Paulipod 0 #51 November 27, 2004 Well, strictly speaking I could even put down treaty support as self interest.... but like I said... I am not that good at history Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakbrother 0 #52 November 27, 2004 Quote Well, strictly speaking I could even put down treaty support as self interest.... but like I said... I am not that good at history How do you feel about UK and France declaring war on Germany in 1939 on account of the Nazi invasion of Poland? To what extent was self interest involved there, do you think, given that neither country was really prepared for war?. . www.freak-brother.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #53 November 27, 2004 >Since you don't have the balls to come out of hiding . . . The usual one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #54 November 27, 2004 "How do you feel about UK and France declaring war on Germany in 1939 on account of the Nazi invasion of Poland? To what extent was self interest involved there, do you think, given that neither country was really prepared for war?" This came about due to mutual treaty obligations.... And it WAS in Britain & France's interests to attack a Germany which was rising in power again, before it got too powerful and turned it's attentions west again. What Europe (the world even) WASN'T ready for was Germany's grasp of combined arms and manoeuver warfare (and it took a LONG time for those lessons to sink in). Even today, looking at Operation Enduring Freedom, you can still see the ghost of Fall Weiss hanging over the battlefield. At the end of the day, nations have interests, not morals. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #55 November 27, 2004 Love it when someone posts and saves me typing.... Thanks Mike Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #56 November 27, 2004 Anyway, Having gone through WWII, The UN, Americans, and of course Boobies... The Ukraine I find it interesting that the border of the vote split almost exactly follows the old borders of Moldova and The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Like I said before, we have an ethnic split of the vote, and like Czechslovakia (which is now split into The Czech Republic and Slovakia), perhaps the only answer is Secession, hopefully a peaceful secession. I suspect that the alternative to a velvet secession would be civil war, followed by secession. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
