Hmmm - Makes sense - doesn't it?

[turtlespeed 226]

THE LAW IS THE LAW

So if the US government determines that it is
against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money,

then, so be it.

And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not
to be used in or on a government installation, then,
so be it.

And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools,
on which they deem their authority,

Then so be it.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a
law abiding US citizen.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to think
that smarter people
than I are in positions to make good decisions.

I would like to think that those people have the
American Publics' best interests at heart.

BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?


Since we can't pray to God,
can't Trust in God
and
cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings,

I don't believe the Government
and
it's employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas
celebrations
which honor the God that our government is eliminating
from many facets
of
American life.

I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas,

Good Friday,

Thanksgiving & Easter.

After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on
Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter

Why not Sundays as well?
After all, it's just
another day.



I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives

to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break."
After all ~

it's just
another day.



I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all
government offices & services would work on Christmas,
Good Friday

&
Easter.



It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would
be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be
"politically correct".



In fact....




I think that our entire government should work on Sundays
(initially set aside for worshipping God...)

because,
after all,

our government says that it should be just another day....

What do you all think????

If this idea gets to enough people,

maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority
opinions on religion and begin, once again, to represent the ‘majority’ of ALL of the American people.

SO BE IT...........

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[mnealtx 0]

I agree wholeheartedly...

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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What do you all think????

You can't deny the logic.

If the first amendment says no laws respecting the establishment of religion (paraphrased) then that means no laws making Chrimbo/Easter etc a national holiday.

Not saying one or the other is right, just acknowledging an apparent inconsistency.

Of course, there may well be ways to distinguish between the letter of the first amendment and the legislation in question – religious zealots are always comming up with them.

[storm1977 0]

I have always felt this way, however, the way they are getting around it now is by NOT calling it what it is:
For instance...
No longer is it a "Christmas" break, it is a Holiday break.
No longer is it a christmas tree on the WHitehouse Lawn,
it is a Holiday tree :-(

Unfortunately, the majority will loose in this case.

PC will be the downfall of America.

Just remember, in the USA you do NOT have the right not to be offended!!!!!

Chris

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[Zenister 0]

well that might be true if both easter and xmas were not social/religious holidays in several ancient cultures for centuries before the currently prevailing religion cooped them for their own purposes...

if the state mandated that you WORSHIP on those days off we'd have a problem, but all they mandate is that federal employees not work on those days...

so no it doesnt really make sense...

since the additions you mentioned were made to push a particular religions political agendas, removing them only returns us to the religiously neutral state originally intended.

what many fail to understand is christian does not equal American...despite the continual attempts by christians to coopt that ideal as well...

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[Kennedy 0]

Actually, PCism and Hyphenated-Americans will be the downfall of the US, but you were close enough.

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what many fail to understand is christian does not equal American

More importantly - that American does not equal Christian.

[PhillyKev 0]

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I have always felt this way, however, the way they are getting around it now is by NOT calling it what it is:
For instance...
No longer is it a "Christmas" break, it is a Holiday break.
No longer is it a christmas tree on the WHitehouse Lawn,
it is a Holiday tree :-(

Unfortunately, the majority will loose in this case.

PC will be the downfall of America.

That has been going on for thousands of years.

I can see a guy a couple thousand years ago saying....

No longer is Dec. 25th the Feast of Sol and Victus, now it's "Christmas"
No longer is it sacrificing a boar to the Son of Isis. Now it is a "Christmas Ham"
No longer is this tree a tribute to Saturnalia, it is now a "Christmas tre"

PC will be the downfall of Rome.

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I have always felt this way, however, the way they are getting around it now is by NOT calling it what it is:
For instance...
No longer is it a "Christmas" break, it is a Holiday break.
No longer is it a christmas tree on the WHitehouse Lawn,
it is a Holiday tree :-(

Unfortunately, the majority will loose in this case.

PC will be the downfall of America.

That has been going on for thousands of years.

I can see a guy a couple thousand years ago saying....

No longer is Dec. 25th the Feast of Sol and Victus, now it's "Christmas"
No longer is it sacrificing a boar to the Son of Isis. Now it is a "Christmas Ham"
No longer is this tree a tribute to Saturnalia, it is now a "Christmas tre"

PC will be the downfall of Rome.

Your missing the Point.....
THe point was that all this Political Correctness will be the down fall of the USA.
No one wants to a\offend anyone else, and ultimately this will cause security and social problems in this country which will eventually undermine it.

FYI- Communism is back in Russia, and there are many groups here in the US trying to bring it here too. It is a large movement in the US and many people don't even know they have been brainwashed into being part of it.

Unfortunatly this country is going to have a major decision to make in the not too distant future. This decision will ultimately determine the success or failure of our nation as we know it.

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[turtlespeed 226]

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Unfortunatly this country is going to have a major decision to make in the not too distant future. This decision will ultimately determine the success or failure of our nation as we know it.

Unfortunately, that decision has been made in the past, not "THAT" decision persay - but The US has already apexed. I'm not saying the road we have in front of us is going to be hell on Earth. We have defiately crossed that invisible line that defines the difference between the good and the bad of a county's history.

The best our country had to offer is behind us now.

We are declining.

In time, the US will be no more, unless we revamp some of our old values and renounce the anti-americanism values that some Americans have adopted now.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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In time, the US will be no more, unless we revamp some of our old values and renounce the anti-americanism values that some Americans have adopted now.

Exactly, you guys need a strong government to tell people what to think and to get rid of those who don't think like the government.

Uhmm......yeah......that kind of sounds like communism.

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In time, the US will be no more, unless we revamp some of our old values and renounce the anti-americanism values that some Americans have adopted now.

Agreed, and once we can agree that anti-Americanism is not speaking out against a mis-guided government and seeking to take back control of our individuality from the government...we'll all be a lot better off.

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In time, the US will be no more, unless we revamp some of our old values and renounce the anti-americanism values that some Americans have adopted now.

Exactly, you guys need a strong government to tell people what to think and to get rid of those who don't think like the government.

Uhmm......yeah......that kind of sounds like communism.

No, you are wrong.... We said nothing about the government. We said anti-american. There are plenty of Morons that live in this country that hate it, and would like nothing more than to change it or see it fail.

The hypocracy(sp?) of these people stuns me!!!!!!!!!

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[billvon 3,120]

>There are plenty of Morons that live in this country that hate it, and
>would like nothing more than to change it or see it fail.

Remember that moron Lincoln who changed the constitution to outlaw slavery? He must have really hated america. Then there are those idiots that wanted women to vote, who ended up messing with the constitution again, destroying america to get their way. And Martin Luther King - always wanting to change things. Why can't he just shut up and stay in the back of the bus? He's the worst america-hater of all.

Of course, Bush is really gearing up to be an anti-american, with all his talk of changing the constitution to outlaw gay marriage. Why does he hate america so much? Perhaps we'll never know.

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Your missing the Point.....
THe point was that all this Political Correctness will be the down fall of the USA.
No one wants to a\offend anyone else, and ultimately this will cause security and social problems in this country which will eventually undermine it.

Secular vocabulary will be the downfall of this country? I tend to think that is an exaggeration, otherwise our country was never that strong to begin with. Separation of Church and State was mandated by our founders because of what they saw in the old world. They didn't want the same mistakes to happen in the freeworld.

Don't confuse "PC" with denial of religious rights. No one is taking away the right to practice or preach your beliefs. However, choosing one god to represent the vast mass of our population is forcing a singular religion down the throats of those that do not worship that deity. That is not what this country is about.

Those that are quick to throw out "PC this and PC that" are often closed minded (no personal attack intended), tend to refuse to accept change and progress, or have a very self-centered view of the country. While the collective skin of the American Citizen may have become a bit thin, it's only a side effect of trying to help/defend those that have no voice.

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Don't confuse "PC" with denial of religious rights. No one is taking away the right to practice or preach your beliefs. However, choosing one god to represent the vast mass of our population is forcing a singular religion down the throats of those that do not worship that deity. That is not what this country is about.

Bullshit - you can find documents from the Founding Fathers and all throughout the history of the country that reference God.

Secondly, there has been no "religion selected to represent the vast mass of our population". If you think differently, show me the law that says "The Catholic religion is now the religion of the United States".

