quade 4 #1 November 14, 2004 Should the U.S. Constitution be amended so that Schwarzenegger can run for U.S. President? http://www.amendforarnold.com/quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #2 November 14, 2004 OK. I voted to amend, BUT NOT FOR ARNIE!!!!! My argument would be that ANY person who is naturalised as a US citizen, AND has lived in the US for the majority (over 50%) of his life and not less than 18 years, SHOULD be eligible to hold ANY political office in what has bocome his country. Thus, eligibility for the office of President would no longer be restricted to an accident of birth. I believe that this is in the spirit of the original Constitution which in the early years of the United States did in fact provide for "Americans by Choice" to become President. This loss of eligibility has only disappeared due to passage of time and I believe that this was not the intentions of the original draftees of the constitution. So yeah... Amend. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gkc1436 3 #3 November 14, 2004 NO! not born here.... not elected here period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #4 November 14, 2004 QuoteNO! not born here.... not elected here period. How about "not taxed here" then, if they can't enjoy 100% of the rights?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 November 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteNO! not born here.... not elected here period. How about "not taxed here" then, if they can't enjoy 100% of the rights? Hmmm.....kallend thinks you should not have to pay if you can't be president??? Soooooo, it is a right have a chance to be president??? I'm confused"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 November 14, 2004 It does say "US Citizen" right? Why doesn't he just apply for citizenship? I'd rather see it amended to correct the age discrimination worded into it.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #7 November 14, 2004 QuoteHow about "not taxed here" then, if they can't enjoy 100% of the rights? That would be quite nice. No taxes for me until age 35! FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #8 November 14, 2004 Hell no. This would set the stage for the mother of all "Sleeper" agents for foreign espionage. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Sleeper_agent It really does not speak well for California when they send another Actor to Sacramento, and now want to amend the constitution to send another to DC... Maybe I'll run for president of France, so I can dissolve it and parcel it out to neigboring countries... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 November 14, 2004 Quote It really does not speak well for California when they send another Actor to Sacramento, and now want to amend the constitution to send another to DC... It should be noted that not all of California voted for Schwarzenegger to be Governor and it is only a very small handful of people that are pushing for this Amendment at this time. The good thing about Schwarzenegger is that he brings a certain "focus" to any issue he's for or against. The bad thing is that he's not really any more effective at getting things done than any other politician. He swept into office pretty much on name recognition alone, but hasn't -really- done much of anything to fix the problems of California. Most of the issues he backed in the last election failed miserably. As for the wording of the Constitution, I do not see any reason at this time to change it for the purposes of allowing non-native born citizens or to lower the age limits for qualifications of the U.S. Presidency.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #10 November 14, 2004 I believe that to the be leader of a country you should be born there. I'm sorry if that offends people, but that's what I belive."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #11 November 14, 2004 the "terminator" is a cool guy but he wasn't born here. Nope, no change to allow that. 35 seems plenty young to be president too IMHO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #12 November 14, 2004 I don't think a person should have to be born here to run for President. I think they should be required to have been a Citizen and lived here for a certain amount of time, but I don't see why the place of birth should matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #13 November 14, 2004 QuoteShould the U.S. Constitution be amended so that Schwarzenegger can run for U.S. President? http://www.amendforarnold.com/ No, the constitution should not be amended so that the governator can become president. Rather it *should* be amended so that any US Citizen can run for any elected office, including president. Remember that the prez has to be elected. If the majority of americans want some US citizen, any US citizen to be their president, then why shouldn't they have that right? (please no popular/electoral tangents). You really think some sleeper agent with mixed loyalties would be able to get him/herself elected president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbarry 0 #14 November 14, 2004 Quote How about "not taxed here" then, if they can't enjoy 100% of the rights? The taxation is for your representation. To be allowed to run for president is a right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayruss 0 #16 November 15, 2004 QuoteNO! not born here.... not elected here period. the first few presidents were not born here . . . __________________________________________________ "Beware how you take away hope from another human being." -Oliver Wendell Holmes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #17 November 15, 2004 I say no, but, it is on its way! And the American people will let it happen! Suckers!!!!! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #18 November 15, 2004 QuoteHow about "not taxed here" then, if they can't enjoy 100% of the rights? Goofy - Half the citizens of the country don't pay federal taxes. Typical rich liberal position. Willing to pay more, but then the rest of the country has to follow their rules, no matter how arbitrary. Perhaps it would be more fair to say citizenship is qualified by military service to his/her country (a la Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #19 November 15, 2004 No. You have to have a damn good reason to change the US constitution, and "there's this cool guy who could run for president!" is not one of those reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #20 November 15, 2004 Incidentally, the "Arnie Amendment" probably wouldn't work all that well for Arnie: http://www.chortler.com/1512poll.html For a more relevant poll! and the current results (if you can't be bothered to vote... http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark?pollID=874753 As you can clearly see, Pamela Anderson is in a strong position... Perhaps because of her policies on inflation? Also, Jim Carrey would be an excellent choice - he casn already impersonate most of the past Presidents anyway. Still... Let the "election" commence. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 November 15, 2004 QuoteIncidentally, the "Arnie Amendment" probably wouldn't work all that well for Arnie: http://www.chortler.com/1512poll.html Should it actually happen, probably will be too late for him, but he would be a very strong candidate after two terms of a Democrat (like in 2000). He can deliver California again, get the GOP stronghold states, and, well, really that's all it takes. He'd have a much harder time in the primary process, given his 'moral history.' There the fundies would go at him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 November 15, 2004 Quote The good thing about Schwarzenegger is that he brings a certain "focus" to any issue he's for or against. The bad thing is that he's not really any more effective at getting things done than any other politician. He swept into office pretty much on name recognition alone, but hasn't -really- done much of anything to fix the problems of California. Most of the issues he backed in the last election failed miserably. He failed badly to out Democrats (0/11, I believe), but he did quite well on the initiatives. As a politician it's too early to say anything more than he is doing better than Davis. Even Davis agrees there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wzettler 0 #23 November 15, 2004 Quotethe first few presidents were not born here . . . Which ones?? I think when Jesus said "love your enemy" he probably meant don't kill them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 November 15, 2004 ***the first few presidents were not born here . . . Wrong. Thanks for playing. Tell him what he wins Bob... Ok, seriously, every elected president has been born in the US, even George Washington. Sounds like you need to spend some time learning some American history.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #25 November 15, 2004 QuoteOk, seriously, every elected president has been born in the US, even George Washington. Sounds like you need to spend some time learning some American history. ???????????????????? I was under the impression that when George Washington was born there was no US..... Wasn't he a founding father? How could he have been born in the US if he helped create it?Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
