akarunway 1 #1 January 4, 2005 Any one wanna bet? > Gov. Bush Arrives In Thailand To Witness Tsunami Damage POSTED: 10:59 pm EST January 2, 2005 UPDATED: 4:59 pm EST January 3, 2005 BANGKOK, Thailand -- Gov. Jeb Bush and U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell are now in Bangkok for the first leg of their trip to visit three Indian Ocean countries with heavy damage and loss of life from last week's tsunamis. After Thailand, Bush and Powell plan to visit Indonesia and Sri Lanka.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 January 4, 2005 Another Bush, although I like the family and their politics for the most part, wouldn't be the best for the country. Honestly I could see McCain running again.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #3 January 4, 2005 Damn. I finally agree w/ you on somethingI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #4 January 4, 2005 With the help of Diebold and Republican election oversight, anything is possible. Endurance has its limits.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 January 4, 2005 Quote Damn. I finally agree w/ you on something "Cats and dogs living together..." --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #6 January 4, 2005 QuoteHonestly I could see McCain running again. I would love to see McCain carry the Republican nomination in '08. I think he's the best candidate I've seen since I've been able to vote, from any party (this is coming from somebody who, after considering the issues, almost always ends up voting Democrat). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #7 January 4, 2005 QuoteI would love to see McCain carry the Republican nomination in '08. I was disappointed he lost the nomination in 2000, and also disappointed he didn't accept Kerry's potential offer to share ticket. While he is definitely far right of my political view, he has a history of bipartisan politics, and a level of integrity unmatched by Shrub. While he would probably not get my vote, I could still feel good about supporting him as POTUS if he did win.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 January 4, 2005 Quote also disappointed he didn't accept Kerry's potential offer to share ticket. Huh...you know, I see him turning down the spot on the ticket as him having some integrity and honor as well as being true to what he believes. Kerry didn't stand for much of anything besides simply stating "he had a plan" to magically fix everything. McCain would have lost a LOT of respect across the country by running with Kerry. Anyways, moot point since Kerry lost. All the political shuck and jiving starts now pretty much, getting in position for the 2 year point to become a front runner hopeful to prepair for primaries. All in all its a very interesting process to watch and even more fun if you get to participate in some fasion, helping push who you think should be the next nomination.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #9 January 4, 2005 QuoteHuh...you know, I see him turning down the spot on the ticket as him having some integrity and honor as well as being true to what he believes. Kerry didn't stand for much of anything besides simply stating "he had a plan" to magically fix everything. McCain would have lost a LOT of respect across the country by running with Kerry. I think he would have gained a lot more respect than he would have lost. To me it would have shown that he had the integrity to say that although he is a conservative Republican, his allegiance is to his country before his party. Besides, Kerry is not nearly as liberal as Shrub's camp made him out to be during the campaign. He has had oppurtunities in the past to work with McCain. Perhaps they make a very effective team, and work well together, and Kerry wanted to take advantage of that fact. Maybe McCain already had his eye on 2008. We don't know why he didn't run.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #10 January 4, 2005 QuoteWhile he is definitely far right of my political view, I have a feeling Ralph Nader is far right of your view.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #11 January 4, 2005 I'd be pretty shocked if Powell ran. The Republican's were on their knees begging him to run before and he wasn't interested. I doubt his experience over the past few years has warmed him to the idea. Jeb is probably just the US politician best able to understand what they are going through over there and offer advice, what with his experience from the last hurricane season. You know, reaching out and stuff. He can relate (somewhat) to their situation, and he's a direct pipeline to W. Sounds like just a good idea, not necessarily political posturing.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #12 January 4, 2005 McCain is pro-life. No way in hell he was ever a serious consideration for the Democratic ticket. That was BS from the get-go, IMO.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #13 January 4, 2005 If we had ranked voting, Nader would have been my first choice; unfortunately, we do not have ranked voting. Nader has a lifetime of experience fighting corporations as a consumer advocate. Of course, without corporate support, if only via major network news coverage, there is little chance at all of getting elected. Ironic.