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Those that are quick to throw out "PC this and PC that" are often closed minded (no personal attack intended), tend to refuse to accept change and progress, or have a very self-centered view of the country. While the collective skin of the American Citizen may have become a bit thin, it's only a side effect of trying to help/defend those that have no voice.

Actually, those who are anti "PC this" and "PC that" tend to be more of the opinion that we are AMERICANS first.... It seems to be the "PC crowd" that is so obsessed with labelling... hence all the "Hypenated-Americans". And, of course, the demands that every thing be THEIR way and that they can't be offended by ANYTHING....

The "PC Crowd" keeps wanting to talk the talk about equality, while setting aside quotas for the "Hyphenated-Americans"... the "Anti PC crowd" walk the walk by saying "if you're the best person for the job, you're hired"; "if your test scores are good enough, we'll admit you to college", etc...

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Does not the government break most of the 10 commandments on a daily bases?
Personally I could give a rats ass about whether the word god or any other religous reference is on my money as long as it spends.
The whole issue of religous reference is about keeping an unbias face on government.
If one religion gets a strong hold on government then policy sways to that side. Would America be a better place if it was like Isreal or Saudi Arabia.
If the christians can hang their slogans on a government building then I should be just as free to hang what I believe in. Furthermore all satanist should feel free to hang what they want. Hell, let us all hang our beliefs on government and school buildings. Just think... a swatstikas on every building!!! And you will be able to thank the religous front for that.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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Don't confuse "PC" with denial of religious rights. No one is taking away the right to practice or preach your beliefs. However, choosing one god to represent the vast mass of our population is forcing a singular religion down the throats of those that do not worship that deity. That is not what this country is about.

Bullshit - you can find documents from the Founding Fathers and all throughout the history of the country that reference God.

Secondly, there has been no "religion selected to represent the vast mass of our population". If you think differently, show me the law that says "The Catholic religion is now the religion of the United States".

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Those that are quick to throw out "PC this and PC that" are often closed minded (no personal attack intended), tend to refuse to accept change and progress, or have a very self-centered view of the country. While the collective skin of the American Citizen may have become a bit thin, it's only a side effect of trying to help/defend those that have no voice.

Actually, those who are anti "PC this" and "PC that" tend to be more of the opinion that we are AMERICANS first.... It seems to be the "PC crowd" that is so obsessed with labelling... hence all the "Hypenated-Americans". And, of course, the demands that every thing be THEIR way and that they can't be offended by ANYTHING....

The "PC Crowd" keeps wanting to talk the talk about equality, while setting aside quotas for the "Hyphenated-Americans"... the "Anti PC crowd" walk the walk by saying "if you're the best person for the job, you're hired"; "if your test scores are good enough, we'll admit you to college", etc...

Actually the "anti-PC crowd" tends to be those of the mind set that 40 years ago opposed integration of schools and wanted blacks in the back of the bus, and 150 years ago supported slavery.

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[mnealtx 0]

Prove it. I submit that the "anti-PC" crowd are LESS likely to look at the color of a person's skin, as stated in my prior post.

You know...the whole "not be judged by the color
of their skin but by the content of their character" thing.

And I'd like to personally thank you for calling me and however many other members of this board racists...

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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If the christians can hang their slogans on a government building then I should be just as free to hang what I believe in.

Are you not? Sounds fair to me... try it and report back.

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Furthermore all satanist should feel free to hang what they want. Hell, let us all hang our beliefs on government and school buildings. Just think... a swatstikas on every building!!!

Don't do it, it looks crappy. (SCNR)

BTW a short while ago the Federal constitutional court of Germany decided that it is illegal to have crucifixes on the walls of schools in Bavaria (one of the more "conservative" federal states in the south).

Religion has no (and I mean NO) business in any governmental institution.

Ich betrachte die Religion als Krankheit, als Quelle unnennbaren Elends für die menschliche Rasse.
(Bertrand Russell, engl. Philosoph, 1872-1970)

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Prove it. I submit that the "anti-PC" crowd are LESS likely to look at the color of a person's skin, as stated in my prior post.

You know...the whole "not be judged by the color
of their skin but by the content of their character" thing.

And I'd like to personally thank you for calling me and however many other members of this board racists...

No-one called you anything. Just contradicting your own statement about what PC and anti-PC crowds tend to do.

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