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Quoteso if a celebrity cares about our troops it a nice gesture, but if a politician cares about our troops they are only doing it to further their career.
No one said that. In fact, it doesn't even make sense.
In this case, he either genuinely cares, or doesn't care and is simply doing PR work.
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And even if you are right(which I seriously think your not)and he was just doing it for PR, I'm sure it made those soldiers he visited feel a little better for the holidays, so who cares.
I would think that whether or not his visit makes a soldier feel better depends upon what that soldier believes Rumsfeld's motives are.
At anyrate, don't confuse the animosity some of us have for certain politicians with how we feel about the soldiers!
I'm gratefull to all the soldiers, and hope you come home safe.
-Josh
If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me*
*Ron has accused me of plagiarizing this quote. He attributes it to Douglas Adams.
*Ron has accused me of plagiarizing this quote. He attributes it to Douglas Adams.
QuoteQuoteso if a celebrity cares about our troops it a nice gesture, but if a politician cares about our troops they are only doing it to further their career.
No one said that. In fact, it doesn't even make sense.Quote
Got to hand it to Letterman... I appreciate him taking care of our troops...
Rumsfeld is after PR and only went after being accused of not caring enough...
these two people did the same thing, they visited the troops, but according to the original post only one of them was doing it for a good reason, The other one did it to further his career.Quote
And even if you are right(which I seriously think your not)and he was just doing it for PR, I'm sure it made those soldiers he visited feel a little better for the holidays, so who cares.
I would think that whether or not his visit makes a soldier feel better depends upon what that soldier believes Rumsfeld's motives are.
At anyrate, don't confuse the animosity some of us have for certain politicians with how we feel about the soldiers!***
I don't feel that this was an attack against the soldiers, I must have worded what i said wrong.
Rumsfeldis the SECDEF and really has no need to further his career, he is just showing that he cares about the troops that are affected by the decisions he makes.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower
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QuoteJust got off the phone with an enlisted man in Korea. He said that Rumsfeld has become very unpopular with the troops there.
If he's friends with and thinks anything like you, he probably doesn't like Rumsfeld. No surprise there.
However, I think you'd be hard pressed to try and show that the majority of the US military either doesn't support and like Rumsfeld, Bush, the current administration, or doesn't believe in the war that they're fighting right now. Think a friend of yours in Korea might be a biased sample? I think so. 
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QuoteQuoteJust got off the phone with an enlisted man in Korea. He said that Rumsfeld has become very unpopular with the troops there.
If he's friends with and thinks anything like you, he probably doesn't like Rumsfeld. No surprise there.
Six months ago he said R was very popular. Something's changed.
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QuoteRumsfeld is after PR and only went after being accused of not caring enough...
I seriously doubt that or the last time was Rumsfeld's only trips overseas to visit troops. He's been around a while. I'm sure it is good for PR but I also think he cares.
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QuoteSix months ago he said R was very popular. Something's changed.
Maybe within his group of friends. I'm not in the game right now (I was, though.) but I've got my own group of friends who currently are. They say just the opposite. I'm just saying that your opinion or that of your friends on this matter is probably not very accurate overall.
QuoteQuoteSix months ago he said R was very popular. Something's changed.
Maybe within his group of friends. I'm not in the game right now (I was, though.) but I've got my own group of friends who currently are. They say just the opposite. I'm just saying that your opinion or that of your friends on this matter is probably not very accurate overall.
All recently released troops that I have seen in my office do not talk positive about Rummy, Bush, Iraq or this administration. The only thing they talk positive about is Afghan.
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you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me....
I WILL fly again.....
you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me....
I WILL fly again.....
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QuoteAll recently released troops that I have seen in my office do not talk positive about Rummy, Bush, Iraq or this administration. The only thing they talk positive about is Afghan.
All of the polls that I saw recently showed that troops supported Bush, his administration, and policies something like 4 to 1. You must just have all the quitters and whinners coming through your office. Those who just thought they'd be getting risk-free college tuition paid for by just having to wear a camouflage uniform.
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All of the polls that I saw recently showed that troops supported Bush, his administration, and policies something like 4 to 1. You must just have all the quitters and whinners coming through your office. Those who just thought they'd be getting risk-free college tuition paid for by just having to wear a camouflage uniform.
Very true, could be. However there are a few that I know were not that way. I had one Marine that quit about 4 years from retirement because of his dislike of what Bush was doing.
BTW - you don't believe in what Bush says? Polls come and go and you can't trust/believe in them?
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you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me....
I WILL fly again.....
you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me....
I WILL fly again.....
QuoteVery true, could be. However there are a few that I know were not that way. I had one Marine that quit about 4 years from retirement because of his dislike of what Bush was doing.
Not very bright was it? But it is a free country. All the troops I know like Bush and believe in the current mission in Iraq. I did know one vet who didn't like Bush but felt he had to vote for Bush to keep kerry out.
The libs just have to push on all the fences; hoping what looks strong might just collapse i.e. Trent Lott. Can't blame them for trying but they need to remember who the enemy really is!
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