Good article on terrorism

[billvon 3,131]

Good article on preventing terrorism in USA Today, of all places. I'm glad we are still taking the real threats against the US seriously. It's all well and good to start wars, create terrorists and then claim "we're defeating terror!" by killing them, but it pays to remember that if there is another terrorist attack somewhere in the US, it will probably come from a domestic source (as the last one - the anthrax attack - did.)
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Domestic terrorism: New trouble at home

ATLANTA — Since Sept. 11, the nation's attention has been focused on possible threats from Islamic terrorists. But home-grown terrorists have been steadily plotting and carrying out attacks in unrelated incidents across the nation, according to federal authorities and two organizations that monitor hate groups.

None of the incidents over the past few years matched the devastation of 9/11 or even the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, which killed 168 and remains the deadliest act of terrorism against the nation by a U.S. citizen.

But some of the alleged domestic terrorists who have been arrested had ambitious plans. The people and groups range from white supremacists, anti-government types and militia members to eco-terrorists and people who hate corporations. They include violent anti-abortionists and black and brown nationalists who envision a separate state for blacks and Latinos. And they have been busy.

"Not a lot of attention is being paid to this, because everybody is concerned about the guy in a turban. But there are still plenty of angry, Midwestern white guys out there," says U.S. Marshals Service chief inspector Geoff Shank.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-11-14-domestic-terrorism_x.htm

[MC208B 0]

Bill, we didn't start this war on terror, we responded to the attack on the United States on Sept.11, 2001.
I suppose the prepatrators of the attack on us back then were pissed cause Clinton blew up thier aspirin factory in the Sudan or their tents in Afghanistan?!?

I notice that you have nothng to say about Mrs. Hassan being murdered, odd since you have something to say about damn near everything else here.

Why don't you try to quit being an apoligist for these worthless, terrorist motherfuckers?

I used to be one of those "angry, white midwestern" guys (STL native). Now I'm an angry white guy living in HI

[Botellines 0]

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Bill, we didn't start this war on terror, we responded to the attack on the United States on Sept.11, 2001.

I guess training OBL and his buddies on the terror ways to fight your war against the URRS does not count.

[MC208B 0]

I suppose you meant the USSR? No, it doesn't count

[MC208B 0]

Just noticed that you're Spanish. maybe if we cut and run in Iraq like your new government did afte the bombings in Madrid, the terrorist would leave us alone? Guess it worked for Spain (so far)

[billvon 3,131]

>Bill, we didn't start this war on terror, we responded to the attack on
>the United States on Sept.11, 2001.

Agreed; our attack on Afghanistan was a direct response to 9/11. But then we invaded Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. That action has made us less safe.

>Why don't you try to quit being an apoligist for these worthless,
>terrorist motherfuckers?

Because thinking with a gun instead of a brain got us into this; it won't get us out. We cannot just keep killing people until peace breaks out; endless war does not equal peace. It's not working in Israel, and it won't work in Iraq.

The terrorists in Iraq are of our own creation. It would be worthwhile to understand how we are creating them and then stop doing whatever that thing is. Running around and whacking all the beehives we can find - and then claiming "wow, look at all the angry bees we discovered in those seemingly peaceful hives!" - is not the best way to avoid being stung.

[GQ_jumper 4]

But then we invaded Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. That action has made us less safe.

In what way has liberating Iraq made us less safe? Please explain.

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

[crozby 0]

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In what way has liberating Iraq made us less safe? Please explain.

Your question implies you believe the number of people on this planet who would gladly blow themselves to bits if they could just take a load of Americans with them has not increased since the US invaded Iraq. Is that correct?

[billvon 3,131]

>In what way has liberating Iraq made us less safe?

1. Troops were pulled from the war in Afghanistan, where we were targeting Al Qaeda.

2. We've created new terrorists in Iraq. 9/11 has proven that just because they're way over there does not mean they can't get to us or our assets.

3. Terrorism worldwide is up.

4. 1000 american troops have died since the start of the war, mostly from terrorist activities.

5. We are losing the support of our allies; our allies have made most of the arrests/killings of Al Qaeda leaders since 9/11.

[storm1977 0]

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>In what way has liberating Iraq made us less safe?

1. Troops were pulled from the war in Afghanistan, where we were targeting Al Qaeda.
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Hahahahaaa

The day we had invaded Iraq we had more troops in Afganistan than we did 3 months prior, and 6 months prior to that......

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Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

[lawrocket 3]

Condensed version:

"With the exception of the 9/11 attack, nothing's changed in the terrorism front since the early 1990's."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[billvon 3,131]

>With the exception of the 9/11 attack, nothing's changed in the terrorism
>front since the early 1990's.

From a CNN story on a State Department report on terrorism:
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State Department spokesman Richard Boucher . . told reporters that the corrected report will show "a sharp increase over the previous year." The corrected version is not yet completed, he said.
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Note that they first released an erroneous report saying terrorism was down; you may have seen that and gotten a false sense things were getting better.

[lawrocket 3]

But, it's also important to note that when police cracj down, there is always a reported incidence of arrests, hence higher crime reports.

Also, when you make something that was arson another crime, like terrorism, you'll find that reports of terrorism tend to go up. There's bound to be a sharp peak in terrorist incidents when every briefcase left at the bus stop is a "terrorist incident."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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The day we had invaded Iraq we had more troops in Afganistan than we did 3 months prior, and 6 months prior to that......

I am interested to see where you get that information from.