TheAnvil 0 #1 December 17, 2004 Clicky What an evil bastard to have done such a thing. Hope he's caught and dies soon. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 December 17, 2004 QuoteClicky What an evil bastard to have done such a thing. Hope he's caught and dies soon. How can you have an Amber Alert for a fetus? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #3 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteClicky What an evil bastard to have done such a thing. Hope he's caught and dies soon. How can you have an Amber Alert for a fetus? Not a fetus anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 December 17, 2004 I'm wondering if this is another of those cases where a desperate woman goes and steals a baby because she can't have one for some reason. Either way, the child needs hospital care soon if they want it to live.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #5 December 17, 2004 QuoteEither way, the child needs hospital care soon if they want it to live. Probably not at 8 months. It's probably a healthy baby doing fine as long as it's fed and kept warm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #6 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteEither way, the child needs hospital care soon if they want it to live. Probably not at 8 months. It's probably a healthy baby doing fine as long as it's fed and kept warm. The baby isn't 8 months old, the mother was 8 months pregnant when she was killed and the baby was removed from her womb. The baby needs to get to a hospital. Hope they catch the bad guys and I have a feeling they will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 December 17, 2004 Thsi has happened before. In the case I remember, the woman lived. What an unspeakably horrific crime... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #8 December 17, 2004 Assuming it survived.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #9 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteEither way, the child needs hospital care soon if they want it to live. Probably not at 8 months. It's probably a healthy baby doing fine as long as it's fed and kept warm. The baby isn't 8 months old, the mother was 8 months pregnant when she was killed and the baby was removed from her womb. The baby needs to get to a hospital. Hope they catch the bad guys and I have a feeling they will. He never said it was 8 months old. Some babies are born naturally at 8 months and manage just fine. Babies have been around a lot longer than hospitals have. This baby does need to get to a hospital, as a normal *precaution*. OTOH we don't know anything about how it was delivered, for example, if the mother was dead when the baby was delivered how long was the baby deprived of oxygen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #10 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteEither way, the child needs hospital care soon if they want it to live. Probably not at 8 months. It's probably a healthy baby doing fine as long as it's fed and kept warm. The baby isn't 8 months old, the mother was 8 months pregnant when she was killed and the baby was removed from her womb. The baby needs to get to a hospital. Hope they catch the bad guys and I have a feeling they will. Right. I said that wrong. My apologies. Anyway, 8 months gestation should be plenty cooking time to produce a viable baby. More than likely, I'd say the baby has a good chance. Unless it was deprived of oxygen for long enough during the procedure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #11 December 17, 2004 Just in (as of 2:30 mountain time) Police think they have found the baby alive in Kansas and are questioning 2 people that were with the baby.Vehicle at house in Kansas matches vehicle description seen leaving crime scene in Mo. Hope they've got themMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #12 December 17, 2004 Since the death penalty, while justifiable in this and other cases, costs taxpayers too much. I'd prefer to see this scum in prison forever, but subject to having his feces surgically removed from time to time by Bubba and his sharpened toothbrush.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #13 December 17, 2004 Dec 17, 5:26 PM EST Police Find Baby Believed From Slain Mom By MARGARET STAFFORD Associated Press Writer SKIDMORE, Mo. (AP) -- A baby girl who apparently was cut from her mother's womb was found in good health Friday, a day after the slaying, and two people were in custody, authorities said. Sheriff Ben Espey said authorities were awaiting DNA testing to confirm the newborn is the child of Bobbi Jo Stinnett, 23, an eight-months-pregrant factory worker found slain in her Missouri home Thursday. The child was found in neighboring eastern Kansas, state Bureau of Investigation spokesman Kyle Smith said. Missouri State Highway Patrol Sgt. Sheldon Lyon said authorities were questioning a man and a woman who were in the same place as where the baby was found. A red Honda hatchback matching a description offered earlier by police was in the driveway of the home. Espey believes Stinnett was likely strangled and resisted the attack. Authorities hoped that strands of hair found in the dead mother's hands will help find the killers. "The autopsy is going to show us there was some blond hair probably found in her hands," the sheriff said. "That would also help us with the DNA." Doctors said the baby could have suffered a variety of traumas during the assault, including a lack of oxygen. But the girl could likely survive if treated. "Ninety-five percent are going to do pretty well given a modest amount of medical attention," said Dr. Perry Clark, medical director of the neonatal intensive care unit at The University of Kansas Hospital. Espey said there was no indication of forced entry into Stinnett's small white home in this community of about 500 in the northwest corner of Missouri. A neighbor, Bill Dragoo, said Stinnett and her husband raised dogs and "didn't bother anybody. It blows my mind that this happened. She was such a shy person. They didn't deserve this." Espey said investigators knew Stinnett was still alive within an hour of being found around 3:30 p.m. Thursday. Paramedics tried to revive the young woman, who was pronounced dead later at a hospital. Espey was frustrated that it took hours for a statewide Amber Alert to be issued. It didn't appear until about 12:30 a.m. "We had a live baby, and I thought that should qualify as an Amber Alert," he said. "The information I was getting was that we didn't have enough information such as hair color, eye color, skin complexion, size and weight." Stinnett, married for little more than a year and expecting her first child, worked at an engine factory in nearby Maryville. Her husband was at work at the time she was killed, authorities said. Several pregnant women have been killed in recent years by attackers who then removed their fetuses, in some cases to pass the children off as their own. In the most recent case, a 21-year-old woman was shot to death in Oklahoma in December 2003, allegedly by another woman who pretended the 6-month-old fetus was her child. The fetus died and prosecutors are seeking the death penalty. © 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Learn more about our Privacy Policy.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #14 December 18, 2004 QuoteClicky What an evil bastard to have done such a thing. Hope he's caught and dies soon. This looks unlikely, Kansas just lost its death penalty. http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/17/kansas.death.penalty/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #15 December 18, 2004 QuoteThis looks unlikely, Kansas just lost its death penalty. But does Missouri still have it? That's the state of the crime, both the murder and kidnapping of the baby (and there's got to be some other crime in that...). So wouldn't it revert back to Missouri, and that state's law prevail? That's my understanding of it. How someone could do this is unthinkable, absolutely disgusting. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #16 December 18, 2004 Simon's around! YES! Oh well...perhaps they'll try the bastards in Missouri...sickening...I guess life without parole will be their fate otherwise... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #17 December 18, 2004 QuoteSimon's around! YES! Oh well...perhaps they'll try the bastards in Missouri...sickening...I guess life without parole will be their fate otherwise... Personally I think we should dig a big pit and drop these vermin in it. Just a hole with a grate over the top, cheap and easy to guard, you could drop food in until their appeals ran out and then let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #18 December 18, 2004 Sad part is that her mom was the one who found her. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #19 December 20, 2004 Quote A neighbor, Bill Dragoo, said Stinnett and her husband raised dogs and "didn't bother anybody. It blows my mind that this happened. She was such a shy person. They didn't deserve this." I always find this kind of response to be so incredibily insincere! As if any woman ever deserves to have her baby cut out of her! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ad151 0 #20 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteThis looks unlikely, Kansas just lost its death penalty. But does Missouri still have it? That's the state of the crime, both the murder and kidnapping of the baby (and there's got to be some other crime in that...). So wouldn't it revert back to Missouri, and that state's law prevail? That's my understanding of it. How someone could do this is unthinkable, absolutely disgusting. Ciels- Michele From CNN: "In this district, we have a history of seeking the death penalty in appropriate cases," Graves said. "It's not something we shy away from, but we're still a ways away from that decision."> I think its absurd that they can't charge her for murder, but understand the DA is probably going with the easiest charge for conviction with same penalty. A "kidnapping resulting in death" only charge is just rediculous IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #21 December 21, 2004 QuoteClicky What an evil bastard to have done such a thing. Hope he's caught and dies soon. Did you assume it was a male, or was that just a typo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
