SkyDekker 1,465 #26 January 5, 2005 QuoteTexas law allows you to defend yourself, your family AND your property. That's what that comes from. Serious question: If some one is standing on your front lawn and you think he might do damage to your grass, you can shoot him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #27 January 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteTexas law allows you to defend yourself, your family AND your property. That's what that comes from. Serious question: If some one is standing on your front lawn and you think he might do damage to your grass, you can shoot him? Yes!!!!!!!! You will probably go to jail, but you can shoot him if you want to!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #28 January 5, 2005 QuoteYes!!!!!!!! You will probably go to jail, but you can shoot him if you want to!!! sigh...........without getting charged obviously Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #29 January 5, 2005 Actually, I believe the law covers "theft in the night", but I may be mistaken...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tf15 0 #30 January 5, 2005 QuoteQuote I think I have the right to shoot your ass. Well they say to shoot for center of mass. So give me another couple of decades, I'll try to eat more. It was a typo, he meant to write "I think I have the right to shoot your MASS." Three times is enemy action Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #31 January 5, 2005 Quotesigh...........without getting charged obviously Sigh.... bullshit, obviously. Knee-jerk much? Maybe you should stick to skydiving in Canada and Europe since you have such a prejudice against oh-so-violent America. Just for your edification, however: If I recall correctly, ALL shootings go to a grand jury in Texas.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #32 January 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteYes!!!!!!!! You will probably go to jail, but you can shoot him if you want to!!! sigh...........without getting charged obviously Hmmm DID YOU READ MY POST? WHAT DOES IT SAY??????? Oh, OK I have to repeat it i see..... You will probably go to jail..... I guess that wasn't clear enough. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #33 January 5, 2005 QuoteJust for your edification, however: If I recall correctly, ALL shootings go to a grand jury in Texas. Ohh okay, thanks. amazing how much bullshit one has to read through to try and learn something. Since the statement was that you are allowed to shoot some one to protect property in Texas, I was wondering if there were any limitations on that at all? Seemed like a valid question to me, but I can see how some read that as: all guns should be banned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #34 January 5, 2005 I believe, if the person was just tearin'-up my grass, I'd call the police and file 'malicious destruction of property' charges. If, he barges into my house and starts wreckin' a family member or me... different story. Several years ago, here in Texas, when they passed the Concealed Handgun law, one of the first license holders got involved in a 'road-rage' incident in Dallas. He tried to stay 'un-involved'. Traffic 'jammed-up' and the one guy got out of his car, reached in the other car involved and started beating the driver with a bat or something similar. The recipient of the beating had a Concealed Handgun License. He pulled his pistol and killed the guy and no charges were filed. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #35 January 5, 2005 QuoteTraffic 'jammed-up' and the one guy got out of his car, reached in the other car involved and started beating the driver with a bat or something similar. The recipient of the beating had a Concealed Handgun License. He pulled his pistol and killed the guy and no charges were filed. Kinda hard to imagine why that was considered self-defense. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #36 January 5, 2005 Quotest: Quote Traffic 'jammed-up' and the one guy got out of his car, reached in the other car involved and started beating the driver with a bat or something similar. The recipient of the beating had a Concealed Handgun License. He pulled his pistol and killed the guy and no charges were filed. Kinda hard to imagine why that was considered self-defense. OK STOP! That's only half of the story. The guy the CHL recieved a good number of stitches AND a fairly severe concusion during this beating and in which he was trying to get away. He had to draw and fire in pure self defense. For everyone bashing Texas law and calling self defense/proerty protection murder I suggest you spend some time reading up on the law and what actually happens after a shoot. In Texas even with a "clean shoot" you're going to spend about $50,000 on court costs because it does go to a grand jury. As for shooting someone on your property, they have to be commiting a criminal act at night (not during the day) or actually be IN your property, i.e. your house or leaving your house with your property. All the folks here are making assumptions and stating them as fact. That has to be one of the most unintelligent forms of arguement, stating assumptions as fact and not do any sort of research. Good job guys, I see why folks actually listen to your opinions.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #37 January 5, 2005 Okay, Sorry, I forgot the smiley thingies. I was being a bit on the sarcastic side. Assuming the guy was in fact being beaten with a bat, or other blunt instrument, I find it ludicrous to think it could be found as anything other than self defense. Believe me, if someone is trying to use my head for batting practice, and I have a gun (or any other weapon), you better believe I am going to use it in my own defense.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #38 January 5, 2005 Thanks, Dave for 'clarifying' that story I told. I was told of the incident by the CHL instructor. Memory must be goin' bad. We had it really stressed in the CHL class to really use your head when using a handgun. We were also informed of the co$t involved with the 'use' of a concealed handgun. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #39 January 5, 2005 QuoteI was told of the incident by the CHL instructor. Memory must be goin' bad Yup, that's where I first heard the story too, after that I spent some time running down the details.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #40 January 5, 2005 Well, ya' done good! Appreciate it. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #41 January 5, 2005 QuoteAs for shooting someone on your property, they have to be commiting a criminal act at night (not during the day) or actually be IN your property, i.e. your house or leaving your house with your property. Thanks, that was more the information I was looking for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #42 January 5, 2005 QuoteThanks, that was more the information I was looking for. Tresspassing doesn't necissarily count, unless the intention is to commit a criminal act. On the flip side, even toliet papering a house is a criminal act...gotta use your head above and beyond the law.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #43 January 5, 2005 Here is where a dz.commer talks about the consequences of using deadly force. It's a good post. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #44 January 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteThanks, that was more the information I was looking for. Tresspassing doesn't necissarily count, unless the intention is to commit a criminal act. On the flip side, even toliet papering a house is a criminal act...gotta use your head above and beyond the law. If you toilet paper an aircraft hanger would they throw the patriot act at you? I always drag the body over the doorstep and mess with the blood evidence. Don't they teach this stuff at your gun club? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #45 January 5, 2005 QuoteI always drag the body over the doorstep and mess with the blood evidence. Don't they teach this stuff at your gun club? Yup, that its painfully obvious to LEO's if the body has been moved, better to leave it lay and call your lawyer.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #46 January 5, 2005 It is, an interesting post! Thanks for sharing. I feel, a person has to look at all sides and angles and do some serious soul-searching, before applying for a concealed hand gun license. Having been in law enforcement and my wife, who is presently in law enforcement, it wasn't too difficult of a decision for me. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
