TheAnvil 0 #1 October 21, 2004 Carter is trying to out-do his 'the country is in a malaise and I don't know what to do about it' comment of years past. What a dumbass. Clicky Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #2 October 21, 2004 QuoteCarter is trying to out-do his 'the country is in a malaise and I don't know what to do about it' comment of years past. What a dumbass. Clicky Or it could just be that he's more perceptive than you are.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 October 21, 2004 Uh, (scratching of head), uh, yeah, boy that sure was incendiary. Mathews tried to force an analogy out of him and Carter made one. Yeah, I guess actually trying to answer questions in a thoughtful manner sure is going to get the country into a lot of trouble.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #4 October 21, 2004 I always loved Carter. I am probably the only person in the world to believe that he would be one of the top ten presidents of all-time. I loved that guy. Still do. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #5 October 22, 2004 QuoteI am probably the only person in the world to believe that he would be one of the top ten presidents of all-time. I loved that guy. Still do. Why? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #6 October 22, 2004 QuoteUh, (scratching of head), uh, yeah, boy that sure was incendiary. Mathews tried to force an analogy out of him and Carter made one. Yeah, I guess actually trying to answer questions in a thoughtful manner sure is going to get the country into a lot of trouble. I think that trying to get anything useful out of Carter is a hopeless, pointless waste of time. mh . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #7 October 22, 2004 Quote QuoteI am probably the only person in the world to believe that he would be one of the top ten presidents of all-time. I loved that guy. Still do. Why? - Jim He is a better carpenter than he ever was as a president. His Habitat for Humanity is doing great things for the poor. The organization has gone international helping the poor construct houses.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 October 22, 2004 QuoteI always loved Carter. I am probably the only person in the world to believe that he would be one of the top ten presidents of all-time. I loved that guy. Still do. He got dealt a bad hand. No one would have look good in the late 70s, but I think many could have looked better. Might have been better as a man behind the scenes then the man in front of the camera. His comments here aren't that far fetched, though there is no analog in the Revolutionary War for Saddam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #9 October 22, 2004 QuoteHe is a better carpenter than he ever was as a president. His Habitat for Humanity is doing great things for the poor. The organization has gone international helping the poor construct houses. I'm too lazy to look for them, but I would love to see stats about what happens after those HfH people build a house for some poor folks and then leave town. Do the houses remain under the ownership of the people for whom they were built for very long? Do the taxes and utilities get paid? Do the properties get adequately maintained? If these people are so poor, why not put the effort into getting them employment rather than a house that they can't afford to keep? I've never seen them talk about these families ten years later... -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #10 October 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteHe is a better carpenter than he ever was as a president. His Habitat for Humanity is doing great things for the poor. The organization has gone international helping the poor construct houses. I'm too lazy to look for them, but I would love to see stats about what happens after those HfH people build a house for some poor folks and then leave town. Do the houses remain under the ownership of the people for whom they were built for very long? Do the taxes and utilities get paid? Do the properties get adequately maintained? If these people are so poor, why not put the effort into getting them employment rather than a house that they can't afford to keep? I've never seen them talk about these families ten years later... -Jeffrey According to habitat.org, "Habitat houses are purchased by the homeowner families. Homeowner families are chosen according to their need; their ability to repay the non-profit, no interest mortgage; and their willingness to work in partnership with Habitat." Habitat is currently helping low income hurricane victims here. If they buy it; they take care of it? Maybe that works. I don't know. It's not just a feel good project for yuppies and corporations. I think they are doing a great service. I don't want to sound too selfish, but maybe the families south of the border won't come here to raise their standard of living if we help them at home.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #11 October 22, 2004 Typically, programs that offer low cost or forgivable first or second mortgages have provisions that call for owner occupancy for at least 3 years, and full or partial repayment of the debt if the owner occupancy provision (or any other provision) is violated or if the property is sold for profit within a certain time frame, some even call for reversion of title back to the agency. There are usually other provisions as well, just as there are on any mortgage you sign. The house and/ or funds are not given with no strings attached. The provisions and restrictions are placed of public record and are essentially a lien on title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #12 October 22, 2004 QuoteTypically, programs that offer low cost or forgivable first or second mortgages have provisions that call for owner occupancy for at least 3 years, and full or partial repayment of the debt if the owner occupancy provision (or any other provision) is violated or if the property is sold for profit within a certain time frame, some even call for reversion of title back to the agency. There are usually other provisions as well, just as there are on any mortgage you sign. The house and/ or funds are not given with no strings attached. The provisions and restrictions are placed of public record and are essentially a lien on title. That makes sense. I remember working in the Arabian Gulf years ago when somebody said the sheik stopped giving new homes to the locals because they would rent them.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #13 October 22, 2004 I don't know a whole lot about Habitat for Humanity specifically, but the intent seems good. I used to do residential closings for a title insurance company and we did a lot of work with HUD, so I have a pretty good idea how they work in that respect. And I've worked with many other "first time homebuyer" programs out there that provide down payment assistance if you meet their criteria. There's always a "catch", and the owner occupancy requirement is a biggie. Of course, there will always be people who will try and take advantage and work around the system. (and there will always be lawyers who will then come up with more forms and make it harder and harder to qualify for the programs......) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #14 October 22, 2004 Quote...but the intent seems good. " That sums up the Carter presidency. It also points to some plausible amounts of good that he does as a civilian. Non-govt work is precisely what Carter is best at, and where he should have stayed. He should walk around, smile at everyone, buy them an ice cream. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites