This Just Boggles The Mind

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There's a big difference between covering someone who IS a direct threat, and someone you suspect may be a possible one.

Let's use the original scenario in this thread as an example; would I be less justified in taking that mans life than the police officer was? Would he have been less of a threat to me than he was to the police officer?

I think that you're operating under the assumption that everyone who holds a CCW permit is looking to be the next Wyat Earp. That's simply not true.

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[Kennedy 0]

He explained the drill directly based on the preceeding posts.

The Teuller Drill is meant to show that a person can close with and strike you in the same time or less than it takes you to draw and fire.

The lessons that you can take from this are as varied as the... colorful statements people make after they screw it up the first time and "die."

What I take away from the drill is that footwork is equally as important as practicing the draw. For responding officers, who can't always move the same ways, it justifies drawing or resting a hand on the grip. For injured or less mobile people, it can show that the gun is not always the best choice in a violent attack. For homeowners with an intruder, it shows why the gun is out and ready.

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Don't misquote me. There's a big difference between covering someone who IS a direct threat, and someone you suspect may be a possible one.

And what else would you consider someone who has broken into your house? The Tooth Fairy?

I interpreted your statement as a general one concerning people you think may be a threat. In case of home invasion I dont have a problem since its pretty clear that they ARE a threat.

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I interpreted your statement as a general one concerning people you think may be a threat. In case of home invasion I dont have a problem since its pretty clear that they ARE a threat.

Right, understood - but why would you 'cover' someone that wasn't a threat? Believe it or not, legal gun owners are not vigilantes or Rambos, regardless of what the press (or the Brady bunch) say.

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I interpreted your statement as a general one concerning people you think may be a threat. In case of home invasion I dont have a problem since its pretty clear that they ARE a threat.

Right, understood - but why would you 'cover' someone that wasn't a threat? Believe it or not, legal gun owners are not vigilantes or Rambos, regardless of what the press (or the Brady bunch) say.

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"Used to show *WHY* you should cover a possible assailant rather than waiting for them to make the first move."

I interpretd "possible" to mean possible as opposed to actual, and "you" to mean the reader. Simple misunderstanding, like I thru X meaning piggies.

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"Officer why did you shoot the suspect 6 times? Because I couldn't reload fast enough!"

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Not saying this cop should be charged with murder at all. But one has to wonder if a tazer would have been better used here than on a grandmother?

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The problem with the Tazer is that it can be defeated by a jacket or even a heavy shirt in some cases. The barbs have to hit the skin to transfer the charge.

Mike
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[Ron 10]

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But one has to wonder if a tazer would have been better used here than on a grandmother?

A tazer?

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Police say Clancy, brandishing a hatchet in one hand and a knife in the other, came at the officer, and the officer shot him.

This guy had TWO lethal weapons.

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One of the first rules: An officer can use deadly force whenever a person appears to be a threat to him or herself, someone else, or the officer.

A guy charging me with TWO lethal weapons is a danger in my opinion.

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But for some, the violent death of a teenager who had not been known as a troublemaker

A 19 year old with a history of violence charging at me with TWO lethal weapons.

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We're talking about a 19-year-old kid with a knife and an officer with a gun

A 19 year old with a history of violence charging at a cop with TWO lethal weapons....I would have shot him also.

A tazer is for NON lethal threats....A guy running at me with TWO lethal weapons does not fit that situation.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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The problem with the Tazer is that it can be defeated by a jacket or even a heavy shirt in some cases. The barbs have to hit the skin to transfer the charge.

Just a week ago I was wandering through a mall and noticed several cops with Tazers. I couldn't help but think that given my jacket, sweater, and tshirt that those Tazers would liikely be completely ineffective against me and the majority of the mall population at the time.

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The problem with the Tazer is that it can be defeated by a jacket or even a heavy shirt in some cases. The barbs have to hit the skin to transfer the charge.

Just a week ago I was wandering through a mall and noticed several cops with Tazers. I couldn't help but think that given my jacket, sweater, and tshirt that those Tazers would liikely be completely ineffective against me and the majority of the mall population at the time.

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Jim

And so began what has henceforth been known as the Jimbo Mall Rampage.

[Jimbo 0]

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And so began what has henceforth been known as the Jimbo Mall Rampage

Shhh!

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The problem with the Tazer is that it can be defeated by a jacket or even a heavy shirt in some cases. The barbs have to hit the skin to transfer the charge.

Our officers (remember I live in Canada and we wear thick winter coats for fair number of months) are pretty successful with them.

As a matter of fact, the red dots from the laser alone were enough for the Toronto swat team to deal with a not so happy customer in my mall this past week.