kallend 2,147 #1 December 25, 2004 I watched the movie (1951 version, Alastair Sim as Ebeneezer Scrooge) last night. Its amusing just how much (many of) those on the right sound like Scrooge. Even more amusing is how much some can be like Scrooge while also professing Christian ideals.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #2 December 25, 2004 Should I make up a story that i just saw the old version of The Wizard of Oz, then comment on how much some on the left sound like the tin man before he got a brain? As to your little christians and christmas comment, just llok to some of your buds on the left to explain that one. According to recent posts, most christian holidays, especially christmas, are nothign more than hijacked pagan celebrations. In that case, isn't it the true christians who would forsake the jolly old fat man for a hearty "Bah, Humbug?" ps - Merry Christmas, professorwitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #3 December 25, 2004 QuoteI watched the movie (1951 version, Alastair Sim as Ebeneezer Scrooge) last night. Its amusing just how much (many of) those on the right sound like Scrooge. Even more amusing is how much some can be like Scrooge while also professing Christian ideals. Many on the right along with GWB insist that individual charity rather than government support is the way to go. In the mid-19th century the only real hope for the poor was from individual contributions to charity. The government gave them the bare minimum and sometimes not even that. So when Scrooge insisted that he didn't need to personally contribute since the government was providing workhouses, did that make him more of a right-winger or left-winger by today's standards? Merry Christmas! Wayne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #4 December 25, 2004 QuoteShould I make up a story that i just saw the old version of The Wizard of Oz, then comment on how much some on the left sound like the tin man before he got a brain? As to your little christians and christmas comment, just llok to some of your buds on the left to explain that one. According to recent posts, most christian holidays, especially christmas, are nothign more than hijacked pagan celebrations. In that case, isn't it the true christians who would forsake the jolly old fat man for a hearty "Bah, Humbug?" ps - Merry Christmas, professor Merry Christmas to you too! No reason not to celebrate the Winter Solstice for whatever reason (mumbles something about roses by any other name...)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #5 December 25, 2004 It appears someone received a bag of coal today. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #6 December 25, 2004 QuoteIt appears someone received a bag of coal today. FallRate Good one...... Merry Christmas...whether you celebrate it or not...~R+R...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #7 December 25, 2004 QuoteIt appears someone received a bag of coal today. FallRate Serious thread drift there. What does Rumsfeld's present have to do with Charles Dickens?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #8 December 26, 2004 Seeing as Rummy is part of the Big-Oil Crowd, he probably wouldn't be offended by a bag of coal. I'd bet if you threw in a gallon of crude he'd take it as the modern equivalent of frankincense and mur. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #9 December 27, 2004 So are you saying that Christians that celebrate Christmas are not true Christians?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #10 December 27, 2004 QuoteSo are you saying that Christians that celebrate Christmas are not true Christians? I don't know what he's saying. What I'm saying is that many self proclaimed Christians do not follow the teachings of Jesus AT ALL in their attitudes and actions. Those who proclaim their religion most loudly often seem the least likely to live by it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #11 December 27, 2004 QuoteI don't know what he's saying. What I'm saying is that many self proclaimed Christians do not follow the teachings of Jesus AT ALL in their attitudes and actions. Those who proclaim their religion most loudly often seem the least likely to live by it. And thats new how? The same could be said for the Liberals that don't open their doors to the poor. Or that claim they want to help, but vote against paying for it. Hypocrisy knows no bounds."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #12 December 27, 2004 QuoteQuoteI don't know what he's saying. What I'm saying is that many self proclaimed Christians do not follow the teachings of Jesus AT ALL in their attitudes and actions. Those who proclaim their religion most loudly often seem the least likely to live by it. And thats new how? The same could be said for the Liberals that don't open their doors to the poor. Or that claim they want to help, but vote against paying for it. Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Liberals, on the whole, didn't vote to have their taxes reduced. The Christian Right did, though.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #13 December 27, 2004 QuoteThe Christian Right did, though. ------------------------------------------ Wow hows about them stereotypes?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #14 December 27, 2004 Pot...meet kettle. Kettle...meet pot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #15 December 27, 2004 I was pointing out a possible explanation offered up by a liberal poster in another thread. Kallend, if you're going to suggest that the bible is nto fact, but rather analogy, perhaps you shouldn't condemn others who interpret it differently than you do. ps - yes, there are some Christians who condemn the christmas holiday (they also don't like the conventional cross and a number of other "christian" symbols)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #16 December 28, 2004 QuoteI was pointing out a possible explanation offered up by a liberal poster in another thread. Kallend, if you're going to suggest that the bible is nto fact, but rather analogy, perhaps you shouldn't condemn others who interpret it differently than you do. ps - yes, there are some Christians who condemn the christmas holiday (they also don't like the conventional cross and a number of other "christian" symbols) I don't see much room for interpretation in the Sermon on the Mount. Pretty straightforward exposition of the teaching of Jesus.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #17 December 28, 2004 Well, if you don't like it, "judge not lest ye be judged." witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #18 December 28, 2004 12 Days of Kwanza Bwahahahaha!!! Hopefully not a repost. If so, I appologize. New to me, though. Hillarious! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #19 December 28, 2004 Glad to see you feel noble for espousing a philosophy based on using government goons to forcibly seize other people's money to salve your own conscience. Real charity is freely given. There is no holiness in taking other people's hard-earned money with no regard for their situations to be spent by unaccountable government bureaucracies based on who's got the best pr people. And you call yourself an anarchist?!? Christ, Godwin must be spinning is his grave.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #20 December 28, 2004 QuoteI don't know what he's saying. What I'm saying is that many self proclaimed Christians do not follow the teachings of Jesus AT ALL in their attitudes and actions. Those who proclaim their religion most loudly often seem the least likely to live by it. I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice that.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #21 December 28, 2004 QuotePot...meet kettle. Kettle...meet pot. So, did you vote for Gore or Nader in 2000?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #22 December 28, 2004 There is a reason why states with higher taxes have better healthcare, education, etc. than their low tax counterparts. Well spent taxes buy, less expensively than an individual would otherwise have to pay, things that the individual would otherwise have to buy him/herself.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #23 December 28, 2004 QuoteThere is a reason why states with higher taxes have better healthcare, education, etc. than their low tax counterparts. Well spent taxes buy, less expensively than an individual would otherwise have to pay, things that the individual would otherwise have to buy him/herself. You mean like TennCare? [sarcasm]Yes, the government is well known for making great purchasing decisions[/sarcasm]. Government spending is based on who's representative has the most seniority and power in whatever legislative body is controlling the money. Taxes are rarely well spent. You think a government body in a far-away land run by fossils beholden to lobbyists and special interest groups can spend a family's money better than that family can themselves? Get real. If that's true, maybe we should just give ALL of our money to the government, then they can take care of everything for us.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #24 December 28, 2004 QuoteGlad to see you feel noble for espousing a philosophy based on using government goons to forcibly seize other people's money to salve your own conscience. Real charity is freely given. There is no holiness in taking other people's hard-earned money with no regard for their situations to be spent by unaccountable government bureaucracies based on who's got the best pr people. And you call yourself an anarchist?!? Christ, Godwin must be spinning is his grave. You seem to have a poor knowledge of the teachings of Jesus. A TRUE Christian pays up willingly: Luke 20:25 "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's."... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #25 December 28, 2004 So according to you it is better to have a bureaucracy that syphons off money that would have gone to charity? I happen to believe that giving to charity should only involve a person and the chairty he wants to give to. I don't see the advantage of pying out hundreds of millions of dollars to the government so it can waste money and not be held responsible. If a charity wasted the way the government does, no one would give thema dime. However the state can take it by force, and they do. I don't believe in socialism. It is incompatable with liberty.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
