peacefuljeffrey 0 #276 November 3, 2004 All the talk about the provisional ballots left uncounted as yet in Ohio is kind of moot when you consider what they were talking about on NBC late Tuesday. They brought up the point that NOT ALL PROVISIONAL BALLOTS GET COUNTED because the fact that they ARE "provisional" means there is a serious doubt that the ballot is valid, i.e. the voter may be a felon, etc. They said that traditionally, 7%-20% of provisional ballots actually get counted towards the actual vote tally. Now that is to say, even if Kerry got every single provisional ballot vote in his favor, it's still not likely to be a large percentage of those outstanding ballots in the first place. Take 7-20% of however many provisional ballots were cast, and even if he gets all of them, he can't close the Ohio gap. I am one who does not delight until victory is assured beyond all doubt, so I'll just keep quiet for now. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #277 November 3, 2004 I am just gratified that Florida went overwhelmingly for Bush. It gives CERTAIN LIE to the bullshit leftist newspapers here in Palm Beach County and nearby: The Palm Beach Post, The Sun-Sentinel, The Miami Herald... which, for the longest time, have been giving overwhelming space on their editorial pages (letters to the editor, specifically) to Kerry supporters who badmouthed Bush ad nauseum. I wonder how they will explain the lopsided anti-Bush coverage and exposure, given that Florida voted for Bush with a far greater margin than we did in 2000. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #278 November 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteBut at least one good thing has come from this election so far... Looks like California has voted yes to state-funded embryonic stem cell research. And don't forget everyone in Alaska will be lighting up real soon Actually they won't... They voted no to marijuana legalization. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #279 November 3, 2004 QuoteThey said that traditionally, 7%-20% of provisional ballots actually get counted towards the actual vote tally. As I recall hearing last night - Ohio had provisional ballots in 2000, and about 90% of them were judged legitimate. Even at 90%, though, its a lost cause. Kerry needs to cowboy up and concede gracefully. At least Al Gore had a legitimate shot at his endless recounts affecting the outcome. Going to the provisionals is a self-absorbed exercise in futility that just delays the closure this country needs.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #280 November 3, 2004 QuoteI'm more curious where PK is. Funny that he got quiet all of a sudden. What's the point of posting a one liner directed at another poster in this forum, with no discussion of the issues? Play the ball, not the player, please.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #281 November 3, 2004 Are you kidding ME??? CA voted for the stem cell research? WOW.... CA has some real problems!!!! Does anyone know what that was about? Stem Cell research is already Legal. So CA voted to alot 3 billion in tax dollars to research annually. That is one of the dumbest things I have every heard of. Why should the Public pay for that when private institutions could pay for it? As if the $$$ problems in CA weren't enough, the people there just went and screwed themselves again!!!! Have fun paying those taxes everyone!!!! Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mardigrasbob 0 #282 November 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteCheddar or Provolone? He's more of a Swiss man. Cheez-Wiz Dammit!!!!!!!!!!! CHEEZ-WIZ [/B] ---------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solinari 0 #283 November 3, 2004 I live in Ohio and voted for the amendment making marriage between a man and a women. I was pretty torn about the my decision, because the amendment did not have a clause for civil unions, which I am for. I don't know still contemplating my decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage63 0 #284 November 3, 2004 Kerry throws in the towel. Bush wins Let's all get back together Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #285 November 3, 2004 QuoteI live in Ohio and voted for the amendment making marriage between a man and a women. I was pretty torn about the my decision, because the amendment did not have a clause for civil unions, which I am for. I don't know still contemplating my decision. So you just voted to have discrimination written into the constitution and to keep some people from having the same rights as yourself. Oh well, it's your right to vote. (Though I'm hoping you'll change your mind if the issue ends up on the ballot again.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunman 0 #286 November 3, 2004 Damn, I thought the high voter turnout would give Kerry an edge. Damn was I wrong. Four more years of low income jobs, high health care cost, and reckless foreign policy. Interesting that drug stocks went up and stem cell stocks went down. I guess it's all about keeping us hooked on drugs instead of providing real cures. Yippee. Anybody else thinking of leaving the country? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #287 November 3, 2004 QuoteDamn, I thought the high voter turnout would give Kerry an edge. Damn was I wrong. Four more years of low income jobs, high health care cost, and reckless foreign policy. Interesting that drug stocks went up and stem cell stocks went down. I guess it's all about keeping us hooked on drugs instead of providing real cures. Yippee. Anybody else thinking of leaving the country? Canada is only a 5 hour drive from here! Don't forget about the environment, social security, defeceit, civil liberties, personal security, more terrorism, more wars, drilling for oil in Alaska, more tax cuts for the rich, etc. America will never be the same._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solinari 0 #288 November 3, 2004 you'll have that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #289 November 3, 2004 Please, Feel free to drive north! The country has spoken. With that said, if the republicans can't get things done in the next 2/4 years. They are going to get slammed. Does that make you feel better? "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #290 November 3, 2004 QuotePlease, Feel free to drive north! The country has spoken. With that said, if the republicans can't get things done in the next 2/4 years. They are going to get slammed. Does that make you feel better? Why would I want to drive into Wisconsin? Damn cheeseheads are more annoying than conservatives! Just slightly over half of the country has spoken. It was neck and neck and Kerry was the better man and bowed out. Bush then comes out with his smug face and "broad victory" speech._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #291 November 3, 2004 If the republicans just won the White House I'd have to agree with you, BUT the dems lost seats in both the house and senate. That is a mandate. Just admit it dude, you lost, deal with it. As far as Kerry goes, kudos to him for doing the right thing. I'm sure his people crunched the numbers and there was no way he was going to win. His concession speech was classy and gracious No matter what side you are on, let's move on and get the country moving forward TOGETHER!! "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #292 November 3, 2004 I think history will show November 2nd, 2004 as the start of the slide of the American Empire.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #293 November 3, 2004 QuoteIf the republicans just won the White House I'd have to agree with you, Um, they did win the White House, so thank you for being in agreement with me. Popular vote shows half the country didn't wan't Bush in there. Deal with that. BTW - I didn't lose anything, Kerry did. The dems are not my party either, and I did vote for soem republicans. Hard to move forward when we are already in reverse and the clutch is broken._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #294 November 3, 2004 QuotePopular vote shows half the country didn't wan't Bush in there Um, that would be only 48% that didn't want him... and W will have to deal with it, but he will have a Senate that is 55% Republican, and a House that is 53 or 54% Republican... JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #295 November 3, 2004 QuoteQuotePopular vote shows half the country didn't wan't Bush in there Um, that would be only 48% that didn't want him... and W will have to deal with it, but he will have a Senate that is 55% Republican, and a House that is 53 or 54% Republican... J Still shy of the 61 votes they need. At least there is that. Is that just the 48% that voted for Kerry or are you not counting those that voted outside the two party system? Plain and simple fact. The country is divided, maybe not exactly half by a percentage point or so...but divided nontheless. Do you think Bush will do anything to unite the country?? Maybe he can take away another liberty or two - that might work_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #296 November 3, 2004 QuotePopular vote shows half the country didn't wan't Bush in there. Deal with that. He's the first president to win the majority popular vote since 88. More people voted for Bush this election than any other president in our history. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #297 November 3, 2004 QuoteIs that just the 48% that voted for Kerry or are you not counting those that voted outside the two party system? Yes, I rounded down Kerry's 48.3% and did not add in the third party vote of .3%... my bad... QuoteDo you think Bush will do anything to unite the country?? I think he will try... it will take efforts on both sides though... As for the liberties thing... I think there is hesitation on both sides to go any further on that front... The PA will not go away, but I think parts of it will. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #298 November 3, 2004 Well, when you have the 2nd biggest election in our history, and the continued growth of our country its only logical that the winner would have more votes than any other president in history. So far - final vote total in 11 days For Bush: 59,025,418 (51.39%) Against Bush: 55,837,962 (48.61%) Total Votes: 114,863,380 Therefore 3,187,456 on the popular vote seperated Kerry from Bush._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #299 November 3, 2004 QuoteAs for the liberties thing... I think there is hesitation on both sides to go any further on that front... The PA will not go away, but I think parts of it will. J He is a lame duck. What fear does he have? He will push the PA Pt2 thru, and he has a majority to help it get approved._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #300 November 4, 2004 Quote More people voted for Bush this election than any other president in our history. Uh yes . . . but that's a little like saying that a loaf of bread cost more now than at any time in history. With the population increasing and record voter turn out, yes, that -may- be true, but it does NOT mean that his was the largest percentage win by any means. GWB made a statement today; Quote "America has spoken, and I'm humbled by the trust and the confidence of my fellow citizens," Bush said. If he thinks the entire country is for him at this point, he's delusional. America has spoken and said that about half of us didn't want him in the office.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
