storm1977 0 #1 October 18, 2004 I read this and was quite surprised. It actually seems like Putin understands the problem. However, Putin, IMO is screwing up Russia and pushing back to a Communist country, that said, he seems to understand the real situation with the terrorists. http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/10/18/putin.iraq/index.html ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #2 October 18, 2004 Of course he understands. They're cut from the same cloth. Heavy handed - and always on vacation when their country needs them. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #3 October 18, 2004 QuoteI read this and was quite surprised. It actually seems like Putin understands the problem. However, Putin, IMO is screwing up Russia and pushing back to a Communist country, that said, he seems to understand the real situation with the terrorists. http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/10/18/putin.iraq/index.html One fascist dictator wannabe supporting another? What a surprise... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #4 October 18, 2004 You two should thank your good fortune that your lives are so sheltered and spoiled that you have the luxury of getting away with being obtuse enough to compare W to Putin, and call him a fascist dictator wannabe. Sure, he's no ACLU poster-boy, but he hardly approaches that level. Give me a call when the black helicopters come for you for your acts of treason and sedition in your posts. Irony, anyone? As someone who's family escaped to America from Cuba I would find that level of intellectual laziness offensive if it wasn't so damn funny.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,174 #5 October 19, 2004 QuoteYou two should thank your good fortune that your lives are so sheltered and spoiled that you have the luxury of getting away with being obtuse enough to compare W to Putin, and call him a fascist dictator wannabe. Sure, he's no ACLU poster-boy, but he hardly approaches that level. Give me a call when the black helicopters come for you for your acts of treason and sedition in your posts. Irony, anyone? As someone who's family escaped to America from Cuba I would find that level of intellectual laziness offensive if it wasn't so damn funny. Ummm - in this country it's still quite legal to criticize the President, even though your patriotism is called into question by the White House when you do so. I guess I'll be in good company in the black helicopter; according to the latest Gallup poll, some 43% of the electorate think Bush is doing a poor job.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #6 October 19, 2004 Quote You two should thank your good fortune that your lives are so sheltered and spoiled that you have the luxury of getting away with being obtuse enough to compare W to Putin, and call him a fascist dictator wannabe. Sure, he's no ACLU poster-boy, but he hardly approaches that level. Give me a call when the black helicopters come for you for your acts of treason and sedition in your posts. Irony, anyone? As someone who's family escaped to America from Cuba I would find that level of intellectual laziness offensive if it wasn't so damn funny. I am happy to notice you did not try to enter the EU. Our black helicopters are out there for skydiving in Switzerland Wonderful DZs; wonderful people.. You're talking BS. Simply. I'm surprised to read such BS. Stop watching the old 007movies, guy! dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #7 October 19, 2004 No, he was not watching movies. You don't understand yet (as if this never happened before) the irony in his post...."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #8 October 19, 2004 Quotehe was not watching movies. That's what he told you? Funny, it still needs 2 of them, or more, perhaps? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #9 October 19, 2004 QuoteUmmm - in this country it's still quite legal to criticize the President. Good for you. That was my point. I'm no fan of W, but to compare him to people like Putin, and refer to him as any kind of dictator is to make a mockery of those who live in REAL tyrannies.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #10 October 19, 2004 Quote ..but to compare him to people like Putin, .. To say that, means to know something about him. Based on the experiences I made on that site, I doubt there are too many knowing anything about that man. I do not defend him. But nobody should underestimate him. Not even the US. Putin could be a heavy stone in someone's stomache. Nobody should forget that. Just my worthless opinion. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #11 October 19, 2004 And to say that criticizing the president is tantamount to treason and sedition is a mockery of those who truly understand what freedom means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #12 October 19, 2004 QuoteAnd to say that criticizing the president is tantamount to treason and sedition is a mockery of those who truly understand what freedom means. Unbelievable. That's what the irony I was referring to is. Again, that was my point. I mention black helicopters, a favorite of conspiracy theorists everywhere, and you think I'm being serious with that line. My mother left a place where those types of comments get you thrown in jail or worse. That doesn't happen here - because its not treason, and the President, as much of an asshole as he is, is not a dictator in any way, shape, or form. Obviously, criticizing the president is not treason. I wasn't talking about criticizing the president, I was talking about calling him a dictator. You'll note there was no real criticism in the posts I referenced, just lame attempts to compare him to someone who truly is a threat to freedom. Given the conditions that billions in this world live under, and given how good we've got it here, calling Bush any kind of dictator certainly isn't treason, but it is willfully ignorant of reality.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #13 October 19, 2004 Hermano, I understand where you are coming from. They'll never get it."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #14 October 19, 2004 QuoteHermano, I understand where you are coming from. They'll never get it. WOW, I though you were from Pawtucket all this time. Hey, were you at JUMPTOWN during the World Cup Speed Skydiving meet? (Aug 28th) I didn't get to meet you._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #15 October 19, 2004 No, I was mobilized until 2 weeks ago. But definitely I'm a club member there, not as often as I would like but am. Blue skies."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #16 October 19, 2004 Treason? Check my profile. I'm no american. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #17 October 19, 2004 Well, you got me there.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #18 October 19, 2004 QuoteWell, you got me there. Well - this week I'm following the Catch-and- release program, so you're free to go! Sorry if my post offended you. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites