Would you really shoot?

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Nope, didn't mean you. I think what I was referring to is demonstrated right after your post.

Yeah. Its sad when someone shares similar view points with another person, but the 1st person is ashamed of the actions of the 2nd person, since it makes the view point look extremist and marginalizes the 1st person's arguements. Unfortunately that happens a LOT on heated issues. Look at abortion, there are quite a few folks that don't believe abortion is morally right, but they're ashamed of the extremist religious groups standing outside of Planned Parenthood everyday.

Aww, come on, why are you trying to protect me by not mentioning me by name? It is me, right? Right?

-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[AggieDave 6]

Is that a guilty concious? If it is, then maybe you should think about it. If its not, then why are you worried about it?

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Is that a guilty concious? If it is, then maybe you should think about it. If its not, then why are you worried about it?

Well, not a guilty conscience in the sense that I think I'm doing something wrong... Just that I'm being referred to.

The fact is that yes, I do end up making similar statments repeatedly on the subject of gun ownership. But it is not always to the same audience, and there are nuances that are articulated -- and I am not the one initiating the question/answer session. I'm just getting involved in a discussion as it builds. Should I recuse myself from any gun thread because I have already commented in a few of them before? If so, then there are a bunch more people, yourself included, who should do the same -- if repeating oneself is such a fucking crime.

-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[Kennedy 0]

Hell, if the same people keep putting up ill-informed informed opinions or positions, I have no problem repeating myself and correcting them every time.

I don't know about everyone else, but I enjoy posting to dz.com, even when it gets a little heated.

If you don't want to hear from me, avoid topics everyone knows are sensitive to me, or ignore me when I post.

Or expect to be offered cheese at every occasion.

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[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Hell, if the same people keep putting up ill-informed informed opinions or positions, I have no problem repeating myself and correcting them every time.

I don't know about everyone else, but I enjoy posting to dz.com, even when it gets a little heated.

If you don't want to hear from me, avoid topics everyone knows are sensitive to me, or ignore me when I post.

Or expect to be offered cheese at every occasion.

What he said.

Thanks, Kennedy.

-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[PhillyKev 0]

Well, since I made the initial comment, I'll clarify. I was referring to the habit of a couple of people (and yes, you included) to make multiple posts in a row to the same thread. That's generally considered bad netiquette. The preferred method of responding to multiple issues by multiple people is to summarize your thoughts and post a cohesive statement so that the flow of the topic doesn't keep jumping back and forth.

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

Well, see, that's something that would be hard for me to help. It's currently 03:23 eastern standard time. Not many yanks are posting at this hour. I come on after working all night and find a lot of posts to which I feel my replies are warranted.

To make them all part of one reply would cause many of them to lose coherence, or lose their punch.

That's why you'll see three, five in a row by me. Sorry if it bothers you. That's the way it goes. It's just me catching up.

-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"I think we are arriving at the crux of this matter, and that is, non-gun-owning leftists tend to withhold trust of their fellow human beings. They assume the worst of their fellow human beings. They live in fear of their fellow human beings. And then they insist that they do not need guns for protection."

I'm sorry, I'm not following your rationale here.
You're saying that we don't trust others and think they will attack us, ergo we don't carry weapons to defend ourselves against such an eventuality?

"They assume the worst of their fellow human beings."
Why do you carry a gun if you don't think your fellow human being will attack you?

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[AggieDave 6]

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"They assume the worst of their fellow human beings."
Why do you carry a gun if you don't think your fellow human being will attack you

See, that's the catch, its not the humans...well it is, but generally speaking, the reason why we carry weapons is to protect ourselves against the humans that have been taken over by the brain slugs from outter space. Once they become a host body, their humanity is gone and they become violent, violence is what they use to capture other hosts for the brain slug's offspring. All in all its a scary ordeal, so pretty much I have to assume that if you're not pro-gun and pro-personal defense then you're a brain slug from outter space host body and are a threat.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[nacmacfeegle 0]

Ah, I see, I'm anti guns here, because I don't think I (or anyone else) need them.

I am however, pro laser blaster, and am looking at upgrading to an energy pulse rifle.
"Once they become a host body, their humanity is gone and they become violent, violence is what they use to capture other hosts for the brain slug's offspring."

This makes everything crystal clear to me now, I suspect the insidious brain slugs are already amongst us.
Thanks Dave.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[freethefly 6]

From somebody who has been shot before. HELL YES. I used a knfe on the prick who shot me. If I had my gun at the time, I would had blown the MFs head off. I was grazed on the left side of my head. There was so much blood I thought a good portion of my skull must be gone. When we got back to the bike shop and cleaned the wound it turned out to be about a one inch graze. Another inch to the right and it would had been in the brain pan.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[airtwardo 7]

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I have to assume that if you're not pro-gun and pro-personal defense then you're a brain slug from outter space host body and are a threat.

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Oh great...nice going Dave!

Now the Brain Slugs KNOW that we know about them.

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

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am looking at upgrading to an energy pulse rifle.

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Which model would you suggest?

I suspect the insidious brain slugs are already amongst us.

how else would you explain Mike Tyson?

Roy

They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

[christelsabine 1]

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how else would you explain Mike Tyson?

But, he still is US American, right?

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[nacmacfeegle 0]

"Which model would you suggest?"

I don't really know, I just got my hands on Halo2 last night so am having some fun plinking away at invading Bugs, Aliens, and Brain Slugs.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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"I think we are arriving at the crux of this matter, and that is, non-gun-owning leftists tend to withhold trust of their fellow human beings. They assume the worst of their fellow human beings. They live in fear of their fellow human beings. And then they insist that they do not need guns for protection."

I'm sorry, I'm not following your rationale here.
You're saying that we don't trust others and think they will attack us, ergo we don't carry weapons to defend ourselves against such an eventuality?

"They assume the worst of their fellow human beings."
Why do you carry a gun if you don't think your fellow human being will attack you?

I didn't say I didn't think others would attack me.
I have a problem with leftists assuming the worst of others, and using that as an excuse to claim they shouldn't have guns -- and then insisting that those of us who want to protect against this pernicious humanity may not have guns.

-Jeffrey

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[nacmacfeegle 0]

Ah, its cleared up now.

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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

[white_falcon 0]

in a word?

yes.

been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

scott

[rwieder 0]

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Ok this is a question aimed at those with concealed carry licenses but feel free to answer anyways.

So would you really shoot if the time came? I have had my carry license for about 8 months now and still can't give myself a straight answer to whether or not I would pull the trigger in a deserving situation. It is a split second decision to make a mistake or to save your life. One puts you in jail for the rest of your life and the other allows you to take another breath in freedom.

i wouldn't let a 1/10th of a second elapse before i'd drop the hammer, if i knew i was justified. no decision.....period. i never go anywhere unheeled...ever.

-Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"