akarunway 1 #1 November 26, 2004 teachers and students can't? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139304,00.htmlI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 November 26, 2004 Quoteteachers and students can't? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139304,00.html Who is going to tell him he can't? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #3 November 26, 2004 Quoteteachers and students can't? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139304,00.html Because the people running the school district are idiots that can't understand the meaning of the 1st amendment?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #4 November 26, 2004 more of the same from the PC crew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morcyk 0 #5 November 26, 2004 Uh.. wouldn't the fact that they thanked a god also be a historical fact? Modifying history to portray a society devoid of religion is not the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #6 November 26, 2004 QuoteUh.. wouldn't the fact that they thanked a god also be a historical fact? Modifying history to portray a society devoid of religion is not the way. Yes, I agree... I don't believe in God myself, but I do think that where religion is a part of our history, it should be taught that way. Removing historical facts just because they pertain to God is ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #8 November 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteteachers and students can't? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139304,00.html Because the people running the school district are idiots that can't understand the meaning of the 1st amendment? The people running the school district are the elected representatives of their community.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 November 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteteachers and students can't? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139304,00.html Because the people running the school district are idiots that can't understand the meaning of the 1st amendment? The people running the school district are the elected representatives of their community. Which in no way precludes them from being idiots... and has nothing to do my post, either, for that matter.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #10 November 26, 2004 QuoteMaryland public school students are free to thank anyone they want while learning about the 17th century celebration of Thanksgiving — as long as it's not God. And that is how it should be, administrators say. Young students across the state read stories about the Pilgrims and Native Americans, simulate Mayflower voyages, hold mock feasts and learn about the famous meal that temporarily allied two very different groups. But what teachers don't mention when they describe the feast is that the Pilgrims not only thanked the Native Americans for their peaceful three-day indulgence, but repeatedly thanked God. "We teach about Thanksgiving from a purely historical perspective, not from a religious perspective," said Charles Ridgell, St. Mary's County Public Schools curriculum and instruction director. School administrators statewide agree, saying religion never coincides with how they teach Thanksgiving to students. So the fact that pilgrims fled here from religious persecution, and thanked their God for his blessings, are not important historical facts? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Just one more story of idiocy. Teaching about chirstianity is not the same as teaching christianity. Too bad the people charged with overseeing our children's education are incapable of understanding that.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 November 26, 2004 Bush doesn't have anything to do with this story, so I wonder why you put his name in the thread title? Do you dislike Bush so much, that you will blame him for anything some idiot does anywhere in the country? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #12 November 26, 2004 I think this is an outstanding strategy for liberals to pursue: Openly hostile attack on that portion of the public that identifies itself with a faith in God. Outstanding work, keep it up!People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #13 November 26, 2004 QuoteI think this is an outstanding strategy for liberals to pursue: Openly hostile attack on that portion of the public that identifies itself with a faith in God. Outstanding work, keep it up! Hmm, I'm a liberal and I have already said I disagree with what that school is doing regarding their teachings of Thanksgiving. Perhaps you could have worded it better by saying "some liberals"... And looking at that article again, I thought this was sort of funny (emphasis mine): Quote"We teach about Thanksgiving from a purely historical perspective, not from a religious perspective," said Charles Ridgell, St. Mary's County Public Schools curriculum and instruction director. If they're that concerned about leaving religion out of everything, then maybe they should change the name of their county. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #14 November 26, 2004 It's a good thing that Mexico is not a God, because the kids can thank Mexico for giving us some of the finest tequila....and in Tequila I trust. I am not sure if I trust a radical Tequilas, like the ones that are all the way to the right, or the ones that swing way left....I really like the moderate Tequila...like Patron. Thank God there is Mexico...I mean...thank you Mexico!7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #15 November 26, 2004 I also find it amazing how Canada (or at least Ontario) has a two school systems, the Catholic and secular schools, both as public schools. Of course I may be wrong, but I find it incredible that this is OK with the generally liberal Canadian/Ontario public. edit - I was amazed when my kids were able to sing obviously religious oriented songs in their Christmas choir program (Can't remember if it was actually called a Christmas program, but some of the songs were definitely not secular).People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #16 November 26, 2004 QuoteSo the fact that pilgrims fled here from religious persecution, and thanked their God for his blessings, are not important historical facts? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. give it a few years. They will not have left for religious freedom, but to escape a Republican"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #17 November 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteSo the fact that pilgrims fled here from religious persecution, and thanked their God for his blessings, are not important historical facts? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. give it a few years. They will not have left for religious freedom, but to escape a Republican If you read the actual history of the puritans in Europe, it is obvious that they were lucky to be allowed to leave. A century earlier they would have been burned or hanged, like they did to those they defined as heretics (ever heard of Salem?). The religious intolerance was mostly BY the puritans, who became very unpopular with everyone else. Rhode Island was founded by people escaping the religious intolerance of the Massachsetts Bay Colony.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #18 November 26, 2004 QuoteIf you read the actual history of the puritans in Europe, it is obvious that they were lucky to be allowed to leave. A century earlier they would have been burned or hanged, like they did to those they defined as heretics (ever heard of Salem?). The religious intolerance was mostly BY the puritans, who became very unpopular with everyone else. Rhode Island was founded by people escaping the religious intolerance of the Massachsetts Bay Colony. I have read the history.... However it does not change the fact that liberals are trying to rewrite history."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #19 November 27, 2004 QuoteQuoteIf you read the actual history of the puritans in Europe, it is obvious that they were lucky to be allowed to leave. A century earlier they would have been burned or hanged, like they did to those they defined as heretics (ever heard of Salem?). The religious intolerance was mostly BY the puritans, who became very unpopular with everyone else. Rhode Island was founded by people escaping the religious intolerance of the Massachsetts Bay Colony. I have read the history.... However it does not change the fact that liberals are trying to rewrite history. Oh, I only saw you doing that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #20 November 27, 2004 QuoteOh, I only saw you doing that. Maybe you should read the rest of the posts...Ya know where the liberas don't want anyone to be able to mention God when talking about Thanksgiving."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #21 November 27, 2004 QuoteQuoteOh, I only saw you doing that. Maybe you should read the rest of the posts...Ya know where the liberas don't want anyone to be able to mention God when talking about Thanksgiving. They do? I'm a supposed liberal, and it doesn't bother me unless and until it becomes proselytizing. I find distorting history more objectionable ("the pilgrims fled persecution" when they were in fact among the worst persecuters of the lot).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #22 November 27, 2004 kallend's argument: puritans persecuted other people. this means no one could ever have persecuted them at any point thereafter. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #23 November 27, 2004 Quotekallend's argument: puritans persecuted other people. this means no one could ever have persecuted them at any point thereafter. I wrote nothing whatever about "thereafter". They could have been persecuted in Massachusett Bay Colony for all I know. However, at the time they left England, most everyone was very happy to see the back of them because they'd been so obnoxious. And they were sufficiently obnoxious in MBC to make people like Roger Williams leave.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #24 November 27, 2004 Bush doesn't have anything to do with this story, so I wonder why you put his name in the thread title? //////////////////////////////////////////////////////Because it was a follow up thread to his little Thanksgiving Day speech. I am a reformed Catholic and was a Republican most of my life but this shit in this country is getting way outta hand. And yes fuck the little nazi BushI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #25 November 27, 2004 It's a good thing that Mexico is not a God, because the kids can thank Mexico for giving us some of the finest tequila....and in Tequila I trust. I am not sure if I trust a radical Tequilas, like the ones that are all the way to the right, or the ones that swing way left....I really like the moderate Tequila...like Patron. Thank God there is Mexico...I mean...thank you Mexico! ======================================LOL. The one good piece of advice my father gave me. "You have black and white. To get thru life try to stay in the gray." The other best piece of advice from my uncle. "If you want all the pussy you can handle and the best pussy go for the fat ones and the ugly ones. They try harder to please." LOLI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
