SkyDekker 1,465 #51 November 18, 2004 QuoteYou are correct, but like I said, with sex and the topic of sex come a sense of responsibility and maturity which I do NOT feel 5yr olds should be subjected to. This is how I feel. Do you want the Public Schools teaching SEX ED in Kindergarden? I don't want the tv forcing me to discuss with my family what I don't think they are ready for. It is bad enough that kids now have to be explained what terrorists are, what beheadings are, what war is.... It is a lot for a kid, and 5 IMO is too young. Let the kid have childhood before they live the stressful lives we all do. With the age of sexual activity falling that may not be a bad idea. Or one could off course just ignore the problem and stick one's head in the sand pretending it is not a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #52 November 18, 2004 I could be way off but I'm wondering if the "NFL viewing audience" had a problem with a black man being sexual with a white woman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #53 November 18, 2004 QuoteI could be way off but I'm wondering if the "NFL viewing audience" had a problem with a black man being sexual with a white woman. well actually, the black man was ignoring the white woman saying how the game was more important than her. I actually thought this was a GOOD message :-) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #54 November 18, 2004 >I happen to think that issues about what is aired on tv is very important. I guess I don't share that since I don't watch it. >I wouldn't want to have to explaine to my kid at 5yrs old what viagra is > used for, or what an erection that lasts for 4 hrs is..... You'd rather have his buddies at preschool explain it? I heard my first dirty joke around age 7, from a neighborhood kid repeating one his father told him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #55 November 18, 2004 QuoteI don't think a child should have to deal with the mature subject of Sex. With sex comes responsability, and i don't feel that that is a burden a 5 yr old needs to bare.... And when does it stop. DO I then need to explain all aspects of sex? Blow jobs anal Sex Genital warts Rape ??????? I don't understand this. You start slow, with little bits of information and then add to it as time passes, instead of throwing everything at once at a kid. If you start young they get used to it and feel far more comfortable discussing questions with you. I have a 10 year old neighbor who is always telling me what she heard from her friends. The kind of warped definitions and ideas that come out of a 10 year old are incredible. I don't want my kids full of misinformation because they are afraid to talk with me about sex. You don't have to dive right into blow jobs. You don't start your 5 year old with calculus, he can't wrap his brain around it. You start with addition and build from there as they mature. There's no reason sex should be different. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #56 November 18, 2004 >You don't have to dive right into blow jobs. For some reason that statement reminds me of The Meaning of Life: HUMPHREY: The purpose of foreplay is to cause the vagina to lubricate, so that the penis can penetrate more easily. . . And, of course, to cause the man's penis to erect and har. . .den! Now, did I do vaginal juices last week? Oh, do pay attention, Wadsworth! I know it's Friday after-- Oh, watching the football, are you boy? Right! Move over there. I'm warning you! I may decide to set an exam this term. HUMPHREY: So, just listen. Now, did I or did I not... do... vaginal... juices? PUPILS: Mmm. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. HUMPHREY: Name two ways of getting them flowing, Watson. WATSON: R-- rubbing the clitoris, sir? HUMPHREY: What's wrong with a kiss, boy? Hmm? Why not start her off with a nice kiss? You don't have to go leaping straight for the clitoris like a bull at a gate. Give her a kiss, boy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #57 November 18, 2004 Someone want to explain to me why Tony Dungee thinks the commecial was racist? Owens Apologizes for Role in 'MNF' Skit By DAN GELSTON, AP Sports Writer PHILADELPHIA - Terrell Owens apologized Thursday to anyone offended by his role in a steamy segment with actress Nicollette Sheridan for the intro to "Monday Night Football." "I felt like it was clean, the organization felt like it was a clean skit and I think it just really got taken out of context with a lot of people and I apologize for that," Owens said. "Personally I didn't think it would have offended anyone and, if it did, I apologize." ABC and the Eagles also apologized this week, with the team saying they wished the segment "hadn't aired." The opening, which has generated complaints to ABC and the Federal Communications Commission, showed Sheridan wearing only a towel and provocatively asking Owens to skip the game for her as the two stood alone in a locker room. She drops the towel and jumps into Owens' arms. Owens had no idea the intro would create such a backlash. "I thought it was a fun skit and that was it," Owens said. Owens, a flashy player known for his outrageous touchdown celebrations, seemed to believe the skit was generating controversy because of his participation, not because of simulated nudity. "Anything I get involved with, I'm obviously a target," he said. "It happened." Reaction has ranged from amusement to anger. Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy found it racially offensive; Owens is black and Sheridan is white. Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb wasn't quite as vocal, saying he didn't find the segment offensive and believed people were overreacting. Michael Powell, chairman of the FCC , questioned ABC's judgment in airing the scene. When asked if he was shocked the story was making the front page of newspapers around the country, Owens quipped, "I always make the front page."_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #58 November 18, 2004 >Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy found it racially offensive; Owens >is black and Sheridan is white. I don't get this. Was it more degrading to one of them because of their race or something? Was one portrayed as stupid and the other smart? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #59 November 18, 2004 Or is it possible that Dungy just doesn't like the idea of mixed race relationships?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #60 November 18, 2004 Quote>Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy found it racially offensive; Owens >is black and Sheridan is white. I don't get this. Was it more degrading to one of them because of their race or something? Was one portrayed as stupid and the other smart? I don't get it either. Personally, I think its a pretty big step for the mouse house to show this. If anyone knows their history about Disney - he wasn't the biggest support of racial equality._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #61 November 18, 2004 QuoteSomeone want to explain to me why Tony Dungee thinks the commecial was racist? You interpreted that wrong. He didn't say is was racist. He said it was racially offensive because he IS a racist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #62 November 18, 2004 > Or is it possible that Dungy just doesn't like the idea of mixed race relationships? ?? Are there still people like that who say that stuff out loud in public? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #63 November 18, 2004 I found an interesting article dealing with common sense and kids seeing this stuff too soon. IMHO the media is headed into strict regulation - a reporter was put in jail today for not revealing a source! (btw - this reporter makes a good point about the V-Chip - if you have it, your kids wouldn't see half this stuff) I'm going to post the entire article because it require registration to read it: From the "The Opinion" of NorthJersey.com By MARIE COCCO CULTURE WARS make for odd couples. A spectacularly eccentric one is the pairing of Irish rocker and political activist Bono with the patriotic but fictitious Pvt. James Ryan. Bono is the pop star whose insouciant use of the F-word during last year's Golden Globe awards broadcast caused the Federal Communications Commission to overrule its precedent - and its own enforcement bureau - in declaring that even fleeting and non-sexual use of the word may violate the law. Ryan is the character from whom the award-winning World War II film "Saving Private Ryan" takes its name. The irreverent rocker and the reverential war movie became linked because dozens of ABC television affiliates, fearful of sanction in light of the infamous Bono ruling, refused to air "Saving Private Ryan" on Veterans Day. "The commission emphasized that all broadcast licensees are on clear notice that similar broadcasts in the future will lead to forfeitures and potential license revocation, if appropriate," the FCC said when it issued the Bono decision. Soldiers who are being shot at, blown up and, generally speaking, subjected to the worst degradations one human being can inflict upon another do tend to utter a profanity now and then. And indeed, the word Vice President Dick Cheney used as an epithet on the floor of the Senate a few months back is heard often from the men in "Saving Private Ryan." It slips out, from time to time, as they undertake a deadly trek across France to find Ryan and ship him home so he will be spared the fate of his brothers, who've already perished in combat. Viewers in about a third of the country, including such major markets as Boston and Dallas, were denied the opportunity to watch the Veterans Day special because their ABC affiliates dared not risk the FCC's wrath. ABC has said it would pay whatever fines, if any, the regulatory agency chooses to impose on local stations. We are probably months from official resolution of any of the "multiple" complaints the FCC says it received about the movie. But the lesson of this little parable is clear right now: The very same activists who like to promote personal and parental responsibility as the antidote to all that ails America quite happily - and of course, angrily - call in the heavy hand of government when it suits their purpose. "If ABC goes unchallenged, the door is open to these words being used anytime the networks choose!" the conservative American Family Association screeched in urging its members to file formal complaints about "Private Ryan" with the FCC. "They can simply say the words were used 'in context' to real life and get away with it." In the context of real life, most American children have heard the offensive language and quite possibly used the word in question by the time they reach middle school. This does not excuse it. But here, in the