jcd11235 0 #126 December 15, 2004 QuoteThat's because France and the terrorists are business partners. Laugh It is very easy to find business ties between Bush and the bin Laden family, as well as between Bush and the Saudi Royal family.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 618 #127 December 15, 2004 Why is it that people here spout so vehemently anti-europe/anti-USA? The US has an unfortunate public image problem that means that many people who have not been there absolutely hate the place, and yet when you go to the US and "see" what people are like it is completely different. I figure the same holds true in most of Europe (I have only been to Germany and Switzerland on mainland europe and there is no widespread animosity towards the USA. Jeez I figure ppl on speakers corner should get a handicap rating next to their name unless they have been where they are bashing.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #128 December 15, 2004 Sigh. Well Chris, then I guess you'd better be really damn clear in the distictions you draw. I didn't put words into your mouth, so stop accusing me. You said Nazis were bad because they were Nationalists, then you called patriots nationalists and ethnocentrists, and you didn't distinguish or clarify beyond that. Regardless of what you meant, that's what you wrote. If you'd like to amend yourself to be clearer, please do. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #129 December 15, 2004 QuoteIn that case, I'm on your side - pander away. It's gone nutty anyway. Rebecca - nice start, see what happens? How you doing lately? This road to hell is lined with my best intentions it seems! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #130 December 15, 2004 I miss the silent thread ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #131 December 15, 2004 > Why is it that people here spout so vehemently anti-europe/anti-USA? It's easy to hate things you don't understand and are not connected to. At the extreme, it's easy to say "nuke the motherfuckers!" a lot harder to say "nuke Mina and Ben and Ravi and Ali." When a country is reduced in someone's mind to a player in a political game, it's easy to forget that it is made up of people, people a whole lot like us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #132 December 15, 2004 QuoteThat's because France and the terrorists are business partners. If you guys would have listened to the French anti terrorism task forces warnings, who knows. You may still have a couple more towers standing in NYC... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #133 December 15, 2004 QuoteQuoteThat's because France and the terrorists are business partners. If you guys would have listened to the French anti terrorism task forces warnings, who knows. You may still have a couple more towers standing in NYC... If we had listened to our OWN warnings... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #134 December 15, 2004 ***Regardless of what you meant, that's what you wrote. If you'd like to amend yourself to be clearer, please do. Quote If you do not understand the difference, might I suggest a Philosophy course? I wrote exactly what I meant. If I had intended on calling Americans Nazis, I would not have minced words. If you read more into it then that is on you, but please don't claim I said it.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #135 December 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteThat's because France and the terrorists are business partners. Laugh It is very easy to find business ties between Bush and the bin Laden family, as well as between Bush and the Saudi Royal family. And Dubya's grandad and the Nazis and the Kennedies and organized crime.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #136 December 16, 2004 Quoteand the Kennedies and organized crime The who? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #137 December 16, 2004 I put the warning there for a reason. ....|| ....|| ..._||_ ...\||/ .....Vwitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #138 December 16, 2004 Quotethe Kennedies The who? (I couldn't resist)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites feuergnom 29 #139 December 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteok - just to chime in the author of the article is a complete whacko! the publisher of the newspaper is a rightwing fuckhead. My apologies for not checking his references. I just thought it was an interesting viewpoint to discuss. i guess there is no way to check the credibilty/quality/bias of some newspaer/magazie published in another country – apologies taken Quoteor an other example: would you argue over the statement that lets say howard stern represents the opinion of all u.s, citizens? – my guess is: if i posted this i'd get beat up verbally in seconds If he made a statement with any basis in reality concerning the state of affairs here or abroad, chances are, he would be representing a portion of the country's opinions. You can't say anyone represents the opinion of an entire nation, not really. That's why Christel's dismissal of the article as bs and non-German confused me. Is the whole nation really that unified in its viewpoint right now? (I'm asking seriously - last time I was there was '97) i have no idea if "the whole nation is unified in this viewpoint Quoteyes - "we", the europeans - have problems with radical muslims (so does the rest of the world rather apparently) . politics in most (european) countries has been week on these nutcases, letting them do their stuff mostly unwatched. after the murders in the netherlands there's a new process of thoight on this. as far as i understand the issue, there will be no more tolerance on any kind of extremism. my 2 (euro)cents: everybody is welcome to live in my country as long as they contribute to the community. i am strongly opposed to anybody seeking shelter and then working against the community/country/nation that gave it. AFAIK that is the line of thought starting to spread on a broad scale over here. This is exactly the sort of response I was looking for - thanks! Do you think security and vigilance has increased across the board since the murders? Do you think that neutrality on the part of non-involved EU countries has made you safer, or more vulnerable (perhaps viewed as weak by extremists?) so you were shopping for an answer?The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #140 December 16, 2004 Quoteso you were shopping for an answer? No! I was looking for a discussion, especially with someone living in Europe who has a first-hand perspective to offer in terms of the attitudes and opinions in your country and neighboring countries. I just wasn't getting any of those kinds of reponses. Shocking, huh? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 6 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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kallend 2,150 #135 December 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteThat's because France and the terrorists are business partners. Laugh It is very easy to find business ties between Bush and the bin Laden family, as well as between Bush and the Saudi Royal family. And Dubya's grandad and the Nazis and the Kennedies and organized crime.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #136 December 16, 2004 Quoteand the Kennedies and organized crime The who? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #137 December 16, 2004 I put the warning there for a reason. ....|| ....|| ..._||_ ...\||/ .....Vwitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #138 December 16, 2004 Quotethe Kennedies The who? (I couldn't resist)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #139 December 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteok - just to chime in the author of the article is a complete whacko! the publisher of the newspaper is a rightwing fuckhead. My apologies for not checking his references. I just thought it was an interesting viewpoint to discuss. i guess there is no way to check the credibilty/quality/bias of some newspaer/magazie published in another country – apologies taken Quoteor an other example: would you argue over the statement that lets say howard stern represents the opinion of all u.s, citizens? – my guess is: if i posted this i'd get beat up verbally in seconds If he made a statement with any basis in reality concerning the state of affairs here or abroad, chances are, he would be representing a portion of the country's opinions. You can't say anyone represents the opinion of an entire nation, not really. That's why Christel's dismissal of the article as bs and non-German confused me. Is the whole nation really that unified in its viewpoint right now? (I'm asking seriously - last time I was there was '97) i have no idea if "the whole nation is unified in this viewpoint Quoteyes - "we", the europeans - have problems with radical muslims (so does the rest of the world rather apparently) . politics in most (european) countries has been week on these nutcases, letting them do their stuff mostly unwatched. after the murders in the netherlands there's a new process of thoight on this. as far as i understand the issue, there will be no more tolerance on any kind of extremism. my 2 (euro)cents: everybody is welcome to live in my country as long as they contribute to the community. i am strongly opposed to anybody seeking shelter and then working against the community/country/nation that gave it. AFAIK that is the line of thought starting to spread on a broad scale over here. This is exactly the sort of response I was looking for - thanks! Do you think security and vigilance has increased across the board since the murders? Do you think that neutrality on the part of non-involved EU countries has made you safer, or more vulnerable (perhaps viewed as weak by extremists?) so you were shopping for an answer?The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #140 December 16, 2004 Quoteso you were shopping for an answer? No! I was looking for a discussion, especially with someone living in Europe who has a first-hand perspective to offer in terms of the attitudes and opinions in your country and neighboring countries. I just wasn't getting any of those kinds of reponses. Shocking, huh? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 6 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Rebecca 0 #140 December 16, 2004 Quoteso you were shopping for an answer? No! I was looking for a discussion, especially with someone living in Europe who has a first-hand perspective to offer in terms of the attitudes and opinions in your country and neighboring countries. I just wasn't getting any of those kinds of reponses. Shocking, huh? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
