Rebecca 0 #1 October 14, 2004 Mass grave unearthed in IraqQuoteBAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. forces have exhumed a mass grave in northwestern Iraq and uncovered the remains of hundreds of people. Many of the bodies found at the site near al-Hatra are believed to be the bodies of Kurdish women and children thought slaughtered by the Saddam Hussein regime. This is why he needed to be deposed. Whether or not you agree with the war, or why we went, now that it's done, having nabbed this genocidal evil man is a good thing. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #2 October 14, 2004 Not news though and not a "new" find. We have known about this since GW1 and located the grave site years ago. It's just that they started digging this week. Makes me wonder about the timing.illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #3 October 14, 2004 If this was the real reason why we should have gone over there, then we should have gone after Pol Pot years ago, and we should be in the Sudan right now._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 October 14, 2004 QuoteIf this was the real reason why we should have gone over there, then we should have gone after Pol Pot years ago, and we should be in the Sudan right now. I have come to believe the above statement is or is not true depending on which party is in power at the time"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #5 October 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteIf this was the real reason why we should have gone over there, then we should have gone after Pol Pot years ago, and we should be in the Sudan right now. I have come to believe the above statement is or is not true depending on which party is in power at the time This is the first time a White House administration, via Powell on Sept 9th, has come out and declared that genocide is happening in a nation (Sudan). From my understanding that has never happened before - Bush Sr didn't say it about Iraq and the Clinton administration used the term "acts of genocide." Even with the strongest language ever used on this issue, we are still doing nothing to help the people of the Sudan. IIRC half a million are dead, and a million non-Arabs are now homeless. This is happening NOW! Not decades ago. Newsweek even went so far to claim that after all those black ops were arrested on that flight in Africa in March (see: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/africa/03/10/zimbabwe.plane/) that the US isn't even sending secret black ops over there to help the Sudan._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #6 October 14, 2004 Actually the US fully supported Saddam through the period he massacred these Kurds, you see he was a good friend of the US before he invaded Kuwait. If Saddam stands trial for these crimes, which would only be just, the American policians who endorsed his actions should be held accountable as well. Quote Andrew S. Natsios, Administrator, U.S. Agency for International Development The whole arsenal of methods employed by previous architects of genocide was employed in Saddam's death machine. From 1983 to 1988, during the Iran/Iraq War, chemical attacks by Saddam's army resulted in 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths. This broke a taboo that had existed since World War I and the horrors of trench warfare. From 1987-1988, during Saddam's campaign of terror in the North, an estimated 180,000 Kurds were rounded up and systematically killed. In 1988, five thousand Iraqi-Kurds in 40 villages were killed in a single day, the victims of nerve and mustard gas. The so-called Anfal campaign was part of a broad strategy that intended to destroy the ancestral homes and habitats of Kurds. Over 2,000 mountain villages were razed in Saddam-style pograms. http://www.state.gov/s/wci/rm/36198.htm What the State Department forgets to mention is that they fully supported Saddam in his war against Iran because Iran had successfully ousted its American puppet regime in its revolution. It also now neglects the fact that it supplied these horrible weapons in the first place. The following is an except from an excellen Washington Post article on this subject. QuoteThe story of U.S. involvement with Saddam Hussein in the years before his 1990 attack on Kuwait -- which included large-scale intelligence sharing, supply of cluster bombs through a Chilean front company, and facilitating Iraq's acquisition of chemical and biological precursors -- is a topical example of the underside of U.S. foreign policy. It is a world in which deals can be struck with dictators, human rights violations sometimes overlooked, and accommodations made with arms proliferators, all on the principle that the "enemy of my enemy is my friend." http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52241-2002Dec29?language=printerLife is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 October 14, 2004 QuoteIf this was the real reason why we should have gone over there, then we should have gone after Pol Pot years ago, and we should be in the Sudan right now. We should have at least been told this was the reason. We weren't. So if anyone wants to make the claim that this is the real reason that we went to war, then I ask why did the president lie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #8 October 14, 2004 QuoteIf this was the real reason why we should have gone over there, then we should have gone after Pol Pot years ago, and we should be in the Sudan right now. I didn't say we should have gone in. I don't think we should have, especially considering what it's cost us - I am saying that it's not a bad thing to at least have captured a genocidal dictator along the way. Sigh. So much of the world is in a lot of hurt right now. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites