skybytch 273 #51 January 1, 2005 QuoteFEMA and other gov't resources do a great job of helping Americans in the aftermath of a disaster. As someone who attempted to get help from FEMA after Hurricane Jeanne and got nothing but an application for an SBA loan that I couldn't complete because all my financial records drowned (not to mention the fact that I couldn't possibly afford to repay a loan anyway)... I call bullshit on that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #52 January 1, 2005 why can't Dad get a job at McD's until something better comes along. Beats unemployment, right------------------------------------------------------------------ My enemployment is 410 a week. Yeah right Edit to add. I read that wrong. If I had NO unemployment I would do whatever it took to put food on the tableI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #53 January 2, 2005 It is also worth noting that the assistance that is given is given for the benefit of those that are still working, and not for those that are unemployed. If the unemployed do not continue contributing money to the economy, far more money is lost than what is being paid in assistance. The general rule of thumb is that each dollar spent ultimately contributes seven dollars to the economy. We give assistance so that the economy doesn't lose those seven dollars, which would undoubtedly contribute to even more unemployment.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #54 January 2, 2005 Quoteall I am saying is there are jobs here in florida. I've yet to find anyone willing to hire a thirty-something college student at a living wage and the flexibility necessary to work around my school schedule. Especially in Florida. And while I go to school, I am ineligible for unemployment benefits because I am not available to work any hours 24/7.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #55 January 2, 2005 QuoteFEMA and other gov't resources do a great job of helping Americans in the aftermath of a disaster. Did you know that in most cases FEMA requires you to rebuild in the same location to qualify for disaster relief funds? So all those houses you see getting flooded? They have to be rebuilt in the flood plain if people want federal dollars to help. If the people want to, say, rebuild on a hill where the house won't be flooded next time? No help for that--it would make too much sense.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #56 January 2, 2005 QuoteI've yet to find anyone willing to hire a thirty-something college student at a living wage tell me what you think is a living wage? Quoteflexibility necessary to work around my school schedule. how about setting up school around a work schedule. Quote I am ineligible for unemployment benefits because I am not available to work any hours 24/7. like I said there are plenty of jobs here you could do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #57 January 2, 2005 Quote tell me what you think is a living wage? Something that will pay my rent, food, transportation expenses, as well as a small additional amount to cover other expenses, such as clothing or medicinal expenses. The exact amount necessary depends on where I am living. Quotehow about setting up school around a work schedule. I wish it were that easy, but a substantial percentage of my classes only have one section available, even with early registartion (ie not due to my own procrastination). For example, the only Calculus III class available at my school is an early-mid morning section, while the only differential equations class available is an evening class. If I could schedule my classes to be more work friendly, I would, but that is not currently an option. Quotelike I said there are plenty of jobs here you could do. That is easy to say, but the current job market just does not support that idea. I have an excellent work ethic, and have good references from previous supervisors, but that is not enough.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #58 January 3, 2005 QuoteI've yet to find anyone willing to hire a thirty-something college student at a living wage and the flexibility necessary to work around my school schedule. Especially in Florida. And while I go to school, I am ineligible for unemployment benefits because I am not available to work any hours 24/7. I have about 40 of them at my work. Of course you have to be willing to actually work."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #59 January 3, 2005 QuoteThat is easy to say, but the current job market just does not support that idea. I have an excellent work ethic, and have good references from previous supervisors, but that is not enough. Bullshit. I work for a company that loves college kids...They even pay 3500 a year for them to go to school.....Of course you have to actually work."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #60 January 3, 2005 Quotehow about setting up school around a work schedule. I don't think you know how absolutely hard that is. Many classes are offered once a year (only one of the semesters) and only have one section. So you HAVE to bend to the school's way due to them not giving a shit about the students. Schools don't care about students, they care about money, end of story.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #61 January 3, 2005 tell me what you think is a living wage?=====================================I make 32 an hr an can barely survive. I feel for the really poor people out there. I sure ain't able to buy a new house or car w/o signing my life away.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #62 January 3, 2005 You make $66,560 per year and you can barely survive? You can't blame that one on the government or the economy. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #63 January 3, 2005 QuoteYou make $66,560 per year and you can barely survive? Hell, I'm living on well under $20k a year right now. Then again, I don't have kids and I don't have the money to do many things, but I'm definately getting by.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #64 January 3, 2005 you know what taxes are in Ca.? That's just a startI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #65 January 3, 2005 Quoteyou know what taxes are in Ca.? That's just a start Yeah, at 9.3% income tax > $40,000 they're high. Delaware is high too with expensive real estate to boot. I have friends who make less than you do and seem to live pretty decent lives even with the burden of home ownership. So, tell me again how $66,560 per year (that doesn't include the cost your company is paying in benefits) is just barely enough to get by. I want to hear it. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #66 January 3, 2005 Quotetell me what you think is a living wage?=====================================I make 32 an hr an can barely survive. I feel for the really poor people out there. I sure ain't able to buy a new house or car w/o signing my life away. Funny I make it fine and able to sky dive in florida on much less. I will be debt free other than my home this year and should own my home in a couple more. Life never promised you a new car or home. Debt free living is real freedom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #67 January 3, 2005 Quote you know what taxes are in Ca.? What are taxes in CA? My point is there's always a way, I doubt you pay $40k in taxes every year. For instance right now, I've incurred more CC debt then I can maintain, so I'm working on cleaning up my credit and paying off my cards (then canceling all but one). That means I don't get to go out much and my "crazy enjoyment" now consists of cheaper food and nearly no eating out (except for the occasion $8 lunch at my favorite place, Freebirds). All it takes is motivation (and no kids).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #68 January 3, 2005 Do what I did - quit your bitching, suck it up and take out a shitload of loans. I went through private school that way. The first 5 years after school my loan payments and living expenses took up every cent I made, and then some. I've still got a few years left before its all paid off.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #69 January 3, 2005 QuoteI don't think you know how absolutely hard that is. well school bus drivers work 4:30-5am to 8-9ish and 1-5pm ish as a sub they will work with you. I have not been to school in a while but never knew any that started at 5-6am I am not saying it is ez just that it can be done. I work 5am to 2pm then drive bus from 2-5 or 6pm why because they need people and I like overtime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #70 January 3, 2005 In this town, there are plenty of jobs that will work with you and your school schedule, the problem is its a town with a student population of over 45,000 , plus another 80,000 regular residents. So basically 99% of those jobs pay you roughly $6 an hour. That's a whole lot of work and worry for not much money. Working at a DZ has been very good to me in this regard. As long as the weather is good, business is good (for the most part) and the money is decent (good compared to the rest of the jobs available). Another good job is working as a night person for FedEx or UPS. Decent pay (for the kind of woirk) and its in the middle of the night/early morning. The flip side is that any sort of job does severely interfer with your studies, unless you're only taking 6hr of classes or somthing like that, then it'll take you 9 years to finish school.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccurley 1 #71 January 3, 2005 Quoteat 9.3% income tax > $40,000 You luky lucky bastard New Zealand 19.5% for the first 38,000 33.0% between that and 60,000 39.0% above that. Oh ya then there is the 12.5% GST ontop of almost everything else you canspend your remaining dollars on. This means on my 45,000 wage, I get to spend 69.7 cents of each dollar after the Gov't gets it's share! This of course is over simplfied and dosen't account for things like fuel tax, or road user fees for diesle powered vehicles like mine. But we are still happy to live here.Watch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #72 January 3, 2005 QuoteThe flip side is that any sort of job does severely interfer with your studies, unless you're only taking 6hr of classes or somthing like that, then it'll take you 9 years to finish school. Life is a trade off. If you wanted to be a AC tech down here in florida I know where you can pay $300 and work days for a heating and AC company go to school one night a week and in 3 years you are a journeyman HVAC repair person. $300 for a career is cheap. Or you could mary a rich female that owns a dz and live the life Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #73 January 3, 2005 Quote Or you could mary a rich female that owns a dz and live the life Yup, I'm still hoping that Morgan win's the lottery and opens a DZ...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #74 January 3, 2005 QuoteYup, I'm still hoping that Morgan win's the lottery and opens a DZ... LOL I'm with ya bro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #75 January 3, 2005 QuoteBullshit. I work for a company that loves college kids...They even pay 3500 a year for them to go to school.....Of course you have to actually work. So you are saying I do not have a good work ethic or good references? That's dangerously close to a personal attack, Ron. And you may find this hard to believe, but Z-Hills is way too far for me to commute practically. Nor is relocating for a job practical while I attend classes.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
