Merkur 1 #1 November 23, 2004 There was just a report on the news, that 55% of the U.S. citizens believe in creation as the source of life, while 45% believe in evolution. I wonder what you think? Please keep in mind that I'm more interested in the figures than in people starting fights about their opinion. ThanksvSCR No.94 Don't dream your life - live your dream! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 November 23, 2004 I see more of a mix between the two. I think evolution has had a big effect on life as we know it today, but I think it didn't start at random.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #3 November 23, 2004 i believe in a "higher power" one who performed all of the miricles just as they are written in the King James Version.-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #4 November 23, 2004 You left out the inclusive middle ground where God created evolution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 November 23, 2004 Actually the numbers are quite a bit different than that. http://www.pollingreport.com/science.htm#Origin%20of%20Human%20Life 45% - God created humans in present form (in otherwords as detailed in Genesis) 38% - Guided by God (lot's of waffle room for "Creation Scientists") 13% - God had no part 4% - undecided. Of course, believing in something doesn't make it so.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #6 November 23, 2004 QuoteYou left out the inclusive middle ground where God created evolution. That's the theory that I pretty much subscribe to... Pissed of my Fundie Baptist neighbor something fierce...He spent hours trying to convert me before I told him where he could shove his dogma. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 November 23, 2004 QuoteQuoteYou left out the inclusive middle ground where God created evolution. That's the theory that I pretty much subscribe to... Pissed of my Fundie Baptist neighbor something fierce...He spent hours trying to convert me before I told him where he could shove his dogma. It's the perfect middle ground for Christians - impossible to challenge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 November 23, 2004 QuoteOf course, believing in something doesn't make it so. I believe I'll have a glass of wine. Oooh, looky here! Cheers! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #9 November 23, 2004 Quotei believe in a "higher power" one who performed all of the miricles just as they are written in the King James Version. and to reiterate what I just posted a little while ago if so - where does the "greater power" come from? is that a product of some other evolution ? Replaceing an unknown X by an undefined, unknown Y doesn't do squat at explining anything. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merkur 1 #10 November 23, 2004 Thanks Quade - I must admit, that I am just listening to the news with one ear, while I was reading articles here. Nevertheless I am still interested in the outcome here. To all the rest of you - as I can't change the possible answers to the poll - go with what is there.vSCR No.94 Don't dream your life - live your dream! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #11 November 23, 2004 QuoteQuoteOf course, believing in something doesn't make it so. I believe I'll have a glass of wine. Oooh, looky here! Cheers! What kind are you drinking? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #12 November 23, 2004 QuoteCreation or Evolution - what do you think I think I'd piss off 55% of the US citizens you claim think one thing when I told them how foolish I thought they were......---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #13 November 23, 2004 QuoteI see more of a mix between the two. I think evolution has had a big effect on life as we know it today, but I think it didn't start at random. Front page of one of the local Sunday papers the other day said that schools would begin teaching 'Intelligent Design', or whatever that mix of creation and evolution is. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #14 November 23, 2004 Creation. I don't give a shit about polls. They are only people's opinions. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #15 November 23, 2004 QuoteQuoteYou left out the inclusive middle ground where God created evolution. That's the theory that I pretty much subscribe to... Pissed of my Fundie Baptist neighbor something fierce...He spent hours trying to convert me before I told him where he could shove his dogma. This reminds me of some Bill Hicks (of blessed memory) standup comedy I heard on itunes one time. He told the story of how some religious dudes accosted him after he lambasted Christianity in his comedy routine. They said, "We're angry about some of the things you said in your act." So he said, "Well forgive me." (He lightens it up by saying he ended up hanging from a tree by his underwear.) He has a MAJOR point. If you get a religious zealot so worked up that they get irate at you, point out to them that it is the heart of their faith to FORGIVE you, as god ordered that they should. That should set their thermostats to "melt-down." -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #16 November 23, 2004 Such damn conflicting evidence for a mere mortal to choose from! On one hand, we have all these fossils (not meaning the older ones among you) which show that things change over time.... thus supporting evolution. On the other hand, so many things that would have pretty impressive to happen through development and not design! I think if it is design though... someone is having a good laugh.... like everytime I bite my lip damn thing swells so I bite it some more! who would have planned that! Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falko 0 #17 November 23, 2004 There was another Poll on that subject just recently: Clicky I didn't vote on this one as it directly addresses US citizens. Would've voted for Evolution tho. Ich betrachte die Religion als Krankheit, als Quelle unnennbaren Elends für die menschliche Rasse. (Bertrand Russell, engl. Philosoph, 1872-1970) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #18 November 23, 2004 QuoteI don't give a shit about polls. They are only people's opinions. Correct, the poll is only peoples opinions, evolution has just a tad more merit though. As crwtom said, creation explains nothing. And its dumb.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aliveboy2004 0 #19 November 23, 2004 I really think that evolution created gods. And the more we evolve the less there will be a need for a god. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,424 #20 November 23, 2004 QuoteYes, of course. Hence the name: movement. It moves a certain distance, then it stops. A revolution gets its name by always coming back around in your face. You tried to kill me you son of a bitch...so welcome to the revolution. Oh, wait. Sorry, you said "evolution," not "revolution." Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #21 November 23, 2004 >Front page of one of the local Sunday papers the other day said >that schools would begin teaching 'Intelligent Design' . . . . That's an interesting compromise, because it essentially only seeks to discredit the parts of evolution that the intelligent design authors don't understand. A student learning about creationism, then intelligent design is like a child being taught about human reproduction - they start off with a myth (i.e. a stork brings babies or something) move on to a partial truth (i.e. "a man and a woman get married and a baby starts growing") and then the 'real truth' (i.e. sexual intercourse and pregnancy.) A student taught intelligent design is akin to the child being taught the partial truth; it at least introduces him to the science and lets him start discrediting the myth part on his own. I've got nothing against teaching creationism to non-technical people in private schools; there is no harm to society if a Medieval English Lit professor thinks that women came from a man's rib, or that every land-animal species was one crammed into a little boat. But there is clearly a danger to society if a doctor believes bacteria cannot evolve resistance to antibiotics, so it's irresponsible to say "present whatever you want." So there is some risk to allowing the teaching of myth as science. On the other hand, there is no danger at all to teaching religion; the best solution is to teach evolution in a science class and creationism in a religion class. That way there doesn't have to be the odd blend of myth and science known as ID. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merkur 1 #22 November 23, 2004 @Falko: Thanks. Must have slipped my attention! (Regarding PM - good job and keep on going) @billvon: That's the way they teach in in Germany. @all: I am interested in the figures - like I said earlier and as thankful as I am for PM - I already have made the choice of what I think is the truth. So please stop trying to convince me of one or the other - Thanks! Go vote!!!vSCR No.94 Don't dream your life - live your dream! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #23 November 23, 2004 QuoteThat's an interesting compromise, because it essentially only seeks to discredit the parts of evolution that the intelligent design authors don't understand. Like maybe the missing link(s)? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #24 November 23, 2004 >Like maybe the missing link(s)? ------------------------------------------- Could This Fossil Be Missing Link? WASHINGTON, Nov. 19, 2004 (AP) A nearly 13 million-year-old ape discovered in Spain is the last probable common ancestor to all living humans and great apes, a research team says in Friday's issue of Science magazine. A husband-and-wife team of fossil sleuths unearthed an animal with a body like an ape, fingers like a chimp and the upright posture of humans. The ancient ape bridges the gap between earlier, primitive animals and later, modern creatures. This newest ape species, Pierolapithecus catalaunicus, is so significant that it adds a new page to ancient human history. ------------------------------------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #25 November 23, 2004 QuoteCould This Fossil Be Missing Link? Sure, it could be. But until it -is- neither creationism or evolution is a sure thing. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
