A letter from Iraq ... Please read

[billvon 3,171]

>Are the lives of 1000 Americans worth saving the lives of ten-of-
>thousands of Iraq's citezens?

Are the lives of the 7000 innocent Iraqis we killed less important somehow? Were the ones we killed "killed for their own good" or something?

[kinney29 0]

????
When did that happen?

[AdD 1]

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We have defeated dictators before and brought democracy and prosperity to other countries in the aftermath of war.

The US has attacked a foreign state every 18 months since 1945. Can you give examples of which of them the US has brought democracy to?

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[billvon 3,171]

>When did that happen?

From March of 2003 to present.

[juanesky 0]

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"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[juanesky 0]

Bill, I have to say that you aer the only one here who at least is honest about the casualties in that war. Not implying that 100% of the Iraqi's casualties have been innocent civilians.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[bigway 4]

joke mate,
jsut really tired and sick while waiting for a very importnat phone call from my mum in hospital on the other side of the world, i have not slept for 2 days if you are refering to my posts.

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[rushmc 23]

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have your opinion that is fine, i will agree when i here the truth but this last post of mine that you do not agree with, well you are just being stupid because that whole post was the complete truth.
not my opinion but the truth...fact.
now play fair.

Name call?

I guess I will just be stupid then! Hope that makes you feel better

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[bigway 4]

got me there, i called you stupid, sorry, i need sleep, good night(5pm)
arguee with you all another day.

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[juanesky 0]

Please don't forget that as long as the insults are just bashing people who support or defend US positions, GWB, it's all cool.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[rushmc 23]

Fair enough

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,216]

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I don’t give two rat fucks about what you or anyone else around the world thinks about us. We will protect ourselves how we see fit. If that pisses anyone off, well then, so be it.

Make sure you understand a couple of things. First of all, some of us do care. And secondly, if we didn't, then we'd have a whole lot more enemies then we do now.

Don't elect me President!

Don't get me wrong. I do care about the lives of people around the world. I'm just saying that's not the primary reason for us doing what we did. We're doing what we're doing to ultimately protect our own people. Americans. If Iraqis benefit from what we've done, great. That also benefits us in the long term, however.

We know that Iraq had no weapons that could threaten us, had not made any threats against us, and had no role in 9/11.

Explain how the Iraq war, which has increased the number of terrorist attacks, increased the number of people who hate us, and cost over 1000 American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars, has furthered our national interests.

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I don’t give two rat fucks about what you or anyone else around the world thinks about us. We will protect ourselves how we see fit. If that pisses anyone off, well then, so be it. I say American lives are more important than Iraqis or anyone else’s for that matter…to us. That’s not to say that lives elsewhere aren’t important. Let’s not be naïve, though. Of course, we’re going to protect our own and consider ours more important over anyone else. If others benefit from that, so be it, but we’re doing this for our own national interests whether you like it or not. I think you’re life is important. But do you think I’m going to willingly sacrifice any one of my family for you? Not likely. Once their new free and democratic society takes hold, Iraq will now be less likely to support terrorism against us. That reason supercedes any reason of freedom for the Iraqi people.

That, exactly that kind of statement daily increases my deepest "Thank you, my chancellor" prayer: Our beautiful Armani-chancellor refused to join the US in their war heat! For that, we always will love him.

And just BTW: We use to simply pay for oil....

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[juanesky 0]

Don't forget that you also simply decided to use the oil for food program to benefit yourselves, and SH...

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Don't forget that you also simply decided to use the oil for food program to benefit yourselves, and SH...

Doh.....
She must be so proud....

[christelsabine 1]

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Don't forget that you also simply decided to use the oil for food program to benefit yourselves, and SH...

Juanito, amigo,

me and SH in one sentence..

You really pull out Palaeolithic Period weapons, Holy Moses!

But if you think, it helps.. Go on and enjoy.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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We know that Iraq had no weapons that could threaten us,

On the contrary, we know that he did have them, had used them in the past on his own people, said that he got rid of them, but offered no proof as was mandated by the UN. He led inspectors on a wild goose chase, kicked them out of the country, and defied the UN for 12 years. Even without the capability to launch them and hit us directly, he certainly had the capability, the motive, and the intent to share information and weapons with others who could.

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had not made any threats against us,

Like Saddam’s authorization of an assassination attempt on Bush Senior…
How about shooting missiles at our planes?

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and had no role in 9/11.

This is not in dispute.

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Explain how the Iraq war, which has increased the number of terrorist attacks, increased the number of people who hate us, and cost over 1000 American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars, has furthered our national interests.

We’re fighting them over there instead of over here. There hasn’t been one single attack on our soil since 9-11.

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Doh.....
She must be so proud...