context of my real life, is how I saved "Private Ryan" for those sufficiently mature to watch it: My high school student, a military history buff, was allowed to see the film. My fifth-grader was sent to bed early. Others may well have used technology to achieve the same result. Parents today can use a V-chip, or block a show or a whole channel by programming the remote. Then there's the low-tech solution: Turn the set off. These are, apparently, unacceptable to our cultural jihadists of the right. They do not wish to let me regulate the viewing habits of my own family. They say they know better. They are not content to tell their own children to believe in Genesis, not Darwin. They wish to scrub science textbooks of their science. They believe it is insufficient to keep their own kids from reading, say, the Harry Potter books - and persist in pushing to ban them from school libraries. I am not fond of slippery-slope arguments; they tend to be too facile for complicated situations. But this one isn't complicated. We have slid from Janet Jackson's bare breast to Bono's silly speech to what amounts to censorship of a film classic rich with historical resonance - and contemporary relevance - in less than a year. In this grinding war, the first victim has been common sense. The second, more chilling casualty, is the erosion of the constitutional imperative of free expression. Marie Cocco writes for Newsday. Contact her at cocco@newsday.com. Send comments about this column to oped@northjersey.com._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #64 November 18, 2004 Uh . . . I may know a thing or two about Walt. He may not have gone out of his way to make a lot of "inclusive" programming and may have made one or two programs that by today's standards are considered politically incorrect, however, I can assure you he wasn't -against- the concept of racial equality. The Company today is one of the most diverse companies on the planet. Mostly the only color the Company cares about is green.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #65 November 18, 2004 Quote> Or is it possible that Dungy just doesn't like the idea of mixed race relationships? ?? Are there still people like that who say that stuff out loud in public? Yes. Some of them play football (and other sports I'm sure) Four players off of "my" team (yes I am an OSU fan) were recently suspended for a racial incident. You might have seen this if you follow college football.\ http://www.registerguard.com/news/2004/11/16/e1.sp.osususpends.1116.html What make this really sad is this guy was about to leave for Iraq, and on his last night in town with his wife, these guys give his wife shit for dancing with a white guy.illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #66 November 18, 2004 QuoteOr is it possible that Dungy just doesn't like the idea of mixed race relationships? This is what I thought.. that the audience had a problem with mixed raced relationships. I have met so many people who think because I am white they can make comments about mixed raced relationships, etc.. It's funny and sad to see them try to change their tune when I tell them I have a biracial daughter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #67 November 18, 2004 Quote> Or is it possible that Dungy just doesn't like the idea of mixed race relationships? ?? Are there still people like that who say that stuff out loud in public? It is so fucking pathetic how black people have free reign and can get away with comments like this because they believe in the perception that they are the minority and deserve special treatment. I cant tell you how much this pisses me off...FUCK THEM ALL...if a white person said this they would be crucified by the NAACP and every other racist organization that exists today....FUCK ALL PEOPLE OF ALL RACES THAT BELIEVE THEY DESERVE SPECIAL TREATMENT JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR done...for now at least Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #68 November 18, 2004 >It is so fucking pathetic how black people have free reign . . . Did I miss something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #69 November 18, 2004 Quote>It is so fucking pathetic how black people have free reign . . . Did I miss something? in reference to tony dungy making the comment he made and nobody in the press seeming to have an issue with it...in otherwords it is so acceptable nowadays for a black person to cry racism or assume something is racially offensive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #70 November 18, 2004 Quote>It is so fucking pathetic how black people have free reign . . . Did I miss something? Yeah...Dungy is black. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #71 November 18, 2004 QuoteQuote>It is so fucking pathetic how black people have free reign . . . Did I miss something? in reference to tony dungy making the comment he made and nobody in the press seeming to have an issue with it...in otherwords it is so acceptable nowadays for a black person to cry racism or assume something is racially offensive ...Because it was some white chick and not Halle Berry?? WTFO?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RippedCord 0 #72 November 18, 2004 Quote>It is so fucking pathetic how black people have free reign . . . Did I miss something? Yes. And we missed you at the mm march AMDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
