JohnRich 4 #1 December 30, 2004 In the news: 154 Officers Died in Line of Duty in 2004 Law enforcement organizations reported Tuesday that 154 officers died in the line of duty in 2004, nearly half of them in traffic-related accidents. Seventy-two local, state and federal officers died from traffic-related accidents while 57, about one-third, died from shootings...Source: Yahoo News More police officers are killed by cars, then by guns! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #2 December 30, 2004 Another officer, in Georgia, was killed today! The officer approached a 'roll-over' accident, only to be shot to death by the occupant of the 'rolled-over' vehicle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jkm2500 0 #3 December 30, 2004 QuoteMore police officers are killed by cars, then by guns! This really isn't a very convicing argument towards the anti-gunners. They really wouldn't be happy if there were no guns....then they would then shift the blame of the thousands of deaths that occur every year away from the real cause.....People. They would have to come up with some other scapegoat for people who really don't have any business in society.The primary purpose of the Armed Forces is to prepare for and to prevail in combat should the need arise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #4 December 30, 2004 QuoteIn the news: 154 Officers Died in Line of Duty in 2004 And the New Year toast is, regrettably; "Absent Friends" Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WFFC 1 #5 January 2, 2005 One here in Peoria too - Cruiser/telephone pole altercation. Telephone pole won. Saw the cruiser on the news and they would not speculate how fast the cruiser was going but did say the officer was not on a call. There were no skid marks up to the pole either. The vehicle's engine landed 20 feet from the scene of the accident. While the officer died in the line of duty, it's pointing towards doing something 'stupid' while on the clock as they were not heading to an incident - just hotrodding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #6 January 2, 2005 Un-fortunately, these things happen. Cops are human too. It's sad but, we just can't let that over-shadow the great numbers of really good and dedicated cops out there. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #7 January 2, 2005 Un-fortunately, these things happen. Cops are human too. It's sad but, we just can't let that over-shadow the great numbers of really good and dedicated cops out there.======================================What's that, about the 1% that aren't power and control freaks?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #8 January 2, 2005 I see a lot of young officers with 'rookie-itis'. They want to kick-in doors and bust the bad guys. They don't have the patience for long hours of surveillance or 'really handling 'domestic violence' (politically correct term for spousal abuse!), checking for prowlers, serving warrants and etc. There ARE a lot of damned good, dedicated cops out there. Having been in police work and my wife, who IS a police officer, I'm still 'involved' in it and get to see a lot. Theres and old saying about walking a mile in their shoes before judging. Seems as though, the only stories that make the press are the 'bad' ones. The stories about that small minority who has their head up their butt. The majority can't be judged by the 'few'. Let 'em do their job. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #9 January 3, 2005 Let 'em do their job. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Like Philly, Ruby Ridge and Waco? I talked many a senior officer and they say the training they (recruits) are getting is, borders on paranoia. They don't think much off it either. I've been standing around minding my own business waiting for my ride or whatever and been thrown up against a wall and searched w/o permission a few times and I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF IT. Gonna be a real police state (country) before long. THE good old USA. wooda thunkI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #10 January 3, 2005 What did the police have to do with Ruby Ridge and Waco? What incident are you referring to in Philly? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites killler 2 #11 January 3, 2005 Quote What did the police have to do with Ruby Ridge and Waco? What incident are you referring to in Philly? - Jim Every state has its own Waco/ruby ridge... The only way police will help the people get behind them is to go after the bad cops... Till they do... We will still have a poor outlook on the police... Killer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ahegeman 0 #12 January 3, 2005 QuoteI've been standing around minding my own business waiting for my ride or whatever and been thrown up against a wall and searched w/o permission a few times and I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF IT. You've been standing around, doing nothing wrong, and a cop has simply thrown you up against a wall and searched you? And this has happened many times? Tell us about a couple of them.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #13 January 3, 2005 and as long as that's all the press will write about is 'bad' cops, yeah, the public won't have a very high opinion of police. There's good and bad in everything. Politics, sports, pilots, machine operators... you name it. To 'generalize that all cops are bad, well, that's too bad. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #14 January 3, 2005 Dang-it! I was going to ask the same thing of him. The police, don't just grab someone and throw them against a wall, without provocation or 'probable cause'. Something triggered it. Ya' think? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites killler 2 #15 January 3, 2005 QuoteDang-it! I was going to ask the same thing of him. The police, don't just grab someone and throw them against a wall, without provocation or 'reasonable cause'. Something triggered it. Ya' think? Chuck Not always.....I find the reports on bad cops funny in the fact that they "always" back them up... The thin blue line.... I have friends that are in law inforcement.... They think the same way as me... Killer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #16 January 3, 2005 Interesting. Do they 'back them up' to the bitter end or, do they 'back them up' till they realize the officer(s) in question were in fact wrong? Cops are 'supposed' to support and back-up their fellow officers, sure. In a 'perfect world' in this country, everyone is considered 'innocent' till proven guilty. With the press and T.V. news, it's usually the other way around. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites killler 2 #17 January 3, 2005 Lets look at the cops in NYC that fu@ked a guy with a night stick and a mop handle.... Three cops were there when it happened and "EVERY ONE" in the place knew what had happened.... Not one cop can forward.... They all said? I don't know.... The one cop how told the truth was only doing it to save his own a$$.... thats the thin blue line for you... Now.... Are all cops like that? NO.... But till you clean-up the crap... It'll always smell Killer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #18 January 3, 2005 Yeah, the few that did that make all cops look bad. You're going to find 'crap' in every facet of our society. I don't care where you look... it's gonna be there. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites killler 2 #19 January 3, 2005 I understand that... I give a cop the respect he gives me... Be a a$$... I'll give it right back ten fold over... I don't back down... NEVER... Not in my blood.. Killer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #20 January 4, 2005 How many construction workers died while building homes for people to live in and buildings for people to work in? How many fishermen died trying to catch food for people to eat? Why do people make such a big deal about on-the-job deaths in this particular occupation but not others? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rickjump1 0 #21 January 4, 2005 QuoteHow many construction workers died while building homes for people to live in and buildings for people to work in? How many fishermen died trying to catch food for people to eat? Why do people make such a big deal about on-the-job deaths in this particular occupation but not others? Blues, Dave The police are here to protect and serve the public full time. With exceptions, when they die in the line of duty, it is usually no accident. This is what upsets the public. Logging leads as the most dangerous occupation. Nobody hears about them.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites killler 2 #22 January 4, 2005 2/3 die in trafic accidents only 1/3 die of gun shots... Sounds like they need Driver ED.... Killer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rickjump1 0 #23 January 4, 2005 Quote2/3 die in trafic accidents only 1/3 die of gun shots... Sounds like they need Driver ED.... Killer.... Well.. You got me. I wonder how many of the 2/3 were responding to a crime in progress or to another traffic accident (maybe another police accident).Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites killler 2 #24 January 4, 2005 Seventy-two local, state and federal officers died from traffic-related accidents while 57, about one-third, died from shootings... Source: Yahoo News Don't know were they were going? But they hit something Killer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justdumi 0 #25 January 4, 2005 QuoteSeventy-two local, state and federal officers died from traffic-related accidents while 57, Quote I thought all that crashing stuff only happened on LA Heat. 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WFFC 1 #5 January 2, 2005 One here in Peoria too - Cruiser/telephone pole altercation. Telephone pole won. Saw the cruiser on the news and they would not speculate how fast the cruiser was going but did say the officer was not on a call. There were no skid marks up to the pole either. The vehicle's engine landed 20 feet from the scene of the accident. While the officer died in the line of duty, it's pointing towards doing something 'stupid' while on the clock as they were not heading to an incident - just hotrodding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #6 January 2, 2005 Un-fortunately, these things happen. Cops are human too. It's sad but, we just can't let that over-shadow the great numbers of really good and dedicated cops out there. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #7 January 2, 2005 Un-fortunately, these things happen. Cops are human too. It's sad but, we just can't let that over-shadow the great numbers of really good and dedicated cops out there.======================================What's that, about the 1% that aren't power and control freaks?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #8 January 2, 2005 I see a lot of young officers with 'rookie-itis'. They want to kick-in doors and bust the bad guys. They don't have the patience for long hours of surveillance or 'really handling 'domestic violence' (politically correct term for spousal abuse!), checking for prowlers, serving warrants and etc. There ARE a lot of damned good, dedicated cops out there. Having been in police work and my wife, who IS a police officer, I'm still 'involved' in it and get to see a lot. Theres and old saying about walking a mile in their shoes before judging. Seems as though, the only stories that make the press are the 'bad' ones. The stories about that small minority who has their head up their butt. The majority can't be judged by the 'few'. Let 'em do their job. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #9 January 3, 2005 Let 'em do their job. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Like Philly, Ruby Ridge and Waco? I talked many a senior officer and they say the training they (recruits) are getting is, borders on paranoia. They don't think much off it either. I've been standing around minding my own business waiting for my ride or whatever and been thrown up against a wall and searched w/o permission a few times and I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF IT. Gonna be a real police state (country) before long. THE good old USA. wooda thunkI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #10 January 3, 2005 What did the police have to do with Ruby Ridge and Waco? What incident are you referring to in Philly? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #11 January 3, 2005 Quote What did the police have to do with Ruby Ridge and Waco? What incident are you referring to in Philly? - Jim Every state has its own Waco/ruby ridge... The only way police will help the people get behind them is to go after the bad cops... Till they do... We will still have a poor outlook on the police... Killer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #12 January 3, 2005 QuoteI've been standing around minding my own business waiting for my ride or whatever and been thrown up against a wall and searched w/o permission a few times and I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF IT. You've been standing around, doing nothing wrong, and a cop has simply thrown you up against a wall and searched you? And this has happened many times? Tell us about a couple of them.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #13 January 3, 2005 and as long as that's all the press will write about is 'bad' cops, yeah, the public won't have a very high opinion of police. There's good and bad in everything. Politics, sports, pilots, machine operators... you name it. To 'generalize that all cops are bad, well, that's too bad. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 January 3, 2005 Dang-it! I was going to ask the same thing of him. The police, don't just grab someone and throw them against a wall, without provocation or 'probable cause'. Something triggered it. Ya' think? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #15 January 3, 2005 QuoteDang-it! I was going to ask the same thing of him. The police, don't just grab someone and throw them against a wall, without provocation or 'reasonable cause'. Something triggered it. Ya' think? Chuck Not always.....I find the reports on bad cops funny in the fact that they "always" back them up... The thin blue line.... I have friends that are in law inforcement.... They think the same way as me... Killer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #16 January 3, 2005 Interesting. Do they 'back them up' to the bitter end or, do they 'back them up' till they realize the officer(s) in question were in fact wrong? Cops are 'supposed' to support and back-up their fellow officers, sure. In a 'perfect world' in this country, everyone is considered 'innocent' till proven guilty. With the press and T.V. news, it's usually the other way around. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #17 January 3, 2005 Lets look at the cops in NYC that fu@ked a guy with a night stick and a mop handle.... Three cops were there when it happened and "EVERY ONE" in the place knew what had happened.... Not one cop can forward.... They all said? I don't know.... The one cop how told the truth was only doing it to save his own a$$.... thats the thin blue line for you... Now.... Are all cops like that? NO.... But till you clean-up the crap... It'll always smell Killer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #18 January 3, 2005 Yeah, the few that did that make all cops look bad. You're going to find 'crap' in every facet of our society. I don't care where you look... it's gonna be there. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #19 January 3, 2005 I understand that... I give a cop the respect he gives me... Be a a$$... I'll give it right back ten fold over... I don't back down... NEVER... Not in my blood.. Killer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #20 January 4, 2005 How many construction workers died while building homes for people to live in and buildings for people to work in? How many fishermen died trying to catch food for people to eat? Why do people make such a big deal about on-the-job deaths in this particular occupation but not others? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #21 January 4, 2005 QuoteHow many construction workers died while building homes for people to live in and buildings for people to work in? How many fishermen died trying to catch food for people to eat? Why do people make such a big deal about on-the-job deaths in this particular occupation but not others? Blues, Dave The police are here to protect and serve the public full time. With exceptions, when they die in the line of duty, it is usually no accident. This is what upsets the public. Logging leads as the most dangerous occupation. Nobody hears about them.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #22 January 4, 2005 2/3 die in trafic accidents only 1/3 die of gun shots... Sounds like they need Driver ED.... Killer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #23 January 4, 2005 Quote2/3 die in trafic accidents only 1/3 die of gun shots... Sounds like they need Driver ED.... Killer.... Well.. You got me. I wonder how many of the 2/3 were responding to a crime in progress or to another traffic accident (maybe another police accident).Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #24 January 4, 2005 Seventy-two local, state and federal officers died from traffic-related accidents while 57, about one-third, died from shootings... Source: Yahoo News Don't know were they were going? But they hit something Killer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justdumi 0 #25 January 4, 2005 QuoteSeventy-two local, state and federal officers died from traffic-related accidents while 57, Quote I thought all that crashing stuff only happened on LA Heat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
