kelpdiver 2 #201 December 17, 2004 QuoteYou either have a very poor understanding of probability, or you didn't understand me. It's looking like a bit of both, Andy. We have no idea what you're saying, and you are demonstrating a poor understanding of probability. Or it's time for you to start coughing up some numbers. Your claim is that the frequency of kitchen fires and car accidents is high enough that extinguishers and seat belts are a prudent precaution, but that violent crime is so rare that cases where people might use a gun are exceptions, data outliers that can be count on one's fingers. Though even the most conservative estimates are 65k defensive gun uses per year. Claims are that women have a 1 in 4 chance of being raped in their lifetime. I don't imagine they're nearly as likely to set their kitchen on fire or crunch their car. And that's just one category of crime. There's more than enough women killed by their SOs who violated a restraining order to poke holes in your "probabilities." So put up. Make a factual argument, not another vague one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #202 December 17, 2004 I did not say anything about an ATM robbery. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #203 December 18, 2004 QuoteYou either have a very poor understanding of probability, Odds mean nothing when you actually need to defend yourself. Why belittle those who chose to be prepared for the worst? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #204 December 18, 2004 Quote QuoteYou either have a very poor understanding of probability, Odds mean nothing when you actually need to defend yourself. Why belittle those who chose to be prepared for the worst? What are the odds for having a reserve ride on any given jump? So what's the line beween a prudent precaution and a myth of protection?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites