rhino 0 #1 October 28, 2004 What a fucking cop-out by the administration... I write a very detailed letter to the President with specific concerns and this is what I got... Bush is in LA LA LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 October 28, 2004 You got a form letter response. And they quickly categorized your letter and added you to the tally count for the similar box on their list. Isn't democracy great!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #3 October 29, 2004 What Kelpdiver said. Sheesh, Rhino. What did you expect? A response penned by GWB himself? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #4 October 29, 2004 You should see the responses I get for writing letters concenring personal/civil/gun rights, or the waste/growth/encroachment of government. It's enough to drive one bonkers and back again.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #5 October 29, 2004 Well, at least you made the effort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #6 October 29, 2004 Yes I did make an effort... The next letter goes out tomorrow... I'll send a copy of my letter and the White Houses response to John Kerry... He should get a kick out of it... Today is MUCH TOO DANGEROUS of a day and age to have open immigration. In the age of terrorism it can't be allowed. If Bush can't see that he is a fucking idiot... Reinforces my vote for Kerry... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gkc1436 3 #7 October 29, 2004 QuoteYes I did make an effort... The next letter goes out tomorrow... .. Today is MUCH TOO DANGEROUS of a day and age to have open immigration. In the age of terrorism it can't be allowed. If Bush can't see that he is a fucking idiot Rhino True...True Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #8 October 29, 2004 Here. Try to call or e-mail. Maybe you'll get lucky and he'll answer the ph. Personally, I've sent a few nasty e-mails. Surprised I haven't had a visit from the black suits. Oh, wait. There is a knock at the door. The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 Phone Numbers Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 FAX: 202-456-2461 TTY/TDD Comments: 202-456-6213 Visitors Office: 202-456-2121 E-Mail President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.govI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #9 October 29, 2004 Rhino, this is part of Bush senior's "new world order" he simply passed on to his son at our expense. The Bush dynasty is interested in nothing but money. He has his Mexican connection through his brother. Next thing coming is marrying one his twins to the House of Saud or one of Osama's nephews. Turning the United States into a third world bog does not phase him. I think after the election more energy will be directed toward illegal immigration. I feel your pain. Never sugar coat it.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #10 October 29, 2004 QuoteI'll send a copy of my letter and the White Houses response to John Kerry... He should get a kick out of it... Do you actually expect that Kerry will personally read and respond your letter? What will your response be when you receive a similar reply from the Kerry camp? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #11 October 29, 2004 When I was seven or so, I wrote a letter to the President. I told him I thought we should go back to horse and buggy days (I had just discovered the books "Little House on The Prairie.") because of the smog. I did receive a response from him...on a White House notecard, signed by him. It read, as best as I can recall (Dad has the original somewhere...): "Dear Michele, Thank you for your note. You have good penmanship. I understand your concerns. However, going back to horses and buggies won't work very well in the cities today. Thank you for writing. Richard M. Nixon" I thought it was very cool.... At least Rhino wrote something. That's more than most will ever do. While it was a form response letter, sent out to millions with the same concerns, Kerry does the same. It's how it works. There's far too much communication coming in for them to respond to letters personally. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #12 October 29, 2004 How many of you guys criticising Rhino have actually written to your representatives. Believe it or not, letters actually do influence them. Anyone that would take the time to write them is someone who will almost certainly take the time to vote for or against them, and is likely to spend time or money contributing to organizations that support or oppose them. Granted, you shouldn't expect a hand written, custom response to every letter you send them, but be aware, that they know about every letter that they receive. Unfortunately, some politicians, such as Bush, don't give a shit what the people they represent say, but he's not the norm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #13 October 29, 2004 Quote QuoteI'll send a copy of my letter and the White Houses response to John Kerry... He should get a kick out of it... Do you actually expect that Kerry will personally read and respond your letter? What will your response be when you receive a similar reply from the Kerry camp?........ Always got the form letter from the White House, but I have gotten what looked liked personal letters from a couple of congressmen and a senator. Didn't always like what they said, but they did respond. Too bad Bush doesn't have a better opponent. Maybe he would be a litte more personal.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingferret 0 #14 October 29, 2004 At least you wrote bro. While it might be disappointing, your 'check' in a tally count is as good anything. A representative cannot really respond to everyone. But they can look at numbers that 'represent' how many people weighed in a subject. Personally, I have written and received personal responses from all my Congressmen and senator. The topics were Class B airspace post 9/11, and concealed handgun licensing in Texas. In addition, I received a great personal email from the president of the AOPA after 9/11. (It might be noted this was MUCH MUCH more than the big fat nothing I heard back from the USPA during the fight for airspace /rant) It is always cool to get a personal response, but at that level of government, it really is not feasible. And honestly, no matter what party was in power, I would be pissed if my president spent his time writing letters. So, my hat is off to you for writing, but I think the reponse was to be expected. Heck, try writing the CEO of the company that manufactured your car; you gave them tens of thousands of dollars, and I doubt you get a personal response either.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #15 October 29, 2004 QuoteAt least Rhino wrote something. That's more than most will ever do. While it was a form response letter, sent out to millions with the same concerns, Kerry does the same. It's how it works. There's far too much communication coming in for them to respond to letters personally. QuoteHow many of you guys criticising Rhino have actually written to your representatives. I was not criticising Rhino for writing letters to his representatives (yes, the President counts, I think) - but rather what -I- perceived to be his outrage at the form letter response. Now, after thinking about it, it's entirely possible that his response had more to do with the content of the letter than the form letter itself. Apologies if that is the case. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #16 October 29, 2004 QuoteYou got a form letter response. And they quickly categorized your letter and added you to the tally count for the similar box on their list. It's also worth noting that sending snail mail counts for a lot more to them an email (probably by a factor of 10,000), and that a lot of legislators wouldn't even send a tailored form letter, rather one thanking you for contacting them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bhammond 0 #17 October 29, 2004 In the interest in fair and balanced, would you mind posting the letter that you sent, so we could gauge the White House response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #18 October 29, 2004 Jim, I wasn't criticizing you, although my post may have read that way. I was exhausted then I wrote that post - still am, honestly - and I could've been clearer. My apologies. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #19 October 30, 2004 QuoteI'll send a copy of my letter and the White Houses response to John Kerry... He should get a kick out of it... I would've suggested you send your same "detailed letter" to Kerry and wait for his response if we weren't so close to the election. If by some...what's the antonum for miracle? Anyway, if by some chance Kerry wins, then by all means, go ahead, send him a letter. You'll get the same stupid form letter response and a check mark in some paper-pusher's columns. I'm not saying you shouldn't write. I think my congressmen are tired of my personal letterhead. However, you really shouldn't be surprised when you get a form letter, particularly on immigration. Democrats pander to the wrong kind of blacks and Republicans pander to the wrong kind of hispanics. That's the reality for now, at least. Maybe I'll write my senators and annoy them some more (NJ Democrats don't tend to agre with me on very much). witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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flyingferret 0 #14 October 29, 2004 At least you wrote bro. While it might be disappointing, your 'check' in a tally count is as good anything. A representative cannot really respond to everyone. But they can look at numbers that 'represent' how many people weighed in a subject. Personally, I have written and received personal responses from all my Congressmen and senator. The topics were Class B airspace post 9/11, and concealed handgun licensing in Texas. In addition, I received a great personal email from the president of the AOPA after 9/11. (It might be noted this was MUCH MUCH more than the big fat nothing I heard back from the USPA during the fight for airspace /rant) It is always cool to get a personal response, but at that level of government, it really is not feasible. And honestly, no matter what party was in power, I would be pissed if my president spent his time writing letters. So, my hat is off to you for writing, but I think the reponse was to be expected. Heck, try writing the CEO of the company that manufactured your car; you gave them tens of thousands of dollars, and I doubt you get a personal response either.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #15 October 29, 2004 QuoteAt least Rhino wrote something. That's more than most will ever do. While it was a form response letter, sent out to millions with the same concerns, Kerry does the same. It's how it works. There's far too much communication coming in for them to respond to letters personally. QuoteHow many of you guys criticising Rhino have actually written to your representatives. I was not criticising Rhino for writing letters to his representatives (yes, the President counts, I think) - but rather what -I- perceived to be his outrage at the form letter response. Now, after thinking about it, it's entirely possible that his response had more to do with the content of the letter than the form letter itself. Apologies if that is the case. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 October 29, 2004 QuoteYou got a form letter response. And they quickly categorized your letter and added you to the tally count for the similar box on their list. It's also worth noting that sending snail mail counts for a lot more to them an email (probably by a factor of 10,000), and that a lot of legislators wouldn't even send a tailored form letter, rather one thanking you for contacting them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhammond 0 #17 October 29, 2004 In the interest in fair and balanced, would you mind posting the letter that you sent, so we could gauge the White House response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #18 October 29, 2004 Jim, I wasn't criticizing you, although my post may have read that way. I was exhausted then I wrote that post - still am, honestly - and I could've been clearer. My apologies. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #19 October 30, 2004 QuoteI'll send a copy of my letter and the White Houses response to John Kerry... He should get a kick out of it... I would've suggested you send your same "detailed letter" to Kerry and wait for his response if we weren't so close to the election. If by some...what's the antonum for miracle? Anyway, if by some chance Kerry wins, then by all means, go ahead, send him a letter. You'll get the same stupid form letter response and a check mark in some paper-pusher's columns. I'm not saying you shouldn't write. I think my congressmen are tired of my personal letterhead. However, you really shouldn't be surprised when you get a form letter, particularly on immigration. Democrats pander to the wrong kind of blacks and Republicans pander to the wrong kind of hispanics. That's the reality for now, at least. Maybe I'll write my senators and annoy them some more (NJ Democrats don't tend to agre with me on very much). witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
