Skyrad 0 #1 October 22, 2004 Until recently in Scotland a criminal could be 'birched' (flogged) personaly this is something I'd like to see returned to the UK and don't see why it wouldn't be a good idea in the US either. With prisons filling up wouldn't it make good sense for minor public order offences to be able to be flogged as a option to petty custodial sentances? What do you think?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #2 October 22, 2004 QuoteUntil recently in Scotland a criminal could be 'birched' (flogged) personaly this is something I'd like to see returned to the UK and don't see why it wouldn't be a good idea in the US either. With prisons filling up wouldn't it make good sense for minor public order offences to be able to be flogged as a option to petty custodial sentances? What do you think? How about cutting off their hands and other body parts, like in Saudi?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #3 October 22, 2004 You jest, surely? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 October 22, 2004 I considered that but then they'd just end up being a burden on our already malused social welfare system. No, I'm for flogging them.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #5 October 22, 2004 Would be pretty expensive as we'd have to patch em up afterwards on the NHS. What about forced labour? We could have them patching roads, tilling fields by hand, mowing verges with hand powered mowers. Hell we could make em help run a decent public transport system. Any more nonsense and it's off to a prison ship with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #6 October 22, 2004 No seriously Gordy, flogg the little scrots. Somthing has to be done about all the binge drinking violent responsibilty shirking arseholes. Flogg them!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 October 22, 2004 I like that idea, but it has to be enforced with strict discipline.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #8 October 22, 2004 Well at least your not going to shoot them.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #9 October 22, 2004 QuoteI like that idea, but it has to be enforced with strict discipline. LOL - you mean stand over them with a cat-o-nine tails? You just want your pound o'flesh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #10 October 22, 2004 Quote Any more nonsense and it's off to a prison ship with them. Australia or America bound?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #11 October 22, 2004 Actually that bit I was serious about. Its a genuine solution to our problem. We don't have the space to build the prisons we need. Purpose built prison ships (static) have been used in the recent past and many are calling for their re-introduction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 616 #12 October 22, 2004 I don't see a problem with it for some of the "minor" crimes. I am not sure if they still do it - but when I was younger in Zimbabwe the police were allowed to "cane" offenders for certain minor crimes. The punishment was issued by a judge (number of strikes etc) and from memory it was a fibreglass rod and they laid a salt laden blanket across your bare arse... (my older brother was the recipient due to "teenage" pranks) - no prison problem was solved and no criminal record either. He soon got over the pain and didn't need hospital treatment to patch him up.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #13 October 22, 2004 QuoteWell at least your not going to shoot them.... No doubt. Public hangings are much more entertaining. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #14 October 22, 2004 Yeah - it's the kicking and struggling that brings the crowds in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #15 October 22, 2004 True...we could tape it and sell the dvd's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #16 October 22, 2004 QuoteYeah - it's the kicking and struggling that brings the crowds in. I thought the "quartering" was the real crowd pleaser.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #17 October 22, 2004 But that's just so messy - you'd never get the pink vote for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #18 October 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteUntil recently in Scotland a criminal could be 'birched' (flogged) personaly this is something I'd like to see returned to the UK and don't see why it wouldn't be a good idea in the US either. How about cutting off their hands and other body parts, like in Saudi? Absolutely yes! - the death penalty - which is sort-of the maximal possible intrusion into the physical integrity of a criminal as a punishment - has wide acceptance. It would be sheer hypocracy not to accept the lesser such punishments as well. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #19 October 22, 2004 Very well stated! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #20 October 22, 2004 Viva la Guillotine!Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #21 October 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteYeah - it's the kicking and struggling that brings the crowds in. I thought the "quartering" was the real crowd pleaser. Hmmmm....people have talked about burning at the stake as misogynist, but from what I just read about quartering it seems that that punishment was considered too severe for women, so women were burned at the stake instead. I'm not sure that we fared much better though.... linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #22 October 22, 2004 I remember coming home from work to find my brand new (and first ever NEW) car covered with eggs and paint. I think the punks that did that should have been publicly flogged. And I remember the American kid in Thailand who got caught vandalizing public property, (I think that's what he did) and he got caned. Oh the public outcry! But the freakin' brat got what he deserved. I think judges ought to be allowed some creative leeway when it comes to sentencing for the less violent offenses, where putting someone in prison may not be appropriate, and a fine or probation will have little impact. I believe in letting the punishment fit the crime. Like making someone convicted of drunk driving (first offense) work in a burn unit, or clean out bed pans at a rehab center. Or making a slum lord actually live in one of his tenements. Or publicly spanking a punk who vandalized a car! But, it will never happen! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #23 October 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteYeah - it's the kicking and struggling that brings the crowds in. I thought the "quartering" was the real crowd pleaser. Hmmmm....people have talked about burning at the stake as misogynist, but from what I just read about quartering it seems that that punishment was considered too severe for women, so women were burned at the stake instead. I'm not sure that we fared much better though.... linz Part of it involved cutting off parts that women don't have, so maybe they weren't just being nice to women.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #24 October 22, 2004 QuoteWhat about forced labour? We could have them patching roads, tilling fields by hand, mowing verges with hand powered mowers. Hell we could make em help run a decent public transport system. What do you do with the people whose jobs were taken by convicts? It's a good idea until you start to really think about the consequences. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #25 October 22, 2004 That's why we have em do it by hand. There are plenty of verges here that are never mown - lets set em to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
