SH - Ties to terror/Oil for food

[storm1977 0]

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>That is not PUNISHING me....

Requiring you to pay more isn't punishing you? So it wouldn't matter if the fine for speeding was $50 or $50,000, it wouldn't be a punishment?

Most people see financial penalties as punishments. So does our government, since fines are often part of legal judgements.

Apples and oranges on the tax vs. speeding. Speeding tickets are a penalty for breaking the law.

The laws say for example: if you make 100K, your tax rate is 40%. You are allowed to donate money to charity and a deduction on your income will be allowed.

I can chooses to donate or not. It is not a PENALTY if I choose not to. It is an insentive I AM not taking advantage of.

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[PhillyKev 0]

And how about my example?

[storm1977 0]

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And how about my example?

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If you buy a bunch of stolen property from someone thinking that it's not stolen, and the police find it in your garage, they can and will take it, and they're not going to give you back the money you lost.

This one is true, but there are exceptions.... i will have to look up ithe exact rules, but it has to do with money and property which changes hands.
The example had something to do with counterfit $$$ which changed hands several times. I believe it could only bee confiscated if it was liquidized or currency. If the money was used to purchase something, you were allowed to keep it, but the new owner of the now passed bad money would not get the money returned.... There are some whacky laws with stuff like that.

But yes I agree... If you FOUND money which was stolen that is one thing... If you FIND money which is lost, that is another,

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Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty