Bush donates 10K to relief effort..PATHETIC

[Skyrad 0]

10K is still 10K, we don't know if or how much Tony Blaire donated. Good on him for being open and I'm sure his work will be worth alot more than his 10k. He gets a bashing alot and I've been no fan of him in the past but looking from the outside I think he and America have done bloody well since 24/12. The best way to wage war on terror is to wage war on want.

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[EricTheRed 0]

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Now I really wish I would have voted,

by not having voted I think you should abstain from criticism for at least 4 years.

Consider it your penance.

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[VanillaSkyGirl 6]

This thread is unbelievable. To begin a thread merely to complain about how someone's donation(s) don't measure up to your particular ideals of what someone else should or shouldn't donate is actually more sad than anything. It is so sad that people fail to see the bigger picture and choose to be upset and angered by kind acts, trying to find ANY flaw in a good deed.

Funks, why choose to see what you perceive as negativity in other people? Or, is this simply because you seem to (by your replies) have a bias against Bush? It seems like no matter what Bush does, he will never be "good enough" or "for the right reasons". How dare you or anyone else judge someone else's good intentions? If Bush's donation made even ONE person donate or donate more to this cause, then it's worth it. Do you at least agree with that?

By the way, if Bush had donated much, much more, like what you say that you would have done, then people would still say negative things, like how he was "showing off" or doing it for the "publicity" or to look like he cares. It's a no-win situation.

Even the kindest acts can be twisted for interpretation by people's own perceptions. It is telling not of the president and what his "agenda" or intentions may be, it is more telling of people's own mindset and their own judgmental attitudes, in general.

[JoeyRamone 0]

Well how much did you donate? I bet it is not 10k. Something is better then nothing.

[freakbrother 0]

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He did not give three percent of his annual income, he gave (less than) 3% of his annual salary as POTUS.

True, the salary of POTUS alone is currently $400,000. His response was still generous and probably in excess of proportionate with fellow citizens and the level that would be healthy for us to contribute at as a nation and needs to be viewed in the context of his other generous donations.

Besides all this you're missing the underlying point that it's none of your business, .

It became our business when the White House announced it.

It's around 0.05% of his net worth.

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[funks 1]

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This thread is unbelievable. To begin a thread merely to complain about how someone's donation(s) don't measure up to your particular ideals of what someone else should or shouldn't donate is actually more sad than anything. It is so sad that people fail to see the bigger picture and choose to be upset and angered by kind acts, trying to find ANY flaw in a good deed.

Funks, why choose to see what you perceive as negativity in other people? Or, is this simply because you seem to (by your replies) have a bias against Bush? It seems like no matter what Bush does, he will never be "good enough" or "for the right reasons". How dare you or anyone else judge someone else's good intentions? If Bush's donation made even ONE person donate or donate more to this cause, then it's worth it. Do you at least agree with that?

By the way, if Bush had donated much, much more, like what you say that you would have done, then people would still say negative things, like how he was "showing off" or doing it for the "publicity" or to look like he cares. It's a no-win situation.

Even the kindest acts can be twisted for interpretation by people's own perceptions. It is telling not of the president and what his "agenda" or intentions may be, it is more telling of people's own mindset and their own judgmental attitudes, in general.

Question for everyone - Would you have a problem if Bush only donated $100?

[ladyskydiver 0]

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This thread is unbelievable. To begin a thread merely to complain about how someone's donation(s) don't measure up to your particular ideals of what someone else should or shouldn't donate is actually more sad than anything. It is so sad that people fail to see the bigger picture and choose to be upset and angered by kind acts, trying to find ANY flaw in a good deed.

Funks, why choose to see what you perceive as negativity in other people? Or, is this simply because you seem to (by your replies) have a bias against Bush? It seems like no matter what Bush does, he will never be "good enough" or "for the right reasons". How dare you or anyone else judge someone else's good intentions? If Bush's donation made even ONE person donate or donate more to this cause, then it's worth it. Do you at least agree with that?

By the way, if Bush had donated much, much more, like what you say that you would have done, then people would still say negative things, like how he was "showing off" or doing it for the "publicity" or to look like he cares. It's a no-win situation.

Even the kindest acts can be twisted for interpretation by people's own perceptions. It is telling not of the president and what his "agenda" or intentions may be, it is more telling of people's own mindset and their own judgmental attitudes, in general.

Question for everyone - Would you have a problem if Bush only donated $100?

No. Unlike what seems to be your perception, I don't care what he donated - the fact that he did is all that matters. How dare you or anyone decide what is appropriate for someone to donate? You are not in their shoes nor do you know exactly what is going on in their lives - president or not.

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[Newbie 0]

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This thread is unbelievable. To begin a thread merely to complain about how someone's donation(s) don't measure up to your particular ideals of what someone else should or shouldn't donate is actually more sad than anything. It is so sad that people fail to see the bigger picture and choose to be upset and angered by kind acts, trying to find ANY flaw in a good deed.

Funks, why choose to see what you perceive as negativity in other people? Or, is this simply because you seem to (by your replies) have a bias against Bush? It seems like no matter what Bush does, he will never be "good enough" or "for the right reasons". How dare you or anyone else judge someone else's good intentions? If Bush's donation made even ONE person donate or donate more to this cause, then it's worth it. Do you at least agree with that?

By the way, if Bush had donated much, much more, like what you say that you would have done, then people would still say negative things, like how he was "showing off" or doing it for the "publicity" or to look like he cares. It's a no-win situation.

Even the kindest acts can be twisted for interpretation by people's own perceptions. It is telling not of the president and what his "agenda" or intentions may be, it is more telling of people's own mindset and their own judgmental attitudes, in general.

Question for everyone - Would you have a problem if Bush only donated $100?

No. Doesn't matter how much you give, just give something (even if it's a dime in a collection box, that dime might be enough to buy fresh water for one person for one day)

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[funks 1]

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This thread is unbelievable. To begin a thread merely to complain about how someone's donation(s) don't measure up to your particular ideals of what someone else should or shouldn't donate is actually more sad than anything. It is so sad that people fail to see the bigger picture and choose to be upset and angered by kind acts, trying to find ANY flaw in a good deed.

Funks, why choose to see what you perceive as negativity in other people? Or, is this simply because you seem to (by your replies) have a bias against Bush? It seems like no matter what Bush does, he will never be "good enough" or "for the right reasons". How dare you or anyone else judge someone else's good intentions? If Bush's donation made even ONE person donate or donate more to this cause, then it's worth it. Do you at least agree with that?

By the way, if Bush had donated much, much more, like what you say that you would have done, then people would still say negative things, like how he was "showing off" or doing it for the "publicity" or to look like he cares. It's a no-win situation.

Even the kindest acts can be twisted for interpretation by people's own perceptions. It is telling not of the president and what his "agenda" or intentions may be, it is more telling of people's own mindset and their own judgmental attitudes, in general.

Question for everyone - Would you have a problem if Bush only donated $100?

No. Unlike what seems to be your perception, I don't care what he donated - the fact that he did is all that matters. How dare you or anyone decide what is appropriate for someone to donate? You are not in their shoes nor do you know exactly what is going on in their lives - president or not.

I just simply view his donation as insincere and a means to appease the american public. I have said over and over again that I would tend to believe that if there was no media reports of donations being made by celebrities then he probably would not have donated a dime. Once again, my opinion.

He is worth millions, and has access to millions. He is our commander in chief. He is the leader of the free world. 10K is paltry in my mind considering the source that it came from.

[VanillaSkyGirl 6]

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Question for everyone - Would you have a problem if Bush only donated $100?

That is a hypothetical question, not a reality. I react to the real world, not to a "what if", so I am not answering your "what if". That's almost as bad as people who say "I could have" or "I would have", but they actually didn't and probably never will.

Furthermore, I actually don't care to judge someone based on what he or she donates. Charity and donations are something that people should be doing for the greater good of others, not because it validates them as a person or makes them superior to others who do not donate. It is something that is nobody else's business. Sorry if I am not interested in"policing" people's donations or in finding out their net worth.

If you are so unhappy with how much others have not helped enough monetarily, then do something about it yourself. Find a way to send more funds or to get involved in raising more money for the tsunami victims.

By the way, I personally had close friends die in Sri Lanka. One of them was there for 2 years to teach music to underpriviledged kids. Her parents were visiting her during the holidays. They are all originally from Sri Lanka, but they currently lived in the United States. They were well-off finacially and socially by any standards in the US, but I still found that what the daughter was doing was quite admirable. Don't you?

Being better-off than another does not mean that your good deeds or financial donations should be expected or mocked or questioned. Just like it's not right to judge someone without $$$, it's equally wrong to judge someone who is better off financially or socially than we are. It's impossible to know what is in another man's heart.

[Ron 10]

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Question for everyone - Would you have a problem if Bush only donated $100?

No, it would not be any of my business how much you, or he gave. That is up to you or him.

I don't tend to tell others how to spend their money, and I don't like when others try to tell me how to spend mine.

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[rehmwa 2]

Funks - If anything comes through here, this does to me.

I don't think I've ever seen Rosa take a position to correct someone or disagree in a less than gentle manner. This is a person that bends over backward to try and completely sympathize with anyone's position on these forums or if she doesn't, fills it in with compliments and kind things to take the sting off.

Until now. You have to be completely out of line for that to happen.

I'm completely blown away and fully done even reading this thread.

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[vstar2001 0]

I just simply view his donation as insincere and a means to appease the american public. I have said over and over again that I would tend to believe that if there was no media reports of donations being made by celebrities then he probably would not have donated a dime. Once again, my opinion.

He is worth millions, and has access to millions. He is our commander in chief. He is the leader of the free world. 10K is paltry in my mind considering the source that it came from.

[shropshire 0]

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I just simply view his donation as insincere and a means to appease the american public. I have said over and over again that I would tend to believe that if there was no media reports of donations being made by celebrities then he probably would not have donated a dime. Once again, my opinion.

You can't possibly know this... just leave the man alone - he take enough shite for the stuff he really gets wrong without having to put up with this sort of tosh. As I (and others ) have said above - how much he gives (or does not give) is completely up to him and NO ONE elses business.

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[Ron 10]

You got spunk girl....Welcome to SC

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[jcd11235 0]

Ron, Shrub did not donate 3% of his annual income, either. Why are you tring to hold others to higher standards?

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[VanillaSkyGirl 6]

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You got spunk girl....Welcome to SC

Lol...I've been lurking here before, but I usually don't feel the urge to contribute any more to the discussions. Believe it or not, I'd rather not discuss certain things online. Yet, this thread's original tone really bothered me. Not that I have a problem with Funks, I just felt that for anyone to condemn or judge anyone's donations or assistance in this situation is just going too far.

I hope that $10,000 gets put to good use.

[funks 1]

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*** how much he gives (or does not give) is completely up to him and NO ONE elses business.

Tell them to keep it out of the media then.

[Ron 10]

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Ron, Shrub did not donate 3% of his annual income, either. Why are you tring to hold others to higher standards?

Why do you want me to pay for your school when you are unwilling to work?

Hell, lets assume it was only 1% of his salary. I bet moast didn't even do that.

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[shropshire 0]

How? You cann't tell the media to DO anything.

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[jcd11235 0]

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Why do you want me to pay for your school when you are unwilling to work?

Let's stay topical, shall we? We already have a thread for that discussion, let's not hijack another with wild misquotes.

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[Ron 10]

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Let's stay topical, shall we? We already have a thread for that discussion, let's not hijack another with wild misquotes.

Then if you feel that way how about putting the rest of my remarks in?

I bet very few gave even 1%.

And its none of your business how much he gave. Get over it.

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[krouton01 0]

?Did he put this in the media or did the media put it out there.. I dont know?
10,000 i guess doesnt sound like much to you but what i'm sure your aware of but just forgot to let everyone else know was how closly guarded and watched every cent the president spends is. He has to make very careful the money isnt taken from things that many have advocated like his (campaign). This action is a felony. Another question how much disposable income does he have at the end of the year? I don't know how his personal budget works but clearly you do. However, one thing that probably doesnt intrest you is the recent estimation that the US will end up spending more the a Billion dollars on the relief fund. Again, i dont know how accurate this estimation was since i got it off a fairly liberal news source(AOL ticker) that was actually trying to insult Bush for wild spending(go figure cant please some people). Another thing i've noticed about some posters is there constant use of Bushs' instead of G.W. Bush. This comment was about his individual contribution not his families. One thing that does seem clear to me is that this thread was started because funk wanted some affirmation for his hatred for Bush( i know i know its the position not the person your holding to higher standard..whatever) it looks like you cant even get it from most the lefters. Sorry but good luck with your future witchhunts.
P.S. I dont support Bush either but I can read and comprehend a compelling argument.

[jcd11235 0]

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And its none of your business how much he gave. Get over it.

Shrub ran for reelection with character as an issue. His charitable donations are the business of evry voter, for or against him.

The Whitehouse announced Shrub's donations to the media. That makes it the business of everyone in the world with access to American media.

And the only claim I made is that Shrub did not donate 3% of his income as you claim. He didn't even donate three percent of his salary as POTUS.

Get over it.

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[ccowden 0]

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How much have you donated?

if you base it on our relative net worths i have donated alot more than he has.

Now THAT is truly pathetic! The fact that you are putting down what someone has donated and flaunting what YOU have, is disgusting. Charity is only charity when it is anonymous. The president doesn't have much choice on that. But YOU, with your "The President only gave this much and I gave this much," is what is pathetic.

Whether the President gave $10,000 or $10, doesn't matter. that is for him to decide for himself. The ONLY thing you or anyone else should be worried about is what YOU gave.

God looks more favorably on the person who sneaks into church to give 50 cents than the person who donated thousands and wants his name listed in the Bulliten.

Your post is classless. Especially in this time of need for the victims.