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tf15 0 #14 January 4, 2005 QuoteAnother Bush, although I like the family and their politics for the most part, wouldn't be the best for the country. Just as true now as it was in 2000. Three times is enemy action Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #15 January 4, 2005 QuoteI doubt his experience over the past few years has warmed him to the idea. I would think the opposite is true. I would think his experience might motivate him to run. To do things better himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #16 January 4, 2005 I had similar thoughts with regards to Jeb Bush when I heard that initially. Still think that he might have Presidential aspirations, but not in '08. It DOES bolster his credentials with regards to foreign policy/international experience. However, in a way, it makes sense to send him there because he's governor of the state that got it's ass kicked by hurricanes recently. A hurricane's storm surge isn't a tsunami, but some of the damage is similar. Jeb Bush would make a good president, I believe, but I don't see him running in '08. I think sKerry has a good shot at the Dem nomination in '08. I see Giuliani as a contender for the Republicans, but that would be interesting as I believe he's pro-pre-natal murder. I don't think the pro-life lobby has as large of a stranglehold on the Republicans as the pro-pre-natal murder lobby has on the Democrats, but the pro-life lobby DOES weigh in heavily with the Republican National Party, no doubt about it. The '08 election will be interesting. Don't think Powell will run. Wish he would. We shall see. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #17 January 4, 2005 My take? Before the next election Chenney will step down from VP. Giuliani, or MacCain will take his place as VP. The repubs will beg Powell to run as VP. Powell will turn them down, and it will be those two. I don't know which will be on top....I lean towards the MacCain/Giuliani ticket. Jeb will run, but it will be later. The Dems will abandon Kerry. Expect Obama to be placed into positions of power preping him for not 08 but the next open run. Clinton will be on the ticket as VP."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #18 January 4, 2005 QuoteMy take? Before the next election Chenney will step down from VP. Giuliani, or MacCain will take his place as VP. The repubs will beg Powell to run as VP. Powell will turn them down, and it will be those two. I don't know which will be on top....I lean towards the MacCain/Giuliani ticket. McCain/Giuliani would be almost unbeatable. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a Dem that would stand a chance. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #19 January 4, 2005 QuoteQuoteMy take? Before the next election Chenney will step down from VP. Giuliani, or MacCain will take his place as VP. The repubs will beg Powell to run as VP. Powell will turn them down, and it will be those two. I don't know which will be on top....I lean towards the MacCain/Giuliani ticket. McCain/Giuliani would be almost unbeatable. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a Dem that would stand a chance. Blues, Dave I would not vote for McCain with Giuliani as his running mate._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 January 4, 2005 QuoteAny one wanna bet? > Gov. Bush Arrives In Thailand To Witness Tsunami Damage And NPR radio reported the same thing, suggesting that George Bush sent his brother Jeb to give him "international experience", for a possible presidential run. That's just bullshit. It shows how whacky the Bush-haters can get with their conspiracy ideas. He was sent because, as a long-time governor of Florida, he has extensive experience with hurricane disasters, which are very similar to the tsunami disaster. The fact that the Bush-haters can't give Jeb credit for that, shows just how extremist they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #21 January 4, 2005 QuoteI think he would have gained a lot more respect than he would have lost. To me it would have shown that he had the integrity to say that although he is a conservative Republican, his allegiance is to his country before his party. Besides, Kerry is not nearly as liberal as Shrub's camp made him out to be during the campaign. He has had oppurtunities in the past to work with McCain. Perhaps they make a very effective team, and work well together, and Kerry wanted to take advantage of that fact. Maybe McCain already had his eye on 2008. We don't know why he didn't run. I have to disagree with you on two points: 1) McCain is NOT a conservative republican. 2) Kerry is only slightly less liberal than Kennedy. Kerry saw appeal to McCain because McCain is an independent conservative who does not tow the party line and thought he could drive a rift into the republicans by getting another veteran senator to "jump ship". Nothing more. Kerry is still baffled as to why McCain didn't accept the offer.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #22 January 4, 2005 Quotef we had ranked voting, Nader would have been my first choice; unfortunately, we do not have ranked voting. Nader has a lifetime of experience fighting corporations as a consumer advocate. Of course, without corporate support, if only via major network news coverage, there is little chance at all of getting elected. Ironic. Well, if you have a knee-jerk negative attitude towards corporations in general, you probably aren't the best choice for running a country whose success is largely based on free market capitalism. Not so ironic at all, in fact it makes perfect sense. My opinion: I don't think I could support Nader for Prez. I see Nader as a protester, not a leader of the USA. Nader has spent his whole career saying "NO." He's great for the American-guilt mongers, & that's about it. I just don't see him as a positive leader of America. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #23 January 5, 2005 "Cats and dogs living together..." I TAKE THAT AS A PERSONAL INSULT YOU STICKING YOUR TOUNGE OUT AT ME. YOU SHOULD BE BANNED. PS. AM I THE CAT OR THE DOG?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #24 January 5, 2005 QuoteClinton will be on the ticket as VP. I have heard rumors of running Mrs. Hillary Clinton as VP. Of course, there are rumors that Mr. Hillary Clinton would be doing some foreign policy stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #25 January 5, 2005 QuoteWith the help of Diebold and Republican election oversight, anything is possible. Diebold machines were not used in Ohio.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites