AggieDave 6 #301 November 4, 2004 QuoteAmerica has spoken and said that about half of us didn't want him in the office. There has always been 1/2 (well, mostly, there are some obvious exceptions) of the country "against" a president. The biggest point is that OVER 1/2 of the country did NOT want Kerry as their president. That's a bigger mandate then less than half against. Beyond the actual presidental votes, then increasing of the size of the republican side of the house and senate are also considered mandates from the American people.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #302 November 4, 2004 I'll give the "mandate" title to the areas of the country that were over a 10% split. THAT'S a mandate (actually that's the definition of a landslide in political terms). So, yes, GWB got a mandate from a number of states, but if that is true, then look at the results in California.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #303 November 4, 2004 Quotethen look at the results in California. Those of use actually based in reality tend to ignore the fruits and nuts in California. Sort of like how most Texans ignore folks in Austin. Anyways, I still feel like you're ignorning the fact that OVER 1/2 of the voting population voted AGAINST Kerry. Sorry you lost guy, better luck next time, although if both houses of congress stays similar to it is now, then it won't really matter.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #304 November 4, 2004 QuoteNo matter what side you are on, let's move on and get the country moving forward TOGETHER!! Couldn't agree more. I'm really impressed with what Kerry did. It was the right thing to do for the country. The nation is already divided and a lot of healing has to take place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #305 November 4, 2004 Um, they did win the White House, so thank you for being in agreement with me. Quote I'm not agreeing with you, don't let the facts get in the way. I'm willing to help bridge the gap, are you? I gave credit to Kerry, you won't give credit to anyone with different views. Deal with it my friend! "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #306 November 4, 2004 You can spin it any way you'd like but the bottom line is Bush won. Your man brought nothing to the table except for flip-flops and hatred. The country saw right through him. Better luck next election. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #307 November 4, 2004 Love it. You can't even see what I've been saying. He was never "my man". "My man" never really got the chance to run.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #308 November 4, 2004 QuoteMy man" never really got the chance to run. Arnold won't be able to run until the bill passes changing the law to 20 years of citizenship. Sorry Paul. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #309 November 4, 2004 Quotebut that's a little like saying that a loaf of bread cost more now than at any time in history. Apples and oranges in this case. Go do some homework like I did. You'll see there are indeed more people in the US (obviously) compared to 2000 but not by much if you want to put it in perspective. Regardless on how the DNC manual tells you to spin that issue you can't spin this...he's the first president since 88 to win the popular majority. He beat your man by roughly 3.5 million votes. Pretty decisive. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Segador 0 #310 November 4, 2004 QuoteIf he thinks the entire country is for him at this point, he's delusional. Agreed... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jdhill 0 #311 November 4, 2004 QuoteWhat fear does he have? He will push the PA Pt2 thru, and he has a majority to help it get approved The HoR is up for re-election in less than 2 years, a thrid of the Senate is up re-election in less than 2 years... those up for re-election are already thinking about it, and thatshould keep the PAII from going overboard... There is a reason the sunset provisions were put in, everyone knew it was a kneejerk reaction to 9/11. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #312 November 4, 2004 GWB did NOT beat anyone. Karl Rove did.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycop 0 #313 November 4, 2004 Give me a break, you are much smarter than that, deal with it and grow up!! "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #314 November 4, 2004 QuoteGWB did NOT beat anyone. Karl Rove did. Interesting opinion. Like all election campaigns it's a team effort. However the vast majority of the reason Bush won is because of Bush himself. You can tell yourself that Rove won it for him every night before you go to sleep for the next four years but it doesn't make it true. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #315 November 4, 2004 Quote He beat your man by roughly 3.5 million votes. Pretty decisive. 3.5 out of 115 million? That is decisive? Regan's victory was decisive. There are not many more people in this country? Huh? As compared to last week, yes....but from 1968 or 1944? Yup, a lot more. Since you did the homework - post your research numbers, links and all other emperical data you used to come up with this conclusion._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #316 November 4, 2004 Yes, it's a team effort. Karl ran a -very- good campaign . . . He crafted GWB in the image of a guy that's tough on defense (which isn't too much of a stretch, he IS tough (yet misguided)) and a "moral" leader (which is a HUGE freekin' stretch based on GWB's early years). Further, Karl was able to coordinate a number of 527s while maintaining plausable deniability. Karl is a brilliant political strategist. (Evil, yet still brilliant.) I congratulate him.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #317 November 4, 2004 QuoteFurther, Karl was able to coordinate a number of 527s while maintaining plausable deniability. Conspiracy theory, huh? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #318 November 4, 2004 Gimme a break . . . It was -the- loophole and to think Rove -didn't- take advantage of it is to think he is an idiot.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #319 November 4, 2004 Post some facts to that when get a chance. Would love to see how he orchestrated that with the 527s. When does Rove go on trial for this illegal act? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #320 November 4, 2004 I -believe- I mentioned the plausable deniability already. It's simply a loophole that needs to be closed.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #321 November 4, 2004 Quoteplausable deniability When you get some proof float it our way. Until then we'll categorize it with Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster and UFOs. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StevePhelps 0 #322 November 4, 2004 QuoteYippee. Anybody else thinking of leaving the country? As they say, "Don't let the door hit you on your butt on the way out!