crwtom 0 #1 November 23, 2004 delightful - and Rummy actually manages to be diplomatic about it calling it Bush's "evolving position". Huhuhu article almost as slick & slippery as Powell's stabbing term of a "parochial debate" for the reelection campaign. Rodents leaving a sinking ship? Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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ChasingBlueSky 0 #3 November 24, 2004 Use this site to get a way in www.bugmenot.com_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #4 November 24, 2004 it is soooo much easier if people would just post the text to short articles from sites that require registration... QuoteRumsfeld Denies Thwarting Bush on Intelligence Bill By REUTERS Published: November 23, 2004 ASHINGTON, Nov 23 (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Tuesday he did not lobby behind the scenes to scuttle intelligence reform legislation backed by President George W. Bush, and said he support's Bush's position. Legislation supported by Bush to overhaul the 15 U.S. spy agencies and act on recommendations from the bipartisan commission that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America was blocked on Saturday by opposition from a group of conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives. Advertisement Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, Republican chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and others in Congress have cited Pentagon opposition as a reason for the bill's collapse. And Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, last month urged lawmakers not to dilute the Pentagon's budgetary power over the intelligence agencies. During a Pentagon briefing, Rumsfeld said there was "a very complicated negotiation up there" in Congress on the fate of the bill, and "I haven't been involved in it." "But the president's position is evolving as the negotiation evolves," Rumsfeld said, without explaining how Bush's position is changing. "I'm a part of this administration. If I didn't want to support the president's position, I wouldn't be in the administration, and I do intend to support him," Rumsfeld added. The New York Times in an editorial on Tuesday stated, "Despite Mr. Rumsfeld's denials, it seems obvious that he lobbied against the president's stated policy." Asked if he lobbied behind the scenes against the bill, Rumsfeld said, "The answer is absolutely not. And it's just plain inaccurate to say, as the New York Times editorial does, that I have." The legislation would create the position of national intelligence director to oversee the CIA and other U.S. spy agencies, including several within the Pentagon. Rep. Jane Harman, the House Intelligence Committee's ranking top Democrat, has said Rumsfeld does not want to relinquish the Pentagon's broad sway over the budgets of intelligence agencies. The Pentagon currently controls 80 percent of the U.S. intelligence budget. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #5 November 24, 2004 What with "bad intel", "small and short lived", and "evolving position", there's a whole lot of redefining of the English language going on these days.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 November 24, 2004 Quote What with "bad intel", "small and short lived", and "evolving position", there's a whole lot of redefining of the English language going on these days. Gee, I thought the Libs were always criticizing Bush for not being open minded and flexible. I thought he was always being criticized for not being open minded to different view points. Now he's being criticized as a flip-flopper when he does what the Left demands he does. Now the Left can understand why he doesn't really care what they think because he will be criticized no matter what he does. Now the Left can start to comprehend that people see through their inconsistency. Now the Left can understand why their Candidates lack leadership abilities. Perhaps they will even begin to understand why they lose elections. But I doubt it. At least I hope not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 November 24, 2004 QuoteGee, I thought the Libs were always criticizing Bush for not being open minded and flexible. No, we criticize him for never admitting he may have been wrong after he's already done something. That's a bit different from changing your mind as you decide what to do before doing it. QuoteNow the Left can understand why he doesn't really care what they think We already know he doesn't care about the other 49% of the country that doesn't support his every move. Great leadership quality right there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 November 24, 2004 QuoteQuoteGee, I thought the Libs were always criticizing Bush for not being open minded and flexible. QuoteNo, we criticize him for never admitting he may have been wrong after he's already done something. That's a bit different from changing your mind as you decide what to do before doing it. No, actually you criticize him for anything he does. It demostrates the Lefts inability to understand any vbiew point other than their own. Funny how Bush is accused of the very things his accussers do. I suppose it's easier to see ones own faults in someone else. QuoteNow the Left can understand why he doesn't really care what they think QuoteWe already know he doesn't care about the other 49% of the country that doesn't support his every move. Great leadership quality right there. Which only demonstrates what I just stated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #9 November 24, 2004 It's not my fault he does so many things wrong. It's not like I have to look hard to find him fucking something up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #10 November 24, 2004 Well,flip-flopping on GWB's part could be indicative of a family trait,since he is Kerry's cousinMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #11 November 24, 2004 QuoteWell,flip-flopping on GWB's part could be indicative of a family trait,since he is Kerry's cousin The Left hates him cause he ain't their Daddy!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
PhillyKev 0 #9 November 24, 2004 It's not my fault he does so many things wrong. It's not like I have to look hard to find him fucking something up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #10 November 24, 2004 Well,flip-flopping on GWB's part could be indicative of a family trait,since he is Kerry's cousinMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 November 24, 2004 QuoteWell,flip-flopping on GWB's part could be indicative of a family trait,since he is Kerry's cousin The Left hates him cause he ain't their Daddy!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
