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QuoteNo. Stupid dog owners should be banned.
I've known a lot of great pit bulls. But then, they had great owners.
**Stands up and applauds** Agreed!
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QuoteQuoteI can say the only thing that makes a bad dog is a bad owner.
Very true. I have an Akita, 115lb female, this breed is known to be an agressive breed, yet my dog is so freaking sweet and gentle. Gentle enough to do hospital therapy with kids and senior citizens. Little kids think she's a bear, funniest thing I've ever seen. It's all on how you raise them.
Akita's rock! I had 2 - male and female. They never realized they were not lap dogs and puppies despite the fact the male weighed 120 lbs. and the female 85 lbs.
Had the meanest bark but were the biggest babies. I miss my babies. ![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]"){kind=small}
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while breeding can play a part A BREED is not at fault. You can breed in or out agressiveness to an extent. Those agressive breeds were deliberately bred that way at one point in time. You can have very lovable, docile pit bulls, rotties, dobbermans, akitas, german shepards - you name it just like you can have vicious collies, labs and retrievers.
What you usually have is negligent and stupid owners as well as just plain sadistic owners.
Shit... why'd I even start thinking about this...
What you usually have is negligent and stupid owners as well as just plain sadistic owners.
Shit... why'd I even start thinking about this...
Absolutely not. Pits are great dogs, anyone who assumes they are vicious because of their breed is simply ignorant. Any dog, regardless of breed, is only as dangerous as his/her owner allows it to be. Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner most often is responsible... not the breed, and not the dog.
This is another example of "blame the dog." Dogs are naturally carnivores who have developed to be able to kill their food. Some are better at killing than others.
Think of it like a Dalmation. A great dog, so long as you put in the time. They NEED attention or else they will go crazy and start destroying things and making lots of noise. Good owners train and control their dogs.
Same with pit bulls. Sure, every dog may snap at the wrong moment. Pit bulls are just easier to get there. So if you're in a situation where there will be some kids around (i.e., toddlers who grab everything) then you should look for a Golden Retriever. If you can be on your own and want to protect your property, get a pitbull.
And name the pitbull "Daisy" or "Fifi" to put people at ease, and not "killer" or "Cujo" or anything.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
Think of it like a Dalmation. A great dog, so long as you put in the time. They NEED attention or else they will go crazy and start destroying things and making lots of noise. Good owners train and control their dogs.
Same with pit bulls. Sure, every dog may snap at the wrong moment. Pit bulls are just easier to get there. So if you're in a situation where there will be some kids around (i.e., toddlers who grab everything) then you should look for a Golden Retriever. If you can be on your own and want to protect your property, get a pitbull.
And name the pitbull "Daisy" or "Fifi" to put people at ease, and not "killer" or "Cujo" or anything.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
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Many times they do escape and are part of horrific maulings.
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the only time you see this breed in the news is when something bad happens, you never hear about the thousands of them that are not causing any problems...... cause we all know that bad news sells.
my stafforshire terrier, all 85 lbs of him has been invited back to every dropzone he has been to.
Roy
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the only time you see this breed in the news is when something bad happens, you never hear about the thousands of them that are not causing any problems...... cause we all know that bad news sells.
my stafforshire terrier, all 85 lbs of him has been invited back to every dropzone he has been to.
Roy
They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.
But does he jump?Quotemy stafforshire terrier, all 85 lbs of him has been invited back to every dropzone he has been to.
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Interesting that you asked this question today. I just read this article in the paper this morning:
COMMENTARY: MIKE THOMAS
Killer canines' carnage needs to be stopped
Mike Thomas
December 28, 2004
Intelligent Design.
The premise is that our world and surrounding universe have been so well orchestrated that it could not have been the result of happenstance. A being of immense intellectual capabilities had to put it all together.
One argument for this theory is the beautiful efficiency of the animal kingdom. Animals take only what they need. They don't kill needlessly.
Unless, of course, people tinker with Intelligent Design.
That is what we have done with the pit bull. We redesigned this dog through selective breeding. We made a dog that would go into a pit and tear another dog to shreds.
We created a crazed little Cujo with a ticking time bomb buried deep in its genetic code. And when the bomb goes off, the dog goes off.
It does what nature never intended an animal to do. It mauls and kills for absolutely no reason. And now that the pits have been shut down, the victims often are children.
So we read about the kind of tragic story that hit earlier this month. A beautiful 4-year-old boy in Orlando was killed by three pit bull mixed-breeds.
In October, pit bulls killed an 8-year-old boy in Tampa, and another severely bit a 9-month-old girl in Orange County.
Remember the 8-year-old boy mauled last year on the playground at Ridgewood Park Elementary School by a pit bull mix? It tore his ear off.
Pit bulls are not normal. They are mutations injected into Intelligent Design. Breeders transferred our dark, violent sides into man's best friend and turned it into an enemy.
I checked news reports for this month alone. A 5-year-old boy was killed by "pit-bull type" dogs in Arizona. An owner in Colorado was sentenced to six years in jail after her three pit bulls killed a 40-year-old woman. A pit bull mauled a 4-year-old girl in Tennessee. A pit bull killed a 34-day-old baby in Mississippi after pulling her off her mother's bed. The dog's owner said it had never before shown signs of aggressiveness.
How many times have you heard that one? He was such a nice doggy. Then that nasty little genetic bomb inside it detonated. As the carnage continues, we hear the same refrain from supporters of the breed. It's not the dogs. It's how you raise them.
Nurturing can trump nature.
Have you ever owned a Labrador? Did you raise it to obsessively chase those balls and sticks?
The urge was bred into them. If you never threw a ball for that retriever to chase, the genetic message that tells it to do so would not vanish. It would simply sit dormant, waiting for a chance to express itself.
When dogs have been bred to fight, it is common sense that a disproportionate number of them will attack. The data back that up.
Making matters worse, the reputation of pit bulls means they often attract the wrong owners -- the wrong people owning the wrong dogs for the wrong reasons.
The rights of even the responsible owners to keep a particular breed of dog do not transcend the rights of parents to raise their children without fear of them becoming prey for mutant urban predators.
Orlando firefighters have seen enough carnage and want the city to ban or restrict ownership of pit bulls.
Hopefully their stand now will spur government by Intelligent Design on the City Council.
Mike Thomas can be reached at 407-420-5525 or mthomas@orlandosentinel.com.
COMMENTARY: MIKE THOMAS
Killer canines' carnage needs to be stopped
Mike Thomas
December 28, 2004
Intelligent Design.
The premise is that our world and surrounding universe have been so well orchestrated that it could not have been the result of happenstance. A being of immense intellectual capabilities had to put it all together.
One argument for this theory is the beautiful efficiency of the animal kingdom. Animals take only what they need. They don't kill needlessly.
Unless, of course, people tinker with Intelligent Design.
That is what we have done with the pit bull. We redesigned this dog through selective breeding. We made a dog that would go into a pit and tear another dog to shreds.
We created a crazed little Cujo with a ticking time bomb buried deep in its genetic code. And when the bomb goes off, the dog goes off.
It does what nature never intended an animal to do. It mauls and kills for absolutely no reason. And now that the pits have been shut down, the victims often are children.
So we read about the kind of tragic story that hit earlier this month. A beautiful 4-year-old boy in Orlando was killed by three pit bull mixed-breeds.
In October, pit bulls killed an 8-year-old boy in Tampa, and another severely bit a 9-month-old girl in Orange County.
Remember the 8-year-old boy mauled last year on the playground at Ridgewood Park Elementary School by a pit bull mix? It tore his ear off.
Pit bulls are not normal. They are mutations injected into Intelligent Design. Breeders transferred our dark, violent sides into man's best friend and turned it into an enemy.
I checked news reports for this month alone. A 5-year-old boy was killed by "pit-bull type" dogs in Arizona. An owner in Colorado was sentenced to six years in jail after her three pit bulls killed a 40-year-old woman. A pit bull mauled a 4-year-old girl in Tennessee. A pit bull killed a 34-day-old baby in Mississippi after pulling her off her mother's bed. The dog's owner said it had never before shown signs of aggressiveness.
How many times have you heard that one? He was such a nice doggy. Then that nasty little genetic bomb inside it detonated. As the carnage continues, we hear the same refrain from supporters of the breed. It's not the dogs. It's how you raise them.
Nurturing can trump nature.
Have you ever owned a Labrador? Did you raise it to obsessively chase those balls and sticks?
The urge was bred into them. If you never threw a ball for that retriever to chase, the genetic message that tells it to do so would not vanish. It would simply sit dormant, waiting for a chance to express itself.
When dogs have been bred to fight, it is common sense that a disproportionate number of them will attack. The data back that up.
Making matters worse, the reputation of pit bulls means they often attract the wrong owners -- the wrong people owning the wrong dogs for the wrong reasons.
The rights of even the responsible owners to keep a particular breed of dog do not transcend the rights of parents to raise their children without fear of them becoming prey for mutant urban predators.
Orlando firefighters have seen enough carnage and want the city to ban or restrict ownership of pit bulls.
Hopefully their stand now will spur government by Intelligent Design on the City Council.
Mike Thomas can be reached at 407-420-5525 or mthomas@orlandosentinel.com.
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
Eh. . .no. I had a pitbull in college. She was a really sweet dog and very obedient.
. . . .I thinkoccasionally there are bad eggs in every bunch. I think any dog that shows a dangerous mean streak should be dealt with.
. . . .I thinkoccasionally there are bad eggs in every bunch. I think any dog that shows a dangerous mean streak should be dealt with.
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But does he jump? ***
LOL, cant seem to find anyone willing to take him on a tandem or AFF.....
Roy
LOL, cant seem to find anyone willing to take him on a tandem or AFF.....
Roy
They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.
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QuoteOntario became the first in the country to seek a provincewide ban on pit bulls, Staffordshire terriers and other similar breeds this summer after a 25-year-old man was almost eaten alive by two pit bulls. Police needed more than a dozen bullets to kill the frenzied animals, which turned on the man during a neighbourhood walk and left him with extensive leg, back and arm injuries.
New Brunswick began public hearings in November on a possible law to restrict dogs such as Rottweilers, Japanese akitas and pit bulls to address lingering dismay over the gruesome death of four-year-old James Waddell, killed by rottweillers last year.
A disturbing story in Cambridge, Ont., involved a dog that mauled a 12-year-old paper boy. The animal was initially referred to as an American Staffordshire but the humane society later said it was actually a mix of several breeds that may have included a whippet, great Dane and Dalmatian.
It also turned out that the animal had a violent history, having attacked four other dogs before chewing on the face of Ricardo Ramirez on Nov. 16.
"Kids were literally having their faces ripped off. We had to do something to stop that."
Do you know if there is specific training taught to children, on how to deal with an attack? Do you roll yourself into a ball protecting your face- ears- and head, and stop any movement or do you get big and yell and scream, run??????
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