billvon 3,111 #26 October 18, 2004 >"I think the United States should have offered the opportunity to >provide the nuclear fuel, test them, see whether or not they were > actually looking for it for peaceful purposes." If that came with the provisio "and an IAEA inspection team will be on site the whole time you have it" it would be worth the cost. >"The Iraqi Army is in such bad shape now," Kerry said, "even the > Italians could kick their butts." (circa 1997) >Really? That's a nice way to speak of our allies, the same ones he said >were coerced and bribed. The same ones who would fight side by side > with our troops. We've said far worse about Germany, France and Russia - also our allies, and also responsible for many of the Al Qaeda arrests that have occurred over the past few years. >Really? He lambasts the President for his sitting there for 5- 7 > minutes, assessing the situation but acknowledges that he couldn't > think for 40 minutes, let alone make decisions. If he was responsible for something he didn't do, you might have a point. I just sat there for ten minutes, watching the video feed - but then again, I wasn't in charge of the armed forces of the US, just a bunch of satellite phone engineers. My chance to do something came a few months later. >Even I knew enough to get on the phone and start calling people. ..) What did that accomplish? Other than loading down the phone system a little more. >"If Saddam Hussein is unwilling to bend to the international > community's already existing order, then he will have invited > enforcement, even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the > United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to > act." I agree with that statement. Hussein should have had force used - after the inspectors concluded that he had WMD's and was not disarming. Unfortunately we didn't want to wait, and thus did not learn until a few weeks ago what their result would have been. >"I think there has been an exaggeration," Mr. Kerry said when asked > whether President Bush has overstated the threat of terrorism. "They > are misleading all Americans in a profound way." I agree again. We are not all going to wake up tomorrow to the risk of a nuclear war; that wasn't true when I was growing up. We live in a time of less, not more, threat to America. Fear is a good political tool though, so the politicians (on both sides) are keeping us afraid. >After a secret service agent inadvertently moved into his path during a > ski mishap in Idaho, Kerry was sent falling into the snow. When asked > a moment later about the incident by a reporter on the ski run, Kerry > said sharply, "I don't fall down," the "son of a bitch knocked me over." >Can't admit to mistakes, can't accept that "things happen". I've listened to two excellent skydivers both say the other caused the problem; they were both at fault. Man, you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. He fell down and blamed someone else for cutting him off, and this is news? What's next? Did Kerry ding someone's paint, then claim that the car was already dented and he shouldn't have to replace the whole fender? Call FOX News! Get Coulter on the typewriter! Get a news crew down tofor Fendergate 2004, cause the polls they are a-slippin and we need some more mud! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #27 October 18, 2004 QuoteI'm 39, a white, unmarried, straight, single woman who lives in liberal California, and has all my life. I have 5 cats, a passion for skydiving and writing, and make my living as a Realtor. I *do* drive a European car, however...a 5 speed black, leather interior Jetta VW. And I am voting for Bush. Anything else? Ciels- Michele Yes. MARRY ME! You're PERFECT! -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiles 0 #28 October 18, 2004 Just finished watching the Passionate Eye- the world according to Bush. Would be interested in hearing comments from others who have watched. Re: did they make this all up?? http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyesunday/ If you're not yet having nightmares about the world being in the hands of a circle of crazed zealots, this should do it. The World According to Bush, a two-hour documentary about the inner-workings of the Bush administration, will frighten even the most hardened Washington-watchers. Fans and critics of the acclaimed Fahrenheit 9/11 will want to see this thoughtful and damning investigation of the U.S. administration. Who are the Bushes? Apparently, they're the "quiet dynasty" of modern America-but in reality, their "dynasty" is one of inconceivable family secrets, painstakingly concealed. The current president's grandfather, Prescott Bush, made his fortune by managing Nazi companies after Hitler seized power. In 1942, his companies were confiscated for collaboration with the enemy. George Bush Sr., president from 1988 to 1992, armed and financed Saddam Hussein. He approved the shipping of germ warfare strains to Iraq, enabling the country to launch a chemical attack against Iranian troops and the Kurdish population. The World According to Bush aims to show how the Bushes, father and son, have not only dined with the devil, but have often invited themselves to his table. The bin Ladens and the Bushes have been longtime business partners, and the family of the future terrorist chief indirectly financed George W. Bush's political career. This unnatural alliance has continued since the Sept. 11 attacks: Bush Sr. is a top official in one of the biggest private investment funds in the USA, Carlyle, a group that has invested heavily in the arms industry. The Bradley tanks and the missiles used in the latest war against Iraq are made by firms controlled by Carlyle…and the bin Ladens. For the latter are Bush's associates within this investment fund. Much of The World According to Bush takes the form of one-on-one interviews and includes Bush's speech writer David Frum; former weapons inspectors Hans Blix and David Kay; presidential adviser Richard Perle; Secretary of State Colin Powell; former CIA director James Woolsey; and former UN secretary-general Javier Perez de Cuellar. The World According to Bush is directed by award-winning French director William Karel (Dark Side of the Moon), and produced by Agnès Vicariot Jean-François Lepetit. It is a Flach Film Production in association with France 2. http://www.iofilm.co.uk/festivals/vancouver/2004/world_according_to_bush.php The documentary has earned praise from a number of quarters for offering the most coherent exposition of the slide into war through high calibre interviews with the likes of author Norman Mailer, weapons inspector Hans Blix, Secretary of State Colin Powell and Pentagon advisor Richard Perle. However, there has been little U.S. media interest. “Either they don’t know or they don’t care,” said Karel, speaking through a interpreter. Karel said that Michael Moore had omitted some important parts in George Bush's story. “There is hardly anything about the religious right and its relationship with the Bush family and also the dangerous liaisons between Israel and the Bush family.” SMiles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites