Skyrad 0 #51 January 2, 2005 Oil?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigwallmaster 0 #52 January 3, 2005 Take advantage of what? In what way? Having our troops overseas gives them no strategic advantage. You said it yourself; it only takes a few of them to pull off something major. Doesn't matter where our troops are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #53 January 3, 2005 QuoteTake advantage of what? In what way? Having our troops overseas gives them no strategic advantage. You said it yourself; it only takes a few of them to pull off something major. Doesn't matter where our troops are. Think about how useful it would be if those hundreds thousands soldiers you have over Irak where put on every plane, train or boat in the U.S, or in every corner for that matter. True that if they were not in Irak, they could be still doing thinks that do not hinder terrorism, but where you have them now, for sure will not do anything to prevent terrorism. Furthermore, with all the "mistakes" the U.S. military is doing in Irak, not only you do not prevent terrorism, but you polarized some who may have remained neutral to take on terrorism. And some of those, could already be in the U.S, as legal citizens. Did you know that many of the terrorist who commited the Madrid attack where legal residents? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #54 January 3, 2005 >And where would you rather fight these crazy fuckers, over there, or on U.S. streets? The more you kick the hornet's nest, the more likely they are to sting you AND to spread out and sting others. I doubt terrorist organizations will be as obedient as you expect them to be. >But think about how many of these young radicals we would have planning >attacks against U.S. cities, if we didn't have this war to distract them. Think about how many young radicals we have created by killing their parents. Who's more likely to attack the US, someone who dislikes the US because of pictures in a magazine or someone who dislikes the US because a US bomb killed their family? To put it another way - did your view of these terrorists change on 9/11? Did their killing of 3000 americans change what you wanted to do to them? Iraqis are not that different from americans. Your views tend to change when a foreign power invades and kills 10,000 of your countrymen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigwallmaster 0 #55 January 3, 2005 I don't disagree with anything you have said here. My response was simply intended to outline yet another theory as to why we are there. So far the most popular reasons seem to be Oil, Corporate exploitation, the Bush agenda (ie. revenge), promotion of democracy (he he yeah right!), Al Queda, and prevention of terrorism. To be honest with you all, I think these are all truly reasons we are there, whether right or wrong. I think the scariest thing of all, is that Bush truly does believe that if we establish democracy there, that the rest of the region will be stabilized as a result. That's bullshit and we all know it. There is alot of Muslims (certainly not all of them) that view democracy as the "Christian" form of government. That in and of itself spells trouble for a long time to come. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #56 January 3, 2005 QuoteI think the scariest thing of all, is that Bush truly does believe that if we establish democracy there, that the rest of the region will be stabilized as a result. The enantiodromic version of the Domino Theory?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites