gemini 0 #1 October 21, 2004 The DNC filed suit against a theater that was going to show Stolen Valor. Apparently the show was sold out and refunds are now being made. So much for freedom of speech, getting it off the airways, and equal time! Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #2 October 21, 2004 You sure that was the DNC? I heard about this but I thought it was just some local yahoos. Either way it's messed up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #3 October 21, 2004 What were the grounds for the lawsuit? Link? Last I checked, the FEC has no say over what is shown to a paying public in a theatre._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 October 21, 2004 Got URL? Come on guys, back 'em up with something.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #5 October 21, 2004 QuoteGot URL? Come on guys, back 'em up with something. Twelve days before the election and you want evidence? Are you out of your mind? PS When's my video coming - I REALLY need it before November 4th for a talk I'm giving to the American Association of Physics Teachers.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #6 October 21, 2004 Heated exchanges after film canceled By JODI ARTHUR Bucks County Courier Times Police had to separate two war veterans after one grabbed the other by the neck Tuesday as tempers flared outside Abington's Baederwood Theater following the cancellation of a premiere showing of a film critical of Sen. John Kerry's anti-war testimony. Frustrated by the theater's decision, several prospective viewers of "Stolen Honor, Wounds that Never Heal" got into shouting matches with opponents of the documentary. Among them was Joanne Dalbey of Warrington. "My rights as an American were denied," she said. "Soldiers are dying for my right to choose what movie I want to see." Dalbey was one of about 50 people who showed up at the theater on The Fairway. Some were there to get copies of the movie on DVD or videotape from filmmaker Carlton Sherwood, who was autographing them, and some were there to protest it. Others arrived unaware that the showing had been canceled. Theater manager Robert Smith and several others sat just outside the theater doors giving refunds to ticket holders. He said he had "no comment" about the theater's decision not to show the film as promised. Sherwood said 600 tickets had been sold. During one heated exchange, Korean War veteran Dan Sweeney of Philadelphia grabbed Bill Perry, a member of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, by the neck. Asked why, he said, "because I felt like it, that's why." "Kerry can't handle the words that he said himself. Otherwise this film would be shown tonight," Sweeney said. "They don't want anybody to see what he said." Perry, who said he was one of 120 soldiers who testified during the 1971 "Winter Soldier Investigation" of atrocities they witnessed in Vietnam, called the film no good. At one point, he and Dalbey stood nose-to-nose arguing its merits. "The movie's a sack of lies," Perry said. "I was in Vietnam. I witnessed these things." "How can you comment about what you haven't seen," Dalbey shouted, referring to the 42-minute film. "Get him here to debate this. Get Kerry here." Others, although opposed to the film, did not object to the right of others to see it. Holding a sign that read, "Kerry Supporters Support the Troops," Evan Machlan of Pennington, N.J., a self-described devoted Kerry supporter, said he believed the theater should have shown the film. That's despite the fact, he said, that "I think it's full of lies." Sherwood said the film is about the direct and indirect consequences of Kerry's anti-war testimony. It is told, he said, by the men who were most affected by it - prisoners of war being held in North Vietnam. "He placed their lives in jeopardy," Sherwood said. "He increased their peril." Perry said Kerry was quoting those who testified in the Winter Soldier Investigation. "When he testified to Congress, he was quoting us directly," Perry said. Sherwood said his production company started getting indications from the theater owners last week that they were having second thoughts about showing the film, which was being hosted by conservative talk radio station 1210 AM. He said the cinema "claimed they were getting threatening calls and e-mail and just threats generally." A fax came from the theater's attorney Monday, saying they were canceling the showing "due to threats of civil disobedience," Sherwood said. Perry said that's untrue. He said the theater was afraid of being included in a class action libel suit. "There were never any threats of civil disobedience." On Monday, Kenneth J. Campbell, a University of Delaware professor who is one of the veterans included in the film, sued the producer for libel, saying the film falsely portrays him as a fraud and a liar. Jodi Arthur can be reached at 215-957-8148 or jarthur@phillyBurbs.com. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 October 22, 2004 So, WHERE in all of that does it say that the DNC told the theater to shut up as your thread title says? How did you make that leap?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #8 October 22, 2004 My question is - what class action suit could be filed for showing a movie?? BTW - if you look real close you can find the letters " D N and C" somewhere in that article, so it must have been Kerry's people that told them to shut up._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 October 22, 2004 Since there is a lawsuit mentioned in the last graf of the story, I think we are left to assume that is it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #10 October 22, 2004 Like I said, a bunch of local yahoos were protesting it. You think that's worthy of interest? Seriously, come to Philly on 11/2 and witness 19th century politics first hand. Fist fights in the streets, fire bombings, kidnappings. Election day around here is interesting to say the least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 October 22, 2004 At least you have your Ninja costume out and preped for the night Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #12 October 22, 2004 QuoteSince there is a lawsuit mentioned in the last graf of the story, I think we are left to assume that is it. But on what grounds?_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 October 22, 2004 Again, based on the last graf, I'd have to assume the one guy made a class action suit against the movie on behalf of others he feels may also be misrepresented.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #14 October 22, 2004 No, it's not a class action. It's a personal suit that he filed for using footage of him without his permission. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites