

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