Michele 1 #1 October 31, 2004 I was curious as to why people thought there hadn't been any additional terrorist attacks by AQ since 9/11? We all thought there would be more right after 9/11, suicide bombers at the local mall, bio/chem attacks, planes again, and so forth...but there haven't been. Sure, there's been terrorist attacks around the globe, some targeting Americans, but I was wondering why not any here... I mean, really. Why not? I have my opinion, but I'd rather hear others before I state my thoughts. (And Billv, I am deliberately not including the anthrax situation, since it seems to not be an AQ plan/participant...) Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #2 October 31, 2004 Quotebut I'd rather hear others before I state my thoughts Are you a "liberal"? __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #3 October 31, 2004 It's difficult to attack the US on the same level as 9/11. A lot of time, coordination, money, deception and not to mention luck goes into it. Not easy by a long shot. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 October 31, 2004 They are terrorists. The same logic that might apply to us, probably doesn't apply to them. The same time tables that would make sense to us are different to them. One of the "better" and least expensive tool they have at their disposal is simply the waiting game. How many billions of dollars have we spent on DHS compared to the amount they've spent preparing for the next attack? Pretty good return on investment on their part so far. Also . . . and this is really fucked up but it has to be said . . . the election isn't over yet. It's entirely possible they're waiting to see what the outcome of the election is and who is actually sitting in The White House next January.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #5 November 1, 2004 Quote Also . . . and this is really fucked up but it has to be said . . . the election isn't over yet. It's entirely possible they're waiting to see what the outcome of the election is and who is actually sitting in The White House next January. They don't care who is in the White House. Their war against the 1st World is necessary to keep the masses distracted from their crappy life, while the leaders live as kings. Easy to brainwash suicide bombers in the Middle East, but any that get onto our shores know it's a crock, and that they would be better staying here and living a normal life. The leadership, otoh, is spending most of their time avoiding capture. And making videos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #6 November 1, 2004 It was mentionted that they might be waiting til after the election. This is a very good point, it could be said(and remember that i am a registered republican as i say this) that the terrorists don't want Bush to win. Bush is far more agressive than Kerry when it comes to pursuing our enemies. And if anyone remembers the approval rating for the president skyrocketed after 9/11. So another attack could very well lock in the election for Bush and ensure the extinction of terrorism.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #7 November 1, 2004 Woops, all this time I had it backwards, I thought the terrorists waited until Bush was president to attack. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #8 November 1, 2004 QuoteI thought the terrorist waited until Bush was president to attack. Really? Where'd you come up with that? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #9 November 1, 2004 Don't forget that the shoe bomber was nabbed, good thing he was stupid enough to use matches, a butane lighter would probably been quick enough to make it happen. I also remember a few months after 9/11, that a planned attack on a bunch of European sites was thwarted. I remember the NATO headquarters, some EU buildings and such as the locations that were to be attacked. Remember the guy stopped at the border in Seattle, wasn't it coming off a ferry? He had the explosives, planning to use it at the L.A. airport. I heard an interview of a guy that wrote a book about other plans that have been stopped, broken up due to good intelligence. The author was surprised, as am I, that the administration has not wanted to take credit for these incidents. Bush could make big political points if he did. Providing more funding to "first responders" (as Kerry whines about Bush not doing) will do nothing to continue the pre-emptive actions that are needed. We ought not treat this as a criminal matter, responding after the fact, as the FBI was previously required by law to respond.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #10 November 1, 2004 QuoteWoops, all this time I had it backwards, I thought the terrorists waited until Bush was president to attack. blues jerry Where on earth did you get that idea? See if any of these ring a bell: * 1993: The first World Trade Center bombing * 1995: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia - A car bomb explodes outside of a US Military HQ, killing 5. * 1996: Dhahran, Saudi Arabia - A truck bomb explodes outside of the Khobar Towers complex, killing 19 Americans and injuring hundreds of others. * 1998: Almost simultanious explosion outside of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Death toll: 254. * 2000: The USS Cole. Seventeen killed. Every single attack listed before GWB was even elected to the office of President, much less sworn in. Hell, looking at the numbers it looks like every single one of those attacks happened on Clinton's watch. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #11 November 1, 2004 QuoteEvery single one of the attacks listed above happened BEFORE GWB was even elected to the office of President, much less sworn in. I think he's listening to OBL, but I'm not sure...which is why I asked the question where he got that idea. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #12 November 1, 2004 QuoteIt was mentionted that they might be waiting til after the election. This is a very good point, it could be said(and remember that i am a registered republican as i say this) that the terrorists don't want Bush to win. Bush is far more agressive than Kerry when it comes to pursuing our enemies. And if anyone remembers the approval rating for the president skyrocketed after 9/11. So another attack could very well lock in the election for Bush and ensure the extinction of terrorism. We could throw our hands up and say "we surrender" an it wouldn't change their plans in the slightest. Bush winning again or Kerry taking over won't alter the timetable of the "extinction of terrorism." One, because it won't happen, and two because Kerry is not going to be any softer. He might have not used the opportunity to whip Iraq, but then again...it's not like Clinton was reluctant to bomb em either. If they're really sitting out for reasons of timing, 3 years is an awful long planned sit. Simpler explanations exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #13 November 1, 2004 QuoteQuoteWoops, all this time I had it backwards, I thought the terrorists waited until Bush was president to attack. blues jerry Every single attack listed before GWB was even elected to the office of President, much less sworn in. Hell, looking at the numbers it looks like every single one of those attacks happened on Clinton's watch. - Jim Come on, Jim, you gave Jerry credit for being willing to look at FACTS, when he clearly has an axe to grind against Bush? What's wrong with you? Liberals won't admit to FACTS that contradict the lies they try to promulgate. All they do is pretend they don't exist and hope they'll fade away. Do you think Jerry is going to come back and say, "Oh yeah, you're right, my point was erroneous, I take it back"?! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #14 November 1, 2004 > I was curious as to why people thought there hadn't been any >additional terrorist attacks by AQ since 9/11? There have been plenty, but I assume you mean "against the US." That answer is easy; they've only attacked the US twice in a significant manner, and the attacks were 8 years apart. If they stick to the same schedule we'll see the next attack in 2009. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #15 November 1, 2004 QuoteI was curious as to why people thought there hadn't been any additional terrorist attacks by AQ since 9/11? 9/11 was a one-off attack because few people are willing to die when you're not occupying their homeland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #16 November 1, 2004 Quote> I was curious as to why people thought there hadn't been any >additional terrorist attacks by AQ since 9/11? There have been plenty, but I assume you mean "against the US." That answer is easy; they've only attacked the US twice in a significant manner, and the attacks were 8 years apart. If they stick to the same schedule we'll see the next attack in 2009. Exactly what I was thinking. I feel that those that were on the USS Cole feel different about your interpretations about terrorist attacks. Same thing for the people in Bali and Spain. The terrorists are doing something GW isn't - they are playing to the world and getting them on board. They pay attention to international politics and religion and push those hot buttons to sway them enough so they break. It doesn't help that relationships are already stressed due to the cowboy attitude this administration has. You cannot go it alone anymore in this world, and it seems that a man living in a cave has a better understanding of that then the president of our country. Terrorism is non stop and it is rampant across the globe - and 9/11 was just the wake up call for most of this country. Anyone that has been outside of the US knows how much of a reality terrorism is; our isolationism and pride were our own downfall (apparently we learned nothing from the days previous to Pearl Harbor). We have only further headed down that path since 9/11._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites