Gravitymaster 0 #76 November 20, 2004 QuoteI would be impressed by Condi if she appeared to have critical thinking skills and a healthy dose of personal integrity. She seems to have neither, which makes her fully qualified to be a key member of ShrubCo. I'm still laughing at this statement. Ever notice that in the Liberal World everybody is dumber than they are? Bush is dumb, Rice is dumb, the voters are dumb it's OBL fault Kerry lost the election etc. Excuse after excuse after excuse. They even have to seek therapy to get over the election, but that's someone elses fault too. Yet somehow the Republicans manage to outsmart the geniuses of Liberaldom at every turn? Somehow the Libs continue to lose again and again and again and this is the best excuse they can come up with? Some would call it almost a psychotic denial. Keep up the entertainment. We will continue to laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #77 November 20, 2004 QuoteHaven't you learned to NOT bait the ShrubCo supporters with actual quotes and factual citations that can be verified? Their reality distortion fields disallows such data. Interesting. A thinly veiled insult at the intellect of all Bush supporters. How condescending. Let's see how this is expounded upon.... Quote Take a look at the study at http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html#1 Not clicky, but this Bush supporter was able to read it anyway. I'm not impressed. Quite shallow reading actually. Quote The questions, conclusions, and methodology are listed on the site. Pretty scary. These are the folks that voted for Shrub. These are the folks you are trying to argue with. Not totally accurate, but then again left wingers have never had proclivities for accuracy. This shows your contempt for 51% of voters who made it to the polls. 'All Bush supporters are dumb. They're too stupid to agree with us and that's why they supported Bush'. Please keep up that line of thought. It bodes poorly for the future of Socialism here in the US. Quote Someone with more time than I have can Google for the news reports from 2000 about Shrub's appearance at the Economic Conference in Italy. Shrub stayed on an aircraft carries off the coast of Italy due to the threat of "aerial terrorist attacks" on land based accommodations. This was before 9/11. In other words, Condi is a liar at best and completely uninformed at worst. Please expound upon this. Looking quite forward to it. Everyone who ever read Tom Clancy's - best selling author; you might have heard of him - Debt of Honor had also heard about using planes to attack high profile targets. That 'Bush's Administration knew and did nothing argument' is just laughable. Quote Caricatures by definition exaggerate physical characteristics. The people who don’t get the reference to “aluminum tubes” show their ignorance about the “WMDs” that Iraq was supposed to have. Try Googling “Aluminum tubes” WMDs and Iraq. You’ll find plenty to read. Once you know the facts, the cartoon is pretty funny. As others have pointed out, if she was a “valley girl” instead of an American with dark colored skin, the race card never would have come out. So let me get this straight. You are actually taking the position that the use of derogatory racial stereotypes to malign a person publicly is not disgusting? Please confirm for us that you weren't one of those screaming for Trent Lott's head for his remarks at Strom Thurmond's birthday party. Quote I would be impressed by Condi if she appeared to have critical thinking skills and a healthy dose of personal integrity. She seems to have neither, which makes her fully qualified to be a key member of ShrubCo. Ahhh...Dr. Rice has no critical thinking skills, eh? Then you should be perfectly capable of dissecting her PhD dissertation and the credentials of the university that found it worthy of a PhD. Look forward to seeing that accomplished. Please back up your thoughts on her personal integrity. When we conservatives question the integrity of left wingers - say Teddy Kennedy for example - we have many facts with which to back up our arguments. Cheating on college exams, lying in police investigations, deliberately misrepresenting facts on the Senate floor - that sort of thing. Quote Condi is the first National Security Advisor that actively campaigned in a presidential election. This activity had never been performed by any NSA before her, for good reason. It isn’t supposed to be a political job. Look it up. And the Senate Intelligence committee is supposed to sublimate politics as well - did you complain about that scandal? No? Thought not. Quote Colin Powell may or may not be an “Uncle Tom”. This is a disgusting remark. Quote He sure got no respect from the ShrubCo axis of evil (Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz) This is so incorrect it just isn't funny. Quote ...and ended up looking pretty stupid as events played out. I’ll reserve judgment until I see what he has to say once he is fully out of the clutches of ShrubCo. I hope his book is as interesting a read as Clark’s was. I'm sure General Powell is anxiously awaiting your judgement. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #78 November 20, 2004 I just have to comment that I'm chuckling at your line by line response to funjumper101. Reason being when I read his post, his first one I might add, I thought it was you playing devil's advocate. His post was like a Bizarro Vinny posts. Using cute nicknames for the opposition and repeating the oft heard rhetoric, including catchy phrases and sound bites of the media. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #79 November 21, 2004 No WAY man! HH banned multiple accounts! I never had a second one that I recall, but since you bring it up it would hold some allure if it weren't illegal. Plus, I have an avid hatred of racial prejudice/stereotypes and could never defend their use to malign someone. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #80 November 21, 2004 QuoteIs John Kerry an inspiration to you? No he isn't, I dodged the draft instead going over and fighting. Signed, George W. Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #81 November 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteIs John Kerry an inspiration to you? No he isn't, I dodged the draft instead going over and fighting. Signed, George W. Bush Since when is joining the National Guard, dodging the draft? Do you understand how this is an insult to all who have served their country in the National Guard? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #82 November 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteIs John Kerry an inspiration to you? No he isn't, I dodged the draft instead going over and fighting. Signed, George W. Bush Since when is joining the National Guard, dodging the draft? Do you understand how this is an insult to all who have served their country in the National Guard? You take the reply one-dimensionally. Bush dodged the draft by getting daddy and his influential friends to enable him not to go to VN. Then, Bush had political asperations instead of military ones, so he just quit going. I don't characterize Bush's service (or lack thereof) as typical military service. Right now, with the backdoor draft, Bush is sacrificing guard and reserve members at a much higher rate than he is full-time members. I served 1 term in the AF, so I am not anti-military or anti-guard/reserve, and after what's going on in Iraq now now I'm not even anti-dodge drafter anymore. It was a semi-kidding parody to describe Bush's military service including getting 1 million dollars free fighter training while never having to have the possibility to actually be in harm's way. Bush was as big a military asset as was Clinton. DID YOU KNOW: Bush is the only president in US history that had a military background whatsoever to not voluntarily post his military record in its entirety at or before he entered office? Bush finally posted a half-baked version full of omisions at the end of his first term after considerable controversy...... I think you know I wasn't even insulting the guard or reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #83 November 21, 2004 You might want to do some news searches... Bush revealed a whole hell of a lot more of HIS records than Kerry did. You might also want to research the role the ANG played in the Vietnam war, as well. I'm sure it won't change your opinion, based on your posts, but it might just open your eyes a bit.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #84 November 21, 2004 First you say this: It was a semi-kidding parody to describe Bush's military service including getting 1 million dollars free fighter training while never having to have the possibility to actually be in harm's way. Then this: I think you know I wasn't even insulting the guard or reserve. The National Guard troops -are- off fighting in our wars. The National Guard troops are off -dying- in our wars. The National Guard troops are repaying their debt to the United States. How exactly is it that your comments aren't insulting or degrading? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #85 November 21, 2004 Quote First you say this: It was a semi-kidding parody to describe Bush's military service including getting 1 million dollars free fighter training while never having to have the possibility to actually be in harm's way. Then this: I think you know I wasn't even insulting the guard or reserve. The National Guard troops -are- off fighting in our wars. The National Guard troops are off -dying- in our wars. The National Guard troops are repaying their debt to the United States. How exactly is it that your comments aren't insulting or degrading? - Jim If you ween't so busy looking for a reason to hate me you would have seen this: "I don't characterize Bush's service (or lack thereof) as typical military service. Right now, with the backdoor draft, Bush is sacrificing guard and reserve members at a much higher rate than he is full-time members. I served 1 term in the AF, so I am not anti-military or anti-guard/reserve, and after what's going on in Iraq now now I'm not even anti-dodge drafter anymore." Right, Guard and reserve members are dying at a higher rate than are full-timers, so I am paying respect to them for their greater risk at the ultimate sacrifice. Look, either you're a Bushanite or you support terrorism as per the conservative doctrine. Truth is, I'm neither and actually served a term in the service and can appreciate the hero's over there now. I wasn't faced with war when I was in in the early 80's, but my service qualifies me to be critical if I wish. Again, not critical of the Guard or Reserve and you know it. I apologize that my political preference doesn't parallel yours..... wait, no I don't :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #86 November 21, 2004 Quote First you say this: It was a semi-kidding parody to describe Bush's military service including getting 1 million dollars free fighter training while never having to have the possibility to actually be in harm's way. Then this: I think you know I wasn't even insulting the guard or reserve. The National Guard troops -are- off fighting in our wars. The National Guard troops are off -dying- in our wars. The National Guard troops are repaying their debt to the United States. How exactly is it that your comments aren't insulting or degrading? - Jim You confuse "are" with "were". During a major war with 50,000+ US fatalities, Bush's NG unit defended Texas and Alabama from what exactly? And he apparently didn't think it too important to turn up. Times change. The NG now is not the NG then. YOU know perfectly well that NG slots were coveted 30+ years ago as a way to avoid combat. And let's not forget that on May 4, 1970, units of the Ohio National Guard Company H. 107th Armored Cavalry (Troop G) and Company A, 145th Infantry Regiment shot and killed four student protesters and wounded nine others during a demonstration against the U.S. invasion of Cambodia.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #87 November 22, 2004 QuoteIf you ween't so busy looking for a reason to hate me I don't hate you, but if you must feel persecuted, then by all means, do. QuoteI served 1 term in the AF, so I am . . . I am not demeaning your service, but simply because you served doesn't make you anti-military, anti-guard, or anti-war. There are plenty who have served and are anti-military. Is everyone else who served in the National Guard in the 60s and 70s also a draft-dodger? Do you know that guard units -did- serve in Vietnam? And that all could have? QuoteLook, either you're a Bushanite or you support terrorism as per the conservative doctrine. Now that's just silly. QuoteI wasn't faced with war when I was in in the early 80's, but my service qualifies me to be critical if I wish. No, it doesn't. What qualifies you to be critical is the fact that you are an American citizen. It's the same thing that qualifies me to be critical, Kallend to be critical, and anyone else who wishes to be. QuoteI apologize that my political preference doesn't parallel yours..... wait, no I don't :) This has nothing to do with politics and has everything to do with your demeaning position towards those who have served and those who do serve. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