Si.
She is.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[rhino 0]

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We’re fighting them over there instead of over here. There hasn’t been one single attack on our soil since 9-11.

tic toc tic toc... Al Queda has regrouped, recruited, gained strength, gotten smarter, better financed, become more secrative,,, all while we believe major progress is being made...

Instead of spending the 300 billion in Iraq we could have hired an assasin to kill him, and spent 299.5 billion on national defense and security. Border patrol, increasing the military, re-equiping the military, hiring more cops, more teachers, investing more in technology to help fight terrorist. We are 5 years behind the British right now in our abilities to do so..

If we were so well equiped as Bush says we are we wouldn't be holding soldiers in past their obligated dates of service, IRR wouldn't be activated and IN COMBAT, National guardsman would be doing that PROTECTING OUR NATION HERE.. Not having street to street combat in Iraq...

We are screwing up here big time..

Rhino

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We’re fighting them over there instead of over here. There hasn’t been one single attack on our soil since 9-11.

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tic toc tic toc... Al Queda has regrouped, recruited, gained strength, gotten smarter, better financed, become more secrative,,, all while we believe major progress is being made...

How do you know these things? Where are you getting your information? Last I heard, we’ve destroyed the majority of their top leadership. How do you know they’ve “regrouped, recruited, gained strength, gotten smarter, better financed, and become more secretive?” By the way, you didn't deny what I stated in my quote above? You second guess the actions but you don't deny the desired result/benefit.

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Instead of spending the 300 billion in Iraq we could have hired an assasin to kill him, and spent 299.5 billion on national defense and security. Border patrol, increasing the military, re-equiping the military, hiring more cops, more teachers, investing more in technology to help fight terrorist. We are 5 years behind the British right now in our abilities to do so..

You don’t think they put a ransom on his head? They had a ransom on my head as well as the other members of my team when I was in Afghanistan. That didn’t get me killed. I don’t know…maybe you should apply to be a security advisor to the President. We’re 5 years behind the British in what aspect?

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If we were so well equiped as Bush says we are we wouldn't be holding soldiers in past their obligated dates of service, IRR wouldn't be activated and IN COMBAT, National guardsman would be doing that PROTECTING OUR NATION HERE.. Not having street to street combat in Iraq...

Bush had to take what he had and go with it. We had to act. Hindsight second guessing is very easy to do. The system is adjusting. It’s a VERY big system. You can’t expect for it to happen overnight.

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That, exactly that kind of statement daily increases my deepest "Thank you, my chancellor" prayer: Our beautiful Armani-chancellor refused to join the US in their war heat! For that, we always will love him.

And just BTW: We use to simply pay for oil....

I can imagine at night "Thank you chancellor for getting us into the oil for food program that helps SH, made our industries stronger, and keeps us employed and please, please keep us blind to the facts in order to bad mouth the US for daring to stop this wonderful economic pact."

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[kallend 2,216]

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We know that Iraq had no weapons that could threaten us,

On the contrary, we know that he did have them, had used them in the past on his own people, said that he got rid of them, but offered no proof as was mandated by the UN. He led inspectors on a wild goose chase, kicked them out of the country, and defied the UN for 12 years. Even without the capability to launch them and hit us directly, he certainly had the capability, the motive, and the intent to share information and weapons with others who could.

And the US had slavery in the past.
Iraq was not a threat to us at the time we invaded, as Hans Blix and his inspectors were trying to tell Bush before Bush asked them to leave in March 2003. Read Blix's final report before Bush told him to leave.

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had not made any threats against us,

Like Saddam’s authorization of an assassination attempt on Bush Senior…
How about shooting missiles at our planes?

[christelsabine 1]

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I can imagine at night "Thank you chancellor for getting us into the oil for food program that helps SH, made our industries stronger, and keeps us employed and please, please keep us blind to the facts in order to bad mouth the US for daring to stop this wonderful economic pact.

Juanito,

Thx for telling me your secret night prayer.
Too much honor to me.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[pajarito 0]

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We’re fighting them over there instead of over here. There hasn’t been one single attack on our soil since 9-11.

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When did Iraq fight us over here? You are confused, that was Al Qaeda, whose chief recruiter is now George Bush.

I believe you are confused professor. Allow me to clarify. I never said that Iraq attacked us on 9-11. I said that we haven't been attacked on our soil since 9-11. I've said that Iraq supported terrorism. We are in a war against terrorism which isn't necessarily bound by the borders of one country.

[juanesky 0]

Well Christel, if you care to find out about my night secret prayer, you could have asked me. Otherwise as a rational-educated person would have put logic first and perceived the word "CHANCELLOR" at the begginning of the prayer, they would have assumed what that really was, and actual german "not so secret" prayer, for which you proudly stand.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon