Would you snub a fellow skydiver b/c of his politics?

[Gravitymaster 0]

After reading how a jumper felt he was snubbed, while in Europe because he is an American, I wonderd what most skydivers thought about jumping with those who hold different political views.

[TheAnvil 0]

No way! Billvon is cool!

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[mr2mk1g 10]

No, never.

[Paulipod 0]

Depends if his political beliefs led him/her to be an asshole.

For example, wouldnt necessarily hang or be nice openly to someone with views like being a Nazi or strong member of the BNP etc...

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[Gawain 0]

Generally no. There's always an exception however, I guess it would depend on how overtly they expressed their views and what those views were (for example: mainstream politics, no big deal. Neo-nationalist-socialist or facist ideals, that would be a problem. Or, if they were Canadian -- )

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[nacmacfeegle 0]

Depends what kind of beer he/she brings.
No, I don't think I would snub, insult, or harass someone on the DZ because of their political views.

If they were mysogenistic baby eating racist bigots, I probably wouldn't hang with them, or go out of my way to be friendly, but everyday folks of a different political flavva, nope, wouldn't snub them.

Trent, Aggiedave, Conway, and Gemini didn't treat me, a vile socialist Euopean, like that when I was in Texas, and likewise I didn't rail on them either. We just had a hatful of fun and good times.

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[Airman1270 0]

No. We're all friends, at least until you push me away.

We disagree about a bunch of things, but we skydive. I love you, man.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

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Depends if his political beliefs led him/her to be an asshole.

For example, wouldnt necessarily hang or be nice openly to someone with views like being a Nazi or strong member of the BNP etc...

I agree with snubbing someone for being an asshole, but I suspect most would not want to jump with an asshole regardless of their political views. Likewise, I wouldn't jump with someone who was part of a terrorist group.

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"Likewise, I wouldn't jump with someone who was part of a terrorist group. "

How would you know?

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"Likewise, I wouldn't jump with someone who was part of a terrorist group. "

How would you know?

OK change that to "if I knew they were part of a terrorist group"

[Kennedy 0]

Hey, I have Mormons in the family. I can handle chilling with just about anybody.

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[nacmacfeegle 0]

"I can handle chilling with just about anybody."

I've had lots of beers with my right wing friends, I've even been known to fraternise with English people.
You know how hard that is for a Scot to admit.

I'm an open minded agnostic, Budhist if anything, so religious types don't really phase me either.

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[tigra 0]

No, but I have to admit some of the views I've seen expressed here in this forum are radically different from what I believe, and I don't consider myself to be all that liberal, and I'm definitely NOT "left wing". Some of the hate and intolerance expressed here has been pretty shocking, bordering on bigotry, and I do have a hard time hanging with bigots in general.

[livendive 8]

Not a chance. Some of my best friends have political views that are dramatically different from mine. We joke about having to get smarter friends, and sometimes the discussions get a bit heated, but I love sharing air with them and downing a beer or twelve with them at the end of the day. Something as trivial as politics will never get in the way of that.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

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Not a chance. Some of my best friends have political views that are dramatically different from mine. We joke about having to get smarter friends, and sometimes the discussions get a bit heated, but I love sharing air with them and downing a beer or twelve with them at the end of the day. Something as trivial as politics will never get in the way of that.

My sentiments too. When we are at the DZ, we are more concerned with getting the exit right, making sure everyone understands their slot, giving gear checks etc. Very seldom is politics discussed and even when it is, I can honestly say that I would never refuse to jump with someone based on their political leanings. I can also say I have not yet had a discussion with anybody on DZ.Com, that I wouldn't be honored to share some air with.

I am disturbed by the number of people who would hold someones political leanings against them and even go so far as to make them feel unwelcomed at their DZ because of it. Thats not what skydiving is about and I am amazed at the number of people who don't "get it".

[Zenister 0]

only if they were an ass about their politics, wanting to argue it constantly in person or attempting to enforce their beliefs on others around... although i have often wondered how some manage to fall stable, consistently pull, and land safely with their head up their 4th point of contact

the point in being on the DZ is to jump, play and party. Anything that interferes with those goals i dont have time for while at the dropzone. We can argue about any and everything else when there isnt anything better to do....

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[wmw999 2,588]

I'd be cool with them for being an asshole. Some people wear their politics on their asshole, but that has to do with the person, not the politics.

I can't really imagine myself actually snubbing someone or treating them particularly rudely, unless it was cluelessness. I can be good at being clueless

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only if they were an ass about their politics, wanting to argue it constantly in person or attempting to enforce their beliefs on others around... although i have often wondered how some manage to fall stable, consistently pull, and land safely with their head up their 4th point of contact

the point in being on the DZ is to jump, play and party. Anything that interferes with those goals i dont have time for while at the dropzone. We can argue about any and everything else when there isnt anything better to do....

I agree that if someone is offensive about anything, I'd be less inclined to want to jump with them. I think it's quite another issue to snub someone purely based on the country they are from or what their political leanings are. In fact I think snubbing someone for such a shallow reason is acting like an ass.

[bigway 4]

only if he/she had the same views as me.
no, never ever. Politics are rubbish, people who want to talk about them and bring them up have eiter had a bad day or a horrible day. when ever you talk about politics it is just an argument, we only talk about them if we are looking for an argument, aye peacefulljeffery

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[slug 1]

IMO DZ's are for jumping or partying. If you want to talk politic's take it outside. If you want to borrow money or a lift ticket go home.

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[billvon 3,116]

Sadly, some do. An arab jumper at Perris recently changed his name to a very Anglo-sounding name to try to cut down on the abuse he was getting. (In defense of skydivers, most of the abuse came from people at bars, not at the DZ.)

[Shotgun 1]

It depends on how different their views are from mine and how much they try to push their views on me... For example: If someone was constantly talking about how bad homosexuality is or constantly trying to convert me to Christianity (or any other religion) then yeah, I would "snub" them. But luckily I have not yet met a skydiver who behaved like that; in fact, I don't even know what the political views ARE of most of the skydivers I know. I do know some openly religious skydivers, but I have no problem with their religion because they do not try to preach to me. (And I do not try to convince them to stop believing in God.)

[Nightingale 0]

not unless they were an asshole or tried to push their views on me, or attacked me instead of the issues. Out of everyone I've met on this board, there's maybe four I wouldn't want to hang out with, and that would depend on if they're different in person than they are online.

[tunaplanet 0]

If anyone at a DZ started talking politics I would tell them to shut their hole. No one wants to hear that babble at a DZ.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

wouldn't snub them on a dz, or in any other environment