rhino 0 #1 October 29, 2004 The President is flying over the country gallivanting in Air Force One, with the largest security force known to man setting up daily security. Amazing how much Bush running for President is costing us. Who do you think is paying for the secret service? Who is paying for the Gas on Air Force One? Our tax dollars.... Bummer huh... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #2 October 29, 2004 Does that cost come from the general election fund? I'll bet that at least some of it does. With regards to the Secret Service, remember, Kerry is getting the SAME protection. Are you upset about that? Finally, "our tax dollars", of course it. "Our tax dollars" fund the government at all levels. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #3 October 29, 2004 Quote...gallivanting in Air Force One... How old are you, Rhino? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #4 October 30, 2004 QuoteThe President is flying over the country gallivanting in Air Force One, with the largest security force known to man setting up daily security. Amazing how much Bush running for President is costing us. Who do you think is paying for the secret service? Who is paying for the Gas on Air Force One? That's called the incumbency advantage. Every legislator gets free postage to mail his constituites too. Can't send direct ads, but a newsletter on his or her accomplishments is essentially the same thing. Do you suggest that the Secret Service not protect the POTUS while he campaigns for reelection? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #5 October 30, 2004 Isn't he protected by the Secret Service till he dies regardless?I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #6 October 30, 2004 Yep. He's protected till he dies, and he'll get his own jet to fly around on for the rest of his life too. I flew out of Atlanta last week and taxied by Carter's plane. It sits ready, at his beckon call. Who pays for that? mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #7 October 30, 2004 QuoteDo you suggest that the Secret Service not protect the POTUS while he campaigns for reelection? I think Rhino wants him to take Greyhound and have protection provided by Brinks. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #8 October 30, 2004 QuoteAmazing how much Bush running for President is costing us. Who do you think is paying for the secret service? Who is paying for the Gas on Air Force One? Our tax dollars.... Bummer huh... Rhino Oh, and I'll bet you were right at the fore complaining about this very same expense when it was Bill Clinton using your tax dollars to get re-elected. I'll bet that making that bet would lose me money, I mean. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #9 October 30, 2004 QuoteYep. He's protected till he dies Nope. IIRC, Clinton was the last ex-Pres to recieve security for life. From now on, ex-Pres's will recieve security for 12 years after they leave office. The logic is that this will yeild a significant cost savings and prevent minimal security risks as most of the sensitive information the ex-pres knows will no longer be sensitive after 12 years. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #10 October 30, 2004 Are you implying that Clinton, Carter, Johnson and Kennedy never used Air Force One on campaign trips? Wow! And all this time I throught we were just being screwed by all of them! Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #11 October 30, 2004 QuoteOh, and I'll bet you were right at the fore complaining about this very same expense when it was Bill Clinton using your tax dollars to get re-elected. No, what's happened is Rhino, for the first time (according to his comments...) will be voting. He's found a candidate to be passionate about, and is doing so. He's catching up on all the hoopla from the last few years, I think , and is educating himself about things. He's not yet at a point where he's considering all sides, all views, and filtering the chaff from the wheat, but then again, most folks aren't at that point, either. Even *I* don't see all points all the time, even when I try my best to walk the middle of the road. Do I agree with his conclusions? Nope...but that's what's wonderful about this country. We can all hold different opinions, and have different conclusions, and vote our minds. And that's something that Afghanistan just did for the first time in 500 or so years, and something that Iraq will be doing in January. It's all good... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #12 October 31, 2004 Quotewill be voting. He's found a candidate to be passionate about Yep... 1st time voting... Am I passionate about John Kerry??? NOOOOOOO.... He's better than Bush though... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #13 October 31, 2004 QuoteHe's better than Bush though... Guess you've still got a lot more to learn. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #14 October 31, 2004 We can all hold different opinions, and have different conclusions, and vote our minds.==================================And then the govt. and the electoral college decides what's best for youI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #15 October 31, 2004 QuoteGuess you've still got a lot more to learn. I wish you understood what I have found out through research and data.. You know research and data.. That stuff Bush doesn't give a damned about... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #16 October 31, 2004 QuoteI wish you understood what I have found out through research and data.. You know research and data.. Such as the results of your research concerning whether there was a grand conspiracy to cover up what really happened at the pentagon?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #17 October 31, 2004 QuoteI wish you understood what I have found out through research and data.. You know research and data.. That stuff Bush doesn't give a damned about... I understood that you've researched and discovered data. Whether or not Bush gives a damn about things like that will remain in disagreement. I am curious as to where you did your research, and what data you discovered, to formulate your positions? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 October 31, 2004 Quote I understood that you've researched and discovered data. Whether or not Bush gives a damn about things like that will remain in disagreement. Seeing as how Rhino's epiphany came after reading the 9/11 Commission Report . . . you might be right. BTW, have you had a chance to read it in its entirety yet? You can download it from the URL I referenced for FREE. Also, if you're stuck in traffic and want it in audio form for your iPod . . . it's also available at the iTunes store for 5 bucks. Also . . . in case you missed any of them . . . ALL the debates and convention speeches from both partys are available for FREE at the iTunes store.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #19 October 31, 2004 QuoteBTW, have you had a chance to read it in its entirety yet? You can download it from the URL I referenced for FREE. I've got my copy right here. Made it most of the way. But when I asked Rhino about some of his comments that he based in the 9/11 Commission report, he didn't identify them, and so I don't know what he's really getting at. QuoteAlso, if you're stuck in traffic and want it in audio form for your iPod . . . it's also available at the iTunes store for 5 bucks. I don't have an iPod. And don't particularly want one, either. QuoteAlso . . . in case you missed any of them . . . ALL the debates and convention speeches from both partys are available for FREE at the iTunes store. Saw all the debates, and the conventions, first hand. Zell Miller sure went to town. I am still left with the question of Rhino to articulate the issues with the 9/11 Commission report, as well as what data and research he did. I suspect we will not change each other's minds, but it's still very interesting to read the information from which someone has drawn a conclusion that is different than mine. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #20 October 31, 2004 Quotebut it's still very interesting to read the information from which someone has drawn a conclusion that is different than mine. Amen. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