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mardigrasbob 0 #323 November 4, 2004 QuoteQuoteYippee. Anybody else thinking of leaving the country? As they say, "Don't let the door hit you on your butt on the way out!" I am sure Mexico is bracing for the massive influx of illegals sneaking into their country seeking a better life. ------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #324 November 4, 2004 QuotePost some facts to that when get a chance. This coming from a person that claims he did his homework and has seen numbers, but won't present that information when asked._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #325 November 4, 2004 QuoteQuoteIf the republicans just won the White House I'd have to agree with you Um, they did win the White House, so thank you for being in agreement with me. Popular vote shows half the country didn't wan't Bush in there. Deal with that. He meant "if they had only won the whitehouse." He was trying to point out that the Republicans also extended their majorities in both the House and the Senate. In just about every seriously contested race, Republicans came out on top. While I don't think that's best, that is America speaking. Oh, and as for your "half don't want Bush" line - let it go. Less than half didn't want him. More than half did want him. There were record turnouts in numbers and precentages, and Bush spanked Kerry and good.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Next Page 13 of 15 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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tunaplanet 0 #306 November 4, 2004 You can spin it any way you'd like but the bottom line is Bush won. Your man brought nothing to the table except for flip-flops and hatred. The country saw right through him. Better luck next election. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #307 November 4, 2004 Love it. You can't even see what I've been saying. He was never "my man". "My man" never really got the chance to run.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #308 November 4, 2004 QuoteMy man" never really got the chance to run. Arnold won't be able to run until the bill passes changing the law to 20 years of citizenship. Sorry Paul. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #309 November 4, 2004 Quotebut that's a little like saying that a loaf of bread cost more now than at any time in history. Apples and oranges in this case. Go do some homework like I did. You'll see there are indeed more people in the US (obviously) compared to 2000 but not by much if you want to put it in perspective. Regardless on how the DNC manual tells you to spin that issue you can't spin this...he's the first president since 88 to win the popular majority. He beat your man by roughly 3.5 million votes. Pretty decisive. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Segador 0 #310 November 4, 2004 QuoteIf he thinks the entire country is for him at this point, he's delusional. Agreed... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #311 November 4, 2004 QuoteWhat fear does he have? He will push the PA Pt2 thru, and he has a majority to help it get approved The HoR is up for re-election in less than 2 years, a thrid of the Senate is up re-election in less than 2 years... those up for re-election are already thinking about it, and thatshould keep the PAII from going overboard... There is a reason the sunset provisions were put in, everyone knew it was a kneejerk reaction to 9/11. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #312 November 4, 2004 GWB did NOT beat anyone. Karl Rove did.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #313 November 4, 2004 Give me a break, you are much smarter than that, deal with it and grow up!! "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #314 November 4, 2004 QuoteGWB did NOT beat anyone. Karl Rove did. Interesting opinion. Like all election campaigns it's a team effort. However the vast majority of the reason Bush won is because of Bush himself. You can tell yourself that Rove won it for him every night before you go to sleep for the next four years but it doesn't make it true. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #315 November 4, 2004 Quote He beat your man by roughly 3.5 million votes. Pretty decisive. 3.5 out of 115 million? That is decisive? Regan's victory was decisive. There are not many more people in this country? Huh? As compared to last week, yes....but from 1968 or 1944? Yup, a lot more. Since you did the homework - post your research numbers, links and all other emperical data you used to come up with this conclusion._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #316 November 4, 2004 Yes, it's a team effort. Karl ran a -very- good campaign . . . He crafted GWB in the image of a guy that's tough on defense (which isn't too much of a stretch, he IS tough (yet misguided)) and a "moral" leader (which is a HUGE freekin' stretch based on GWB's early years). Further, Karl was able to coordinate a number of 527s while maintaining plausable deniability. Karl is a brilliant political strategist. (Evil, yet still brilliant.) I congratulate him.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #317 November 4, 2004 QuoteFurther, Karl was able to coordinate a number of 527s while maintaining plausable deniability. Conspiracy theory, huh? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #318 November 4, 2004 Gimme a break . . . It was -the- loophole and to think Rove -didn't- take advantage of it is to think he is an idiot.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #319 November 4, 2004 Post some facts to that when get a chance. Would love to see how he orchestrated that with the 527s. When does Rove go on trial for this illegal act? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #320 November 4, 2004 I -believe- I mentioned the plausable deniability already. It's simply a loophole that needs to be closed.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #321 November 4, 2004 Quoteplausable deniability When you get some proof float it our way. Until then we'll categorize it with Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster and UFOs. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #322 November 4, 2004 QuoteYippee. Anybody else thinking of leaving the country? As they say, "Don't let the door hit you on your butt on the way out!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mardigrasbob 0 #323 November 4, 2004 QuoteQuoteYippee. Anybody else thinking of leaving the country? As they say, "Don't let the door hit you on your butt on the way out!" I am sure Mexico is bracing for the massive influx of illegals sneaking into their country seeking a better life. ------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #324 November 4, 2004 QuotePost some facts to that when get a chance. This coming from a person that claims he did his homework and has seen numbers, but won't present that information when asked._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #325 November 4, 2004 QuoteQuoteIf the republicans just won the White House I'd have to agree with you Um, they did win the White House, so thank you for being in agreement with me. Popular vote shows half the country didn't wan't Bush in there. Deal with that. He meant "if they had only won the whitehouse." He was trying to point out that the Republicans also extended their majorities in both the House and the Senate. In just about every seriously contested race, Republicans came out on top. While I don't think that's best, that is America speaking. Oh, and as for your "half don't want Bush" line - let it go. Less than half didn't want him. More than half did want him. There were record turnouts in numbers and precentages, and Bush spanked Kerry and good.